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by Nilesh Oak
14 Dec 2017 17:51
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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disha wrote:No +72 for me?

:-(

Good stuff. I am waiting for the experiment on the ground - Nala Setu.
by Nilesh Oak
14 Dec 2017 09:13
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3886
Views: 161590

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I would like to explain my thoughts about "histories" versus "narratives of the past" A "history" has dates and some details that the historian has noted. Those details may be what he has witnessed, or has been told by someone, or can be verified by documents and decre...
by Nilesh Oak
14 Dec 2017 04:00
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3886
Views: 161590

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The proper motion was what was keeping the phenomenon from being observed until 11091 BCE? But in effect, that's the same thing - whether you look at the proper motion as "hindering the A/V effect before 11000 BCE" or as "enabling the A/V effect after 11000 BCE." Correct. You ha...
by Nilesh Oak
12 Dec 2017 20:57
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3886
Views: 161590

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Good to see AITwallas taking note of this forum and sending their proxies.
by Nilesh Oak
12 Dec 2017 18:39
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3886
Views: 161590

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

A_Gupta asked this question and it was answered in page 75 of this thread in this post by Nilesh Oak » 24 Jul 2017 06:38. The periodicity of this observation is in the order of 11000 years, not 24 hours. Not exactly, Periavare. The A/V observation, as described by Nilesh Oak, is a *one time* phenom...
by Nilesh Oak
12 Dec 2017 18:30
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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So I guess 13 days from new moon to lunar eclipse has to mean something like 13 days and 22 hours. Thank you A Gupta ji for taking the pain to go through such minute details and thank you for sharing it here. Of course, I did this analysis in 2009, however, decided to not include it in the book sin...
by Nilesh Oak
12 Dec 2017 18:22
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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Near the present era, the length of each half of the lunar cycle varies over a range of about 41 hours, from a minimum of about 13 days and 21+2/3 hours to a maximum of about 15 days and 14+2/3 hours, with an average or median of about 14 days and 18+1/3 hours. So I guess 13 days from new moon to l...
by Nilesh Oak
12 Dec 2017 18:17
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Not totally off topic, Something that is of interest to this thread -- dating of the rocks in the "ramar paalam" between India and Sri Lanka. The rocks are geologically dated to around 7000 BC and moved physically from somewhere else to be placed between the two land masses. Wonder what t...
by Nilesh Oak
12 Dec 2017 18:11
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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No, that is incorrect and a silly counterpoint. They do not have to match a specific day, as long as there is an interval of time where not only these observations but ALL other observations outside of these dates also match. In fact, the set of observations like lunar eclipses are just noise becau...
by Nilesh Oak
12 Dec 2017 17:59
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3886
Views: 161590

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No, that is incorrect and a silly counterpoint. They do not have to match a specific day, as long as there is an interval of time where not only these observations but ALL other observations outside of these dates also match. In fact, the set of observations like lunar eclipses are just noise becau...
by Nilesh Oak
11 Dec 2017 18:21
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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Quote from my unpublished work "To try and locate “vinasana” where the Saraswati dried up we look first at another quote from Macdonell and Keith: " From Macdonell and Keith "Index of Vedic Texts" - “In the enumeration of rivers (evidently from east to west) in Rv. x. 75, 5, Gan...
by Nilesh Oak
09 Dec 2017 19:08
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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A small query:- What date is Nilesh Oak giving to Vedas? Also is he saying Vedas, Ramayan, Mahabharat, refers to events pre Harappa? My talk here covers the gist of it. The dating of specific Mandalas of Rigveda based on absolute chronology of Mahabharata & Ramayana (6th millennium BCE & 13...
by Nilesh Oak
08 Dec 2017 07:49
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3886
Views: 161590

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Paper 11 on this page attempts to explain the Saptarishi cycle: http://www.tifr.res.in/~vahia/papers.html Here is my correspondence with Prof. Vahia in 2010, for what it might be worth. -- I wrote.. Prof. Vahia, I read your paper on 'Saptarshi's visit to different nakshatras'. I also believed (and ...
by Nilesh Oak
08 Dec 2017 07:35
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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ramana wrote:
Nilesh Oak wrote:I will do it for you.



