Bharat Rakshak

John

Booster was at least today to carry the missile to required altitude and speed (as if mimicking a fighter plane) and then let go as a plane will let go sfdr. On plane do we need a booster? From ramjet to work is there a high initial velocity? Don’t know Yes there still needs to be booster (smaller ...

John

^ Yes the author jumps to the conclusion and looks like other media picked it up as the displacement when in reality there was no such mention by RFI. I am leaning towards a considerably smaller vessel we will see what design Cochin is using.

John

titash wrote:I recall the RFI asking for a 2000-2500 ton vessel with PDMS

I can no longer find the RFI but I recall the displacement just said " As per design" but I believe some of designs that were rumored to be offered were around 2500 tons which lead to confusion.

John

There are need to be lot of improvements to get that level but given that these are not expensive vessels and Kamorata which are just as modern (more expensive) having complement of 190 while displacing around 3k tons. I just don't see this being even half that size.

John

mody wrote:For 2,000-2,500 ton ship, it would be awesome

Have we got information to indicate it's tonnage will be 2000 tons the RFI stated a crew of 80 which indicates a ship with displacement of around 1000 tons (which would place it between Veer and Kora class).

John

https://www.edrmagazine.eu/naval-launch-customer-for-mbdas-vl-mica-ng “The main evolution regards a new dual-pulse rocket motor developed by Roxel that, combined with a reduction in the volume of the electronic components inside the missile to enable it to carry more propellant, will deliver an inc...

John

No one is advocating buying Buyan,etc. But look at the concepts and weaponry package . Buyan did the biz. in Syria from the Caspian Sea! What diff. did the vessel's speed have on the outcome? Firing cruise missiles at bunch of jihadis armed with ak47 is not an achievement and unless we plan on adve...

John

2000t? Russian corvettes of around 1000t like Buyan with their 2500km Kalibir missiles carry much more armament than the specs. given for our new vessels. There's a superb Ru design with a flight deck for a Kamov sized ASW helo,with the hangar below deck for around 2K t. Once again there is no plan...

John

As per Wiki only 24 Sprut tanks have been inducted by Russians. Likely a token number. The usual Russian tactic of getting us to pay for a half developed platform and resolve underlying issues is at play. There were some issues with orginal sprut and they moved onto sprut-sdm1 which is based on bmd...

John

105 mm gun for 37 ton tank seems to be but underarmed why not go with mixture of 40 mm gun with anti tank missiles.

John

Not suprised they willing to swallow this and move on because they sense a bigger opportunity at land grab elsewhere. As I been saying I expect China to turn its attention on Russia they realize Putin is venerable in post Trump era.

John

^ Replied for that in the Russian thread.

John

Russia and China have expanded their strategic missile defense partnership with the former agreeing to help the latter in developing/upgrading a national strategic missile early warning system with likely some strong partnership on this front expected going forward. As far as strategic BMD is conce...

John

Paramount has Mbombe 8 which is in same class as Kestral may be that caused the confusion

John

Philip please stick to topic currently there is no new Kilo offered by Russia, the deal is 3 existing Russian subs + 3 upgrades of our Subs for 2 billion. There is reason why they are offering older subs because newer subs will definitely cost in upwards of 500+ mill given cost of commodities and ef...

John

https://twitter.com/delhidefence/status/1356847491530940419?s=20 ---> Here is the Ku Band Active RF seeker. The eyes of the Akash-NG missile. From RCI at #AeroIndia2021. https://twitter.com/TheWolfpackIN/status/1356901686799917056?s=20 ---> Just look at that target velocities: "up to 2300 m/s&...

John

Reg.Kilo costs today,last yr. a quick-fix interim solution to our declining and aging sub inventory was offered by Ru. 3+3 refurbished and new Kilo 636.3 ,all to the latest variant for just $1.8 to 2 B.This works out to an average cost of just $300- 350M a pop. That is incorrect it was upgrade of o...

John

the S400 is described as a system of systems that can be continually upgraded / modified etc , and part reason of India's interest . Indeed the software and processing capability including the ability to discriminate decoys etc are significant.,.. some details look classified as with all systems. S...

John

Barak-8, on ships, has a minimum engagement distance of 500m. So, I don't believe Akash-NG fills a gap in coverage. It might just be a replacement of Akash-1/1S, while being a cheaper option of MRSAM with a similar engagement envelope. It’s not about the minimum range it is about a layered air defe...

John

mody wrote:Akash NG, is supposed to be 70-80 Kms. It is our equivalent to the Barak-8 based MRSAM.
Will cost less than half as per some online speculation.

I believe Akash NG is intended to fill the gap between Akash (10-25km) and Barak-8 (intended for targets 50-100 km).

John

Brahmos A can be optimized significantly. But I have been hearing about brahmos mini and NG for so long that I have given up hope. This is what happens when you don't have design autonomy. I have much more hope on LFRJ-based solution. ??? Brahmos-NG was always advertised to be ready for testing onl...

