Bharat Rakshak

John

ramana: All in all, a good time to get old. The deterrence calculations with these HGVs etc are so messed-up compared to those with slow, predictable strategic bombers and ballistic missiles. I guess the first nuke-armed sub-launched cruise missile really ushered in the era of total instability, bu...

John

Hindsight is 20/20 back when P-8 was being considered A319 showed a lot of promise and P-8 was also highly risky (no orders, low altitude performance, lower endurance compared P-3, lower visibility compared to P-3, cost) Not just hindsight. Boeing had a development contract awarded from the USN bac...

John

This could have been the only worthwhile competitor to the P-8. I don't know if it was seriously considered. The A319 MPA is vapourware. Not a single prototype is flying even today. Hindsight is 20/20 back when P-8 was being considered A319 showed a lot of promise and P-8 was also highly risky (no ...

John

Russia can't afford T14 Armata https://twitter.com/YusufDFI/status/1025194662011650048?s=19 So what ? India will help them. Remember USMC scrapped EH 101 as it was too expensive for USA. But it is not too expensive for India for its politicians Off topic but Russia is banking on China to fund if th...

John

tsarkar wrote:
John wrote:I am only seeing one Ak-630? Do a need a better resolution to confirm it, your thoughts?

All four there, the pollution haze combined with paint scheme blurring the outlines.

Oh alright thanks for confirming.

John

tsarkar wrote:A photo I took of Kolkata class destroyer with Seaking. Probably the first published photo with Seaking Mk42B onboard https://flic.kr/p/Lae2Ye

I am only seeing one Ak-630? Do a need a better resolution to confirm it, your thoughts?

John

They had nearly 30 goddam years since the first test landing on the Kuznetsov to develop a better undercarriage and navalize the aircraft. There is a high possibility that what we are seeing now is intrinsic to the design. It won’t be getting any better. That is the reason for the RFI. As much I lo...

John

Instead of even thinking of Brahmos as a AAM how about Barak & Barak 8 as AAMs for HHV targets ? Barak won't have any better range than even Derby even Land based Derby have longer SAM range than Barak. IMO air launched Barak-8 will essentially be similar to Derby ER, which is essentially an en...

John

sell the 29Ks to the iaf and buy rafales. Pay dassault to do some folding wings, or a removable part in the outer wing. :-( Boeing is the only one that offered to certify their AC for STOBAR where as Dassault has never come out and said that and any modifications and certification for STOBAR will r...

John

SAM have much higher terminal speed than Brahmos is Mach2-2.5 where Barak-8 was close to Mach4-5 during tests . Brahmos can’t pull high Gs but it’s more than maneuverable to take out Tankers and larger ACs. However I am afraid it’s not designed for that purpose because it would need datalink and mi...

John

Not just cost, a SAM is usually slower and more maneuverable than a missile like brahmos. Brahmos will bleed too much energy in trying to strike a nimble fighter jet(dunno how nimble tankers or awacs are) which means not as effective as a SAM. SAM have much higher terminal speed than Brahmos is Mac...

John

The tracked chassis is armoured and protected from NBC radiation. The range of the vehicle is 500 km and it can cross water bodies at 6 km/h. Although it was a formidable weapon during the 70s & 80s, the time has come to replace this with something more potent like the Pantsir M. Rakesh, IA is ...

John

Good points and to add it for Fleet Air defense, powerful radar is not important due to presence of naval search radars in friendly vessels including Vikramaditya which has the monster Podberezovik radar. No matter how big or powerful the radar, it will suffer from LOS issues. Low flying fighters a...

John

Chola, Su-33 suffered from countless structural and mechanical issues thru it's lifetime even from land they didn't fly many sorties and considered to be maintenance nightmare. I get it you want Su30mki naval edition but move on its not going to happen and let's focus on current candidates.

John

This discussion about navalising the MKI - it won't work. it needs too much money and too much time for it to ever get approval. For the decision makers, its a safer and easier bet to just buy a foreign fighter and let the navy figure out how to use 2-3 different fighter types on as many carriers. ...

John

Aside from size and handling on a cramped deck, we know the Flanker is superior to the Fulcrum in every way on land once in the air . With CATOBAR the disadvantages with weight goes away. Debatable. The Fulcrum has similar maneuverability to the Flanker and a higher T:W ratio. Both have HMS+R-73 co...

John

John, did they test the MiG-29 for carrier ops in the 80s? Did they determine that the stress on the airframe was too much for the MiG-29 to deal with? If so, was that info shared with the Indian Navy? If not, we got sold a lemon no? If we did, why on earth did we buy them in the first place? Cain-...

John

I do not know about the Flanker, but the MiG-29K was never designed to be a naval fighter. See this link ---> https://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7181&p=2286104#p2286104 I doubt testing this extensive was done on the MiG-29K. And if it was, we got sold a lemon! Su-33 and M...

John

China bet heavily on Flankers too late to switch to Mig-29k which they don't even operate and their end game is move to catapults which negates the poor payload capacity of Flankers operating from Stobar but doesn't solve maintenance challenges ( not a big deal for China). Naval Su-30mki is a bad id...

