Bharat Rakshak

John

The Q is v.valid given the high cost of CG assets and manpower. Rescuing fishermen, merchantmen in distress, seizing sneaky firang trawlers, smugglers,etc., are needed ,but in wartime,what will the CG do to come to the aid of the party? Sukanya class has a chopper deck. May be a Brahmos shore based...

John

Brahmos seem to hit targets like we see of Tomahawk. I don't see why we cannot put the same seeker on Nirbhay and deploy it. Brahmos tests are probably made public, because the Russians would know about any tests. Nirbhay can be tested in Rajasthan, without making it public. Current problem with Ni...

John

Are you privy to these details? If so, please share. Any oldie would care to reply? I don't respond well to misplaced sarcasm. He probably had a long day. We just don't have enough details and specs are unbelievable even for air launched missile because of its 108 Kg warhead, I wouldn't speculate o...

John

^ Yes another thing I find interesting is Az. seems to be not employing any Close air support even using drones most often attacking by sending in some T-90 at enemy positions backed by some APCs and as a result unable to hold down any position in counter attacks. Which leads to my theory drones are...

John

In lot of drone videos we don’t see the result of the hit in fact if you slow down some of videos you can clearly see the tank hits didn’t do any damage. In fact in one video they hit two tanks parked by each other, after first tank is hit they show another video where they hit 2nd tank and first ta...

John

Apart from success with drones. Azerbaijan forces have been doing poorly on the ground haven’t been able to capture anything significant and seem to have lost more than dozen T-72/T-90/BTR/BMP to Armenian forces ( why the heck do you abandon perfectly intact tanks is beyond my comprehension) . Seem ...

John

Vips wrote:Per a AV report Notam issued for Oct 16 to Oct 17. Pralay likely to be tested.

Not sure the need for Pralay when there is Shaurya, much rather focus the effort on Prahar which will serve our need for a cheap tactical ballistic missile.

John

I do laugh at 140kg weight quoted for the missile in wiki which is being used by the news media.

John

People's desire to immediately see SMART on all Indian frontline Warships as option that could just be dropped into the installed Brahmos launcher is what is driving this Brahmoization of SMART. Shaurya derived missile would mean modification, testing, cost & delay. There is no such thing Brahm...

John

It is no coincidence SMART is very similar to Brahmos in size, it will be carried in existing L&T UVLS launchers which will help vary the load out for 16 cells we have on P-15A/B. It will make it very hard for SSKs to lob AshM when there is airborne assets, the location of launch can be pinpoint...

John

kvraghav wrote:We are not supplying anything to Azeris and there is no public record for the same.

Supposedly signed a deal to supply body armor from MKU

https://azeridefence.com/hindistan-azər ... xrac-edib/

John

We been supplying arms to Azerbaijan as well

https://twitter.com/kabirtaneja/status/ ... 18340?s=21

Two main things I see from this conflict
- Need to have cheap and easy way to defeat loitering UAVs.
- Tanks and APC need a APS to operate effectively in current battlefield

John

Armenians have taken out and captured a couple of T-90s. Those videos are too gruesome but here is another T-90 (or T-72) hit.

https://youtu.be/utD6tYeduEg

John

The exhausts look modified upwards in the LSP Sir, It seems the new exhaust setup was tested before on the TD-4 but we didnt notice it as a clear side view was not available https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ee00Qm2UYAgXhDP?format=jpg&name=medium I think someone spotted it and we have discussed it. B...

John

sanjaykumar wrote:No Cold War weapon including ABM missiles accelerate this fast. There is clearly a two stage burn. If the second is a scram jet, this is almost science fiction. However it may be a secondary booster rocket.

That’s the A-235? Which is modernized version of A-135.

John

Sprut-SD isn’t even being purchased by Russia due to issues such as oil leak why are we even considering it?

John

This black and white pattern is used for experimental launches, not production batches. A news report in 2019 mentioned that Russia would develop a 800 km ranged Oniks. So this Brahmos can't be 800 km atleast. Started from 290, then 400, now claims of 500-600. I have no idea what to make of it. BTW...

John

Any word on Prahaar? Can we push to induct it rather than wait for Pranash.

John

The Indra Lanza is a L band 3D radar https://www.indracompany.com/sites/default/files/lanza3d_radar_v19_0.pdf Tata is providing 23 sets to the IN in partnership with Indra over a 10 year span. This has to be the L band set on the P17A and possibly the P15B hulls. Note too that Terma SSR radars will...