Let us know if Waldies is still there!

So who all are the luminaries going to be there and is there a brochure?

Also please have the talks all YouTube so that we can also see them.

Thanks.

http://swadeshiindology.com/si-3/schedule/
by Nilesh Oak
07 Dec 2017 15:53
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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UlanBatori wrote:I will scratch "Ulan Batori slept hiyar" on one of the desks.

I will do it for you.
by Nilesh Oak
07 Dec 2017 14:09
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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A different take on Arundhati-Vasishta and other observations in the Mahabharata: http://insa.nic.in/writereaddata/UpLoadedFiles/IJHS/Vol41_1_1_RNIyengar.pdf (PDF file) Iyengar, R. N. (2006). Some Celestial Observations Associated with Krsna-Lore. Indian Journal of History of Science, 41(1), 1. A d...
by Nilesh Oak
05 Dec 2017 03:00
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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Prem Kumar wrote:Shiv: saw your post from the previous page. Are you by any chance presenting a paper in the Swadeshi Indology conference in Chennai next month?

Yes and so is yours truly and so is 'Murugan'.
by Nilesh Oak
04 Dec 2017 19:33
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3886
Views: 161590

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So Saraswati did not flow through the paleochannel through which Ghaghar/Hakra now flows, rather it was Sutlej?! Wow! This is going to negate a lot of writings/theories floated in the last 20 years or so. So the question is where did mighty Saraswati river flow, if not in the Ghaghar/Hakra paleocha...
by Nilesh Oak
12 Nov 2017 23:25
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/11/majority-of-scientists-now-agree-that-humans-came-to-the-americas-by-boat/ For decades, students were taught that the first people in the Americas were a group called the Clovis who walked over the Bering land bridge about 13,500 years ago. "In a dramati...
by Nilesh Oak
06 Nov 2017 16:46
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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My informal chat/interview with Vastu-shastra team with deep interests in connections of Vastu-shastra with calendars and astronomy

