Bharat Rakshak

KLP Dubey

There are twitter pics of the airport completely destroyed. Time for relief. Looks like the cyclone ripped off the airport building roof, and the ceiling collapsed. Bad disaster. Will take a while to rebuild. http://www.sbdbforums.com/post/vizag-airport-roof-has-been-fell-hudhud-7128621?trail=180

KLP Dubey

Yes he specifically named Tharoor. Rajeev Shukla has already questioned why only Tharoor was named and not other congi. :D Somebody please tweet this to the Qyoon's representative in TVM: "eDo TharoorE choolu piDikkyaDA ! Modi-saar paranjadANu". (abbe tharoor jhadu pakad, Modi-sahib ne ka...

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We would have won medals in women's 5000m and men's 10000m, but were shut out by African imports. We finished 4th in the former and 4th and 5th in the latter, all of them running personal bests. Bahrain and Qatar 'winning' with imports is a joke. LOL, yes. I forgot to write that. Typical pathetic A...

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OK, with a couple of Gs in kabaddi on the final day, India has a good chance of retaining its #6 position in G medals (assuming DPRK and Qatar do not get any more). Already #5 position in overall medals seems fixed.

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KLPD, I'm not from North KL, neither is ST for that matter as far as I know. I think he is Palakkad district and so unfortunately is Prakash Karat (home just 14 kms from mine). :( OK, OK. For someone with roots in Travancore, that is north KL onlee. :) As far as I am concerned, "north KL"...

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People, I can post any number of links demonstrating Tharoor's oiseaulery. This does not change the reality. He can be useful and at least he is courageous enough to come out and praise Modi when it calls for it. Better to have him in the nationalist (not party) tent pissing out, than outside the t...

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There really needs to be an official weighting scheme for the country rankings in AG and OG. Something like G - 1, Silver - 0.5, Bronze - 0.25. Makes no sense just to arrange it by number of G medals.

KLP Dubey

... PS: PM Modi must meet with Dr.K.The man is a treasure house of experience and wisdom,regardless of his role in '71. I am not equal to expressing in words how much I disagree with you on this. Kissinger, insofar as he represents the living epitome of Western strategic thinking, embodies the limi...

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We sent a weak team. Nothing much in tennis, golf and cue sports. The fact that CWG and AG are within 2 months of each other in each edition, also hurts us. We are better off skipping CWG and focussing on AG. Peaking in sports performance is a very involved and timebound process; one cannot just sh...

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UN is very important, and relevant..... indeed :P Anytime Uncle talks about UN or global this or that, I am suspicious and smell a rat. Its mostly for his benefit when he invokes UN. I don't understand this clamoring about Indian elite to be part of this crap. A country which cannot even leave the ...

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A distinct improvement in the tone and verbiage coming out of Dilli. A very clear slap reminding the Brish!t of the East India Company and the whole source of their ill-gotten wealth. The very building of their "Parliament" was no doubt built with looted cash. I am waiting for the day whe...

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We should fly the desi "referendum experts" (Khujliwal, Bhushan, etc) over to Scotland in order to agitate and ensure full participation. Should make sure we get some photos of these dudes in skirts (kilts) too.

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Although "tree structures" of language evolution are popular, we should take it with more than a little grain of salt. Language (at least some spoken words) are likely to be very old. Plus there are a lot of intermingling due to borrowings/back-and-forth migrations etc. So, a beautiful lo...

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Very verbose(~20 pages) rebuttal when all he had to say was "Hock is a Quack!" and agenda driven as he has misquoted him. And give the ref to Hock signing the Modi dis-invite issue to show his agenda. I guess it would hard for a verbose quack to call out another verbose quack. These guys ...

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Ding wrote: All top 25 economies are in the high-income group. China and Malaysia are the only upper-middle income countries getting closer to these ranks. China ranks at 29, Malaysia at 33.

Malaysian innovation...

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Rohit Sir, It is indeed the most annoying aspect of these games...even when Sushil Bhai won...the media seemed more interested in the bronze guy from Wales. Same goes for judo commentary that Neil Adams was a world class player once upon a time but, now I have lost complete respect for him, such sn...

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Rony wrote:Russian/Slavic version of Vedas and OIT ? Digesting vedas, Russian style ?

Ynglism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ynglism#mw-navigation

This is nothing but "New Age" nonsense. There is no Veda or OIT in this link. Just a bunch of Russian loonies.

KLP Dubey

In terms of 'text', Samaveda is little more than a re-ordering of Rcah. Any comment on why an essentially identical text as a prior veda (Rig) is now given the status of a separate veda (i.e. Sama)? Is there is a specific purpose/aim (speculation is fine) for changing the music on the text (going f...

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How is this known, i.e. that it is not the "true" meaning? Who/what knows the true meaning, and who/what certifies that it is true? This is discussed in Mimamsa. Basically, the Veda is eternal, impersonal, and universal, and therefore cannot be referring to "earthly" objects and...

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Has there been any attempt to reorder the sounds of the Veda? I'm assuming that since they are sounds only and have no inherent meaning, order is not relevant? Or is it relevant because they have resonance which in turn generates behaviors among things alive and not? I don't know where the idea aro...