John

Blame the negotiating team which should have stuck to it's guns and insisted on the flanker, which was a much better platform? Flanker operating from STOBAR is inferior to Mig-29k even Chinese admiral when on to complaint about that, it simply cannot carry much payload and fuel and launch safely. A...

John

Russia’s newest Kalibr cruise missile-capable corvettes may be offered to China & India – govt

Borisov said on Monday that Russia's Project 22800 corvettes codenamed Karakurt are likely to be supplied to India, Vietnam, China and other countries of the Asia-Pacific Region

John

Karan M wrote:India is in talks for NASAMS 2 not mere NASAMS.
NASAMS 2 for India will likely features advanced variants of AMRAAM and ESSM variants e.g. AMRAAM ER which is basically an ESSM with AMRAAM homing.

I see but ESSM is in same class as barak-8 when there is MR-SAM what is need for this?

John

^ if you need Aim-120 for evaluation you can get 2nd hand missiles from one of its many users. Why the constant obsession to turn astra into SRSAM when there is already QRSAM? It's not an obsession. Just an observation as Astra has met all objectives of the test program but qrsam will require some d...

John

Pratyush wrote:Oh boy the mod turns every purchase into a circus. We have completed astra. With little effort it can be turned into a short range SAM. But we are going to buy an American system.

Why the constant obsession to turn astra into SRSAM when there is already QRSAM?

John

abhik wrote:NASAMS news from last year (which i thought was fake news/lifafa)
Delhi may soon get US aerial defence formula against missile threats

NASAMS seems to be taking QRSAM place? Not sure why it's needed when there is MR-SAM, atleast for latter it offers a cheaper and more mobile alternative.

John

Other problem with Kamorta is that despite the expense it is a one trick pony - ASW only. Of course, that is the way it was designed but it means that its main offensive weapon is its ASW helicopter which as of now is the aging Sea King. The ship won't reach its full potential till we get the Seaha...

John

Our platforms are late and few but very state of the art. US, UK, Russian & Chinese dont have an active homing LRSAM. All their long range SAMs are SARH. Only UK/France/Italy have comparable but expensive Aster. Other than the Russians and possibly Chinese, none have supersonic land attack miss...

John

Till then, we have to have a stop gap using imports. Of all the importable systems, S-400 is one of the most capable, least expensive and least strings attached. Even DRDO supports this acquisition. Least expensive for what purpose? MR SAM is far cheaper alternative for mid to long range SAM and Cr...

John

^ P-28 are supposed to be armed with Barak-1 but then decision was made to wait for Maitri/VL-MICA and now SR-SAM. P-17A actual costs can only be quantified after the first one is built.Going by every warship built by our yards, it will be several times more than originally estimated. Same can be sa...

John

Cost, cost, cost.The smaller Talwar FFGs cost less , our own official stats, allowing larger number of FFGs.Though smaller, the latest avatar of the Talwars pack considerable punch, BMos, two SAM systems- one anti-missile/gatlings, and an assortment of ASW systems similar to what's on the P-17s. Th...

John

That is a very tough benchmark you are setting for any air defense system. The world has to figure out new physics to detect cruise missiles flying at tree top levels. Doesn't matter if it is a desi system, Russian system or Western system. Wonder why the US didn't send in fighter jets instead? S-...

John

The advantage of buying more Krivaks was the win-win factor: - We get new frigates quickly - We get new frigates which are already familiar to IN and doing well. - Russia gets to offload partially built up ships which could not be completed due to Ukrainian components What have we done here? No one...

John

^ It makes no sense to build the last 2 frigates locally it seems the plan is being pressed up on to the navy by MOD as a way to appease Russia and push made in India.

John

“S-400’s recent performance in Syria showed how effective it can be in the desert and on various types of landscapes, which led to a queue of countries with similar weather conditions namely the Persian Gulf states that wish to acquire it,” says the expert. What exactly did Russia S-400 do Syria ot...

John

^ Klub is too heavy and long as well, it weights from 1.6 to 2.2 Tons depending on the version and i believe the inclined version is also canisterized which adds more weight. Which is far more than Uran, If a vessel can fit Klub it can likely handle Brahmos. Yes there was RFI and i believe DRDO is w...

John

^^ Vietnam is friendly country for both India and Russia, still Russia is not giving clearance. Brahmos competes with Yakhont so most countries friendly with both nations will go for latter since it’s cheaper price and comes with Russian incentives. For example Russia offered Bastion (Yakhont based...

John

I noted a while back with lack of any Uran ship based missiles being ordered to replace the ones nearing end of life we are likely to replace the system with Brahmos or another alternative in existing ships. As for barak-8 unless El/M-2238 is mounted I don't see it being fitted on Delhi. Shivalik in...

John

I recall the Shivalik getting delayed as a result of Obama having a review of all American defence relations when he came to power. And it's engines being with held by Americans. That I guess rules out the lm 2500. It was delayed by a couple months because of that and it was GE fault for not gettin...

John

Russia likely supplied that tech under the table but later on claimed China reverse engineered. Don't be surprised if S-400 roll out the Chinese factories at fraction of a cost before Russia finishes all deliveries of S-400 to India.

John

^ Source for this last I read it was regiments not batteries. Even the recent delivery news was for first of 6 regiment being successful delivered to China.

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