https://youtu.be/iMV3FEiCjCI
by Nilesh Oak
17 Oct 2017 01:25
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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Gee! You'd think this dhaga had been taken over by Mullah KumbhaKarna. Here's something to wake ppl up: Prof. Narahari Achar's videos on how MBW ****MUST** have happened in 3067 BCE. I note that there is no published paper, just a lot of yak-yak and Majik Videos. :) :lol: Prof. Achar has published ...
by Nilesh Oak
10 Oct 2017 23:11
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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BTW.... This was indeed the reason AV observation - Arundhati walking ahead of Vasishtha is the unique instance (only during 11091 BCE - 4508 BCE) of antiquity. This is because as one goes backward, in antiquity, through another round of precession of earth's axis, Arundhati would not have appeared...
by Nilesh Oak
10 Oct 2017 18:46
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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BTW.... Also: Alcor is moving -16.04 ± 0.11 miliarcseconds/year towards the north and 120.21 ± 0.13 miliarcseconds/year east if we saw them in the horizon. Mizar is moving -25.97 ± 1.40 miliarcseconds/year towards the north and 119.01 ± 1.71 miliarcseconds/year east if we saw them in the horizon. ht...
by Nilesh Oak
10 Oct 2017 18:40
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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The reference to the arundhati and vasishta stars was an observations in the Mahabharata did not involve any calculations-- just the relative positions of the stars. How does that involve any astronomical calculations? At a minimum, it requires knowing which stars Arundhati and Vasishta refer to. T...
by Nilesh Oak
10 Oct 2017 06:14
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Nilesh If you have 30+ projects you are like DRDO. Need to focus or frame out the smaller projects to a band of followers. Yes to both. In first case, me learning new craft.. so uphill. Do let me know if you know a sharp and smart experienced scriptwriter who is very much indic at his/her heart and...
by Nilesh Oak
09 Oct 2017 19:12
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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The observations of the moon or planets being in various nakshatras also do not involve any calculations. Plus observations like "five planets were seen lined up in the late evening sky." Or observations of eclipses. Or things like "Bhima and Arjuna wielding their weapons seemed like...
by Nilesh Oak
09 Oct 2017 16:03
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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a_gupta: Further, in some cases, one had to understand just how the observation was made. One may have to reproduce a calculation in the way it was originally made, not how one might do it today. The reference to the arundhati and vasishta stars was an observations in the Mahabharata did not involv...
by Nilesh Oak
08 Oct 2017 21:28
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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Dennis Rawlins responded.... Pity. We'll need to find/develop desi expertise. Desi expertise is not a problem. Many (from Indic researchers to layperson) have tested and validating the findings of my books (some of them have done it using multiple different software or manual mathematical calculati...
by Nilesh Oak
08 Oct 2017 20:57
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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DIO: Sadly, no one at DIO is expert on Indian astronomy. But good luck in finding such and thanks for your interest. How is this "Indian astronomy"?? Isn't the whole point that the astronomical observations are supported by modern "western astronomy"? Maybe these findings should...
by Nilesh Oak
06 Oct 2017 15:22
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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While on the topic of fake history, take a look at the work of Dennis Rawlins, debunker. http://www.dioi.org/hoa.htm Some may find this (around the discovery of Neptune) to be interesting: http://www.dioi.org/kn/neptune/index.htm Excellent. When time permits, I am considering sending my works to De...
by Nilesh Oak
04 Oct 2017 17:31
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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While on the topic of fake history, take a look at the work of Dennis Rawlins, debunker. http://www.dioi.org/hoa.htm Some may find this (around the discovery of Neptune) to be interesting: http://www.dioi.org/kn/neptune/index.htm Excellent. When time permits, I am considering sending my works to De...
by Nilesh Oak
03 Oct 2017 23:35
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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This guy make reference to Sundar Kand mentioning species of Elephants which have been extincts for long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV7OBuLLmj0&t=512s It is true that 'Gomphothere' existed for millions of years. It is also true that they existed on earth, including south and southeast asia...
by Nilesh Oak
03 Oct 2017 16:44
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Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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A people who think that their history is their identity - most of Europe; a people who think that their belief is their identity - most of the Abrahamic three; a people who thought that what they did, not what they believed or what their history was, was their identity - the ancient Hindu. That is ...
by Nilesh Oak
23 Sep 2017 01:44
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Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Excellent article. Thanks for posting this. Good points in the article. One reason for objecting to 'Rana won Haldighati' is on similar lines. Do correct and fix, analyse and educate but there is no need for exaggerated attempts to justify earlier knowledge. For Rana it should focus on how he still...
by Nilesh Oak
22 Sep 2017 23:35
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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An historic novel for period 1766 CE that also talks of Indrajit and Ramayana and refers to timeline of 13th millennium BCE

The Land of Seekers by Triveen Nair

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075SX53BN/re ... iveen+Nair
by Nilesh Oak
17 Sep 2017 21:26
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Nilesh let me point out something that bugs me in this entire debate. Many of us desi "science types" for whom English is a layer of language added on top of our mother tongue often do not see the manner in which western academia use a web of rhetorical constricts and straw men to obfusca...
by Nilesh Oak
16 Sep 2017 23:23
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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It is interesting to note the scare these 'nakshatras' are causing in the AIT and AMT(eh?) camp. I am lovin it. Absolutely. Today you are the trailblazer. At best people can claim these references were auto-inserted back into MB by our ancestors. Well, guess what you just proved how sophisticated t...
by Nilesh Oak
16 Sep 2017 22:25
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Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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UlanBatori wrote:Calling Nileshji. APB put out by organizers of u-no-what

working through it. will send soon.
by Nilesh Oak
16 Sep 2017 18:12
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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^ As I was writing my paper, I tried to place AIT via 5 elements of a scientific theory. Anyone interested may try it by asking questions... (1) Siddhanta - statement of a theory (2) Pratyaksha - objective testing (3) Pramana- explanation/description (4) Anumnana - inference/predictions (5) Agama - ...
by Nilesh Oak
16 Sep 2017 18:08
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 161590

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....... and this is the same trend seen in archaeology as well. There is NO DRAMATIC CHANGE in Indus Valley material culture. Just like there is no dramatic change in horse bones. Horse bones were rare before 1500 BCE. They continue to be rare after that date. Pottery patterns before & after th...

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