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Clearly the "Vedas" as known to us have not been "found" anywhere else in the world so they cannot be said to have gone out of India. So leaving the Vedas out of an OIT thread seems reasonable. Some things have gone out of India and an exploration of that is about as far as I ha...

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Your contention seems to be that India does not matter as it is irrelevant given the Rig Veda is eternal and was prior to even Earth - so in ur frame why worry about AIT or OIT onlee! Your assertions of "burying head in the sand etc" are not well considered. If you think Mimamsa is someho...

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Guptaji, the "y should I believe this?" is the question that any interested student would have. If one blows those off with "what else r u gonna believe" etc, one loses the student immediately. So that is not an option. The questions have to be respected, and if one does not kno...

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This is one good starting point, though I personally would not feel comfortable with it. One immediate question is "what about the BG?" That is a much more concise and understandable set of advice, if not prescriptions, and relates much better to core beliefs. Most people have heard about...

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I for one, seek to understand the Samhitas and understand "how" does Vedas uphold "Dharma". With some exposure to the works of the Arya Samajis, I am looking for more such works that seek to "interpret" and "understand". Pointers please? Books will also do, y...

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Your contention that Brahman did not exist (as a concept) prior to Vedanta is untenable. You may be considering only the written word as evidence, but the Vedas and the anta were orally transmitted. No scholar/teacher I have talked to has this view. The Vedanta formalised Brahman but that does not ...

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Request from Mongolia is how to explain: 1. What r ur Core Beliefs? 2. What is the hierarchy of literature relevant to ur core beliefs? Brilliant, I await Shri KLPD's response. Epistemology (what you state as "core beliefs"): Fully aligned with Purva Mimamsa (and by extension, Advaita Ved...

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I am having difficulty in understanding the "main thrust" (if any) of your argument: The following is the argumentation of Kumarila: All this argumentation is based on the fact that all cognition is valid unless proven otherwise. That is, any cognition can be overturned in one of two ways ...

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This is beyond (Upa-ni-sat as in near-down-sit). To say Brahman is not a principle of Vaidika is to say democracy is not the principle of the constitution :mrgreen: You are discussing Vedanta, not Veda. When a Vedanti talks about the "veda", he/she is usually referring to the Upanishads. ...

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Why blame only Griffiths ? Nirukta (see sections 11.2-11.5) assigns the following primary meaning to soma, and that is a juice/drink extracted from some herbs. Yaska goes to great lengths to explain this meaning. He does mention a secondary meaning (the moon) but doesn't discuss it. As far as the m...

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This business of associating the moon with fine hooch seems to be universal and timeless, as in "moonshine". Do the Vedic rks (hic!) read like one of kgoan's posts on a Friday night? In Griffiths' translation yes. In Aurobindo's explanation Soma consistently relates to "Ananda" ...

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As "eternal sounds" the Veda possibly represent the "names of things in the Universe" in a form that is accessible to humans - at least as per one interpretation. I am guessing that there could be different Vedas accessible to Martians - transmitted as EM waves of some type. Cer...

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The Veda are the key and the necessary and sufficient condition to achieve Moksha, but they are not a source of all knowledge, as Brahman is beyond even that… – therefore the dictum “na vedam veda” no knowledge in the Veda which I have explained in a previous post. Pulikeshi - You have made a numbe...

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However, as clearly explained in Mimamsa, none of the Vedangas can be considered authoritative on their own as regards Dharma, if their conclusions are found to contradict the Veda. And Adi Shakaracharya said, that Veda can not be accepted as valid if it contradicts with the experience (He quoted t...

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Shiksha (śikṣā): phonetics, phonology and morphophonology (sandhi) Kalpa (kalpa): ritual Vyakarana (vyākaraṇa): grammar Nirukta (nirukta): etymology Chandas (chandas): meter Jyotisha (jyotiṣa): astronomy I think written material is allowed for the study of some of these. There is absolutely no prob...

KLP Dubey

I wish the first thing that happens is for the English media to stop calling the Indian film industry "Bollywood". Even Amitabh Bachchan has criticized this entirely unoriginal ripoff of the Hollywood name. Can't find a better name, dumba$$es ? Similarly the English media morons (especiall...

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matrimc wrote:If they converted out of conviction it should not count against the man.

If a well-to-do Hindu perverts to a non-Vedic religion out of "conviction", then that is far worse than a BPL or JAPL (just above PL) person who is lured to pervert by promises of financial assistance.

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KLP Dubey ji Your argument had been that there is no meaning in vEda. By trying to interpret we are assigning meaning retroactively. Your above post contradicts your own position. Just wanted to point this out so that we can go forward and discuss what you mean by the above post of yours. Who said ...

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I find some of these speculations and assertions unfounded, e.g., "Hinduism is dead unless one gives a simple answer to 'what is in the Vedas?' " This would be like saying, "Science is dead unless one gives a simple answer to 'what are the laws of nature ?'" The pursuit of Dharma...

KLP Dubey

Yes, "Jai Ho" and congratulations are definitely are in order..This is the largest of India's (21 operating power reactors)... Wonderful news indeed. Hope the commissioning of future nuclear installations proceeds in a hassle-free manner. BTW, will you be at the ANS Annual Meeting next we...

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