John

la.khan wrote:For LCA Mk2, I thought Brahmos was a given. Can Brahmos, as it exists today launched from a Su30MKI, be ported over to LCA Mk2?

Brahmos can only be air launched by modified Su-30mki.

John

So the ramjet is gone ? Been calling this for a while, the Ramjet taken and improved up on from its predecessor SA-6 has far too many limitations on speed and range it is good we switched from it. FYI the Russian Buk which has done similar approach had its range limited to 30-40 km due to obsolete ...

John

During Gulf war Missouri (iirc) engaged Iraqi positions with her main gun but also I believe she was targeted by Iraqi Silkworm missile luckily a British destroyer engaged those missiles. This goes to show vulnerability to Ashm more than 30 yrs ago against a neutralized opponent.

John

Hiting land based targets with a ship is extremely dangerous as it allows coastal batteries to attack the ship and much harder to detect Ashm launched from land & you have shorter reaction time as well. With advent of suicide drones that threat has only increased and heck even houthis and Hizb. ...

John

Why are these 127mm guns so expensive? What about alternatives? About ~$50 million per gun. Not that expensive. I suppose these were chosen for future longer range 'smart rounds' that would increase the effectiveness of the gun in the air defense role. Thats quite a bit of $$ given that Barak-8 cos...

John

^ We could have had that nearly a decade ago with Skyshield but blacklisting killed that program which could replaced Bofors 40mm and Ak-630 guns. The Skyshield system also supported integration of SAM.

John

Best way to counter uav swarm would be to utilize medium caliber gun (40 mm) with air burst.

John

I would much rather go for smaller caliber SRGM and use the $$ and space saved be used for another Barak-8 module. Perhaps ship-to-shore bombardment is emerging as a priority based on recent evacuation experiences in Yemen, etc. Likewise ship-to-shore bombardment is a literal expression of gunboat ...

John

https://twitter.com/strategic_front/status/1346784082730995712?s=20 ---> US Navy would be providing three 127mm medium caliber guns from its own inventory to urgently equip warships of the Indian Navy as part of a Rs 3,800 crore deal. I would much rather go for smaller caliber SRGM and use the $$ a...

John

When I asked a Russian interlocutor why Moscow isn’t more supportive of its ally(Armenia), they responded in even starker terms: “NATO isn’t supposed to support Turkey’s military adventures in foreign lands, be it northern Syria or Libya, right? So, why should Russia support Armenian military adven...

John

chola wrote:^^^ What?! When the hell did this happen?

It didn’t happen, please let’s not derail the thread with Cold War garbage that is backfire, only combat sortie it ever flew against a competent opponent it got shot down (Georgia knocked down a recon version with outdated SAM),

John

India lost an opportunity to go inside Armenia militarily and understand turkeys firepower. Added later: Armenia seems to have suffered for NATOs involvement with turkeys war in Syria. In plain words, Armenia will not receive security guarantees from Russia until NATO/Americans withdraw support to ...

John

^^^ Yes, the fear is we would get the same batch that Algeria had returned because the Algerians found that the parts in them were severely old and worn: http://idrw.org/careful-india-mig-29-offered-by-russia-might-be-of-inferior-quality/ Russia is mainly interested in dumping mothballed/existing i...

John

trump is a master at the strategy of creating chaos and benefiting from it. I highly doubt Trump is master of anything, his strategy is focused on benefiting him financially, politically or to help out his boss ( Putin). He wanted to keep a amicable relationship with Xi remember all the comments do...

John

We need Xi or Xi like character in China. More they get over confidence of their power, more trouble they will create. And China creating trouble is what we want. One of the biggest suprises with China in past four years is they didn't take advantage of Trump and vaccum he left in lack of global le...

John

No need to buy any Kilos from Russia as they are asking $1.8 Billion for 6 of them. They are essentially asking $300 Million for modernizing and supplying 30 + year old rust buckets. Did i forget to mention that out of those 6, 3 are our own Kilo's!!! Now if they want to supply totally new Kilos wi...

John

Pakis used a lot of drones on 27 feb and will try and attack our Sam's with drones, we would need something to defend SAM Ak 630 type defenses to take out drones and PGMs targeting the Sam's Skyshield with AHEAD ammunition would have been ideal but it is shame the whole venture feel apart due to bl...

John

I mentioned it before I have given up on HAL ever building LCA in large number till HAL is booted out and the production is moved over more competent player. Don't expect LCA production ever come close to timelines no matter how many lines are created and how many orders are placed.

John

I have no love for Russians. Even with upgrades, S-300PM has a lot of limitations which are hard to remove for a 35 years old system. It maybe good against planes and cruise missiles but simply has nothing to offer against small drones. TOR has been a failure even in Georgia and Ukraine(?). Russian...

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