John

Looks like the AD guns contract has been cancelled too ... Carbines, Anti Air Systems for Indian Army to be made in India after MoD cancels import The Russians had protested the AD Gun Purchase. Shows their influence in our procurement system. In this case I think it hurt them we are likely to go f...

John

tsarkar, P-17s use El/m-2238 but Fregat main radar is E band IIRC.

John

No that radar doesn’t resemble it and is also too big to be even be large variant of El/M-2238. Plus MF-STAR already does S band why do we another one.

John

If I recall it was supposed to be joint development for naval radar using LTR-25 not sure what end product will end up resembling.

John

It more resembles SMART-L the design could simply be a place holder.

John

Karan M wrote:
Whats the rear radar? Looks like a new variant of a DRDO radar.

Few have said it is naval version of LTR-25 radar. Waiting for confirmation.

John

Once again this is not the Indian aviation thread it is Vikrant news and discussion thread please stick to the topic.

There is Naval aviation for any discussions on F-35 and catapults please use naval aviation thread

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John

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1334305/china-xi-jinping-step-down-coronavirus-pandemic-covid19-inquiry-who-australia-brexit-spt China bombshell: Xi Jinping tipped to STEP DOWN from presidency Well his family has been grabbing up condos in NY, Toronto and London so they already made off with a...

John

Kamortas were supposed to have Maitri SAM. The attractive proposition behind this was its compatibility with Revathi radar complex. I cannot say why Maitri did not proceed, but the kinetic element is essentially a MICA missile (expensive). The only shortcut I can see in current circumstances is to ...

John

I believe they will replace the second Ak-630 similar to Barak-1 arrangement in Delhi. As for why Barak-1 have not been fitted, they need to be purchased currently Kamorta are in similar limbo and are waiting for SRSAM. The plan is to purchase a stop gap to address that shortfall first. Do you know...

John

P-15a and P-15b are supposed to have 24-32 SRSAM ( depending on what we go with: VL MICA, CAMM, DRDO SR SAM, improved Barak) if I recall correctly not sure what is happening with that procurement. I don’t believe P-17A have room to be fitted with it. Where is the space on the P-15A/B for another VL...

John

The Kh-35 Uran is approx. 600kg whereas the BrahMos is a 3000kg missile. The weight & volume penalties of 8 BrahMos missiles is larger than that for 16 Urans. The performance and use case scenarios are very different for the two. But a hi/lo mix is always desirable - why would you waste a BrahM...

John

In Indian Navy 16 ASM/SSM is Destroyer 8 ASM/SSM is Frigates Size doesn't matter But I have always felt that the No of SAMs is less that too without any point-defense missile, with only 32 Barak-8 taking the roll of both LR SAM and point-defense missile It is size and role but P-17 have grown signi...

John

Vips wrote:Indeed there was a report that india may buy 45 Spruts as an emergency measure and DRDO/L&T will build a 'indigenous' light tank based on the K9 chasis and a Belgian gun.(indigenous - yeah sure)

Didn’t Russia abandon purchase of Sprut because they caught fire in a parade.

John

If you follow some of discussions within China it is interesting lot of anger towards the government as some even accuse them of taking bribes from Trump and doing this. As this whole endeavor hurts Chinese tech companies and further cements the domination of US tech giants which were scared (or sha...

John

Those tombs look to be old definitely not from recent clashes

John

^^ Interesting article. Always amazes me how the Chinese keep copying and Russia keeps selling them new stuff to copy. :-? The Russians are not fools, this is most likely license manufacturing which in a closed H&D CCP environment where achievements are to be shown it is declared as reverse eng...

John

Our Delhi Class Destroyer Launch was held up due to negotiations of GE LM2500 engines by a few months. Need I say anything about US Pressure on ISRO Cryogenic engine programme ? The Shivalik Frigate not Delhi were held up and it was not due to negotiations but rather new US administration (Obama) w...

John

At least design wise looks to be better than proposals I have seen for the polish tank destroyer program “Ottokar Brzoza”

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... -programme

John

There is difference in length between Western and Russian 533mm torpedos, Western Torpedos are 21ft long and Russian subs are 24 ft long. This has been deliberately done y both groups so that countries just don't mix and mash weapons are dependent on the Submarine weapons and parts as long as a Sub...

John

Varunastra is supposed to have both ship launched and sub launched versions. The ship launched verion has already been handed over to the Navy and order placed for the same. The sub launched version was still pending. Don't know if the same has been tested or not. However, the size of the torpedo i...

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