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by UlanBatori
22 Apr 2019 20:06
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Also, is there a slight problem w.r.t. location of the tricolor vs. the "CU2*****" lettering.
No, scratch that. It looks like the left side of the vertical tail.
Is the pic from Feb. 27 2019 or from some other MiG crash long ago? What was the lettering on the MiG in question?
by UlanBatori
22 Apr 2019 20:04
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Holes are MOST PROBABLY from where the Pakis shot the wreckage with their AK-47s to make sure it was dead. See one bravely putting his foot on the IAF symbols, and then lifting it again as if it caused pain. So that proves absolutely nothing about any fragmentation blast etc. Besides, if an AAM-Ram ...
by UlanBatori
22 Apr 2019 19:36
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Plane was headed essentially eastwards. So the missile hit the F-16 about 7km west of that. IOW, the MiG did complete a 180 degree turn and was heading home. Makes sense.

BTW, if anyone wants to build their own MiG21 to replace WCdr AV's MiG: provided compliments of Culinary Institute
by UlanBatori
22 Apr 2019 17:16
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion
Replies: 1559
Views: 113271

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

What Chidambaram meant:
We build armies to not win a war but avoid a war by running away and hiding, while we profit from the arms deals.
by UlanBatori
22 Apr 2019 17:12
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion
Replies: 1559
Views: 113271

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

O! I c what happened. "My statement was made in the heat of political campaigning .. my political opponents wrongly projected that I had deliberately .. NOTHING COULD BE FARTHER FROM MY MIND. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/68986759.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium...
by UlanBatori
22 Apr 2019 17:05
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion
Replies: 3984
Views: 242271

Re: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion

There is a small irony in these, for ppl living in S. India, relevant to the ongoing events in India and Manifestos for the future. Not expanding here.
by UlanBatori
22 Apr 2019 06:16
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion
Replies: 3984
Views: 242271

Re: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion

I have never seen the point in someone shouting: "Be Careful!!" about terrorist attacks. Does a Red Alert make you act any differently? Do you slink along walls like James Bond instead of walking down the sidewalk? Unless you know where, when and who exactly, it is very hard to stop someth...
by UlanBatori
22 Apr 2019 06:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Do PAF ppl call their boss sardar, to the peasants? This brings up interesting question: in a 2-seater used as target designator, who sits in the front and who in the back? If it was just an electronics geek maybe the TFTA Commander sits up front, but if the pilot can do the target designation, the ...
by UlanBatori
22 Apr 2019 04:13
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Eastern Europe/Ukraine [Feb 6th 2015]
Replies: 1133
Views: 48701

Re: Eastern Europe/Ukraine [Feb 6th 2015]

Finally! A nation where democracy has really taken root. Ukraine elects a Comedian Volodymyr Zelenskiy, a comedian with no political experience who plays the country’s president on a TV show, has won Ukraine’s presidential election in a landslide, according to a national exit poll. The poll showed Z...
by UlanBatori
22 Apr 2019 02:56
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion
Replies: 3984
Views: 242271

Re: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion

The local Muslim communities in the Island are in shock and understandably so. The Muslim community was a minority community living on the island with no history of violence. Throughout the millennia of existence, the Muslims were an integral part and parcel of the islands rich heritage and culture...
by UlanBatori
22 Apr 2019 02:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Guptaji, This may have been the real heroism of the WCDr in pressing home the engagement. He was vectored in to stop the massive attack by 24 Paki aircraft each carrying 2000lb bomb, on an Indian Brigade HQ. He had a full load of fuel, no problem there. But very little time at combat power, and no o...
by UlanBatori
22 Apr 2019 02:06
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion
Replies: 3984
Views: 242271

Re: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion

DID the Indian HC get attacked? With what results? As for Sinhalese anti-XXXX riots, I think these are historically done with absolutely nothing personal though they tend to burn people alive etc. Mostly the effect of Arrack. My 7th coujin Abdul Kandywali was taken to central SL (around the parts me...
by UlanBatori
22 Apr 2019 01:35
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion
Replies: 3984
Views: 242271

Re: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion

All without anyone getting arrested beforehand. Pretty scary. Given their history with terrorism, they probably have a sophisticated domestic intelligence agencies by now, but still missed it... They were too focused on Tamil and MAYBE Sinhala/ Communist (JVP), perhaps. Domestic Muslims were essent...
by UlanBatori
22 Apr 2019 01:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

The engine parts (fuselage mid-section) seemed pretty-well trashed and blackened, as in a fuel fire. But that may have been very localized; the aluminum did not ignite. But given the festivities in progress at the LOC, a plume of smoke may not have been recognizable from other plumes of smoke.
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 23:39
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion
Replies: 3984
Views: 242271

Re: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion

Question now is: IF this is traced to Pureland, is it cause enough for a combined-ops takeout of PA/LET/NTJ "facilities" in Pak, from east to west and north to south? Or, at minimum, another nice painful Indian jhapad with a pest-e-sha'eed of around 1000? And a :P at the UNSC? "Collat...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 23:06
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion
Replies: 3984
Views: 242271

Re: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion

Well.. we don't know. If there had been an Indian retaliation they might have at least shut up and vetoed the Chinese condom-nation in Yoo Enn. We will never know. But I think Eff Bee Eye cooperated somewhat in catching/de-briefing "David Headley" / Dawood Gilani. Lawsuits on behalf of Pho...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 23:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Why river? Because of the mention that one of the pilots tried to escape by jumping in a river? That was probably one of the unfortunate PAFis. WCDr AV was bleeding on his face, but showed no signs of being wet. So that was not he. Also the pilot who "jumped in a river" was also reported a...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 22:57
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion
Replies: 3984
Views: 242271

Re: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion

"several" US citizens and at least 5 UQ citizens among the dead, another 25 "foreigners" among the dead, unidentified, 9 missing. Not that their lives were worth more than those of the local people, but now there are a few more nations that might wonder how to Give Peace a Chance...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 22:32
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion
Replies: 3984
Views: 242271

Re: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion

Beyond saying that IVS (visa service?) will remain closed on April 23 and 24, no sign of any news at website of Indian Embassy Colombo . Of course website will be hosted somewhere else. Oh, wait, Twitter feed at the site has updates. In addition to the numbers given below, Indian citizens in need of...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 22:21
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion
Replies: 1559
Views: 113271

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Hello people, I've got an article out on Opindia which looks at the parallel with the emergence/spread of Christianity in Europe and comparing it with the situation in India today as we head into a crucial election from an historic perspective. There are many underlying currents which people will s...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 22:02
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

To summarize: 1) There is a set of concentric circles to be drawn to locate where the MiG may have come down. This is because the MiG did not disintegrate, and glided down. The two circles are for glide Lift/Drag ratios of 7 and 4. Seven if the plane stayed close to level, 4 if it was at higher angl...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 19:42
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion
Replies: 3984
Views: 242271

Re: Sri Lanka - News and Discussion

How will SL hit hard? I have a tough time visualizing the SLAF and SLN pounding Islamagood and Karachi and Gwadar. Scratch that, Gwadar is owned by the same ppl who own Hambantota and Trincomalee (Thirukkonam or something like that is the real name). Long b4 we headed to the caves of Mongolia, my Ev...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 19:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

UB how far west of LOC did the Mig 21 fall? Good question. Answer is complicated by many false/wrong claims. I do not know whether the F-16 actually came across the LOC. Also, where exactly (GPS coords) is the military Brigade HQ that was targeted? Knowing that one can draw a cone of where the F-16...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 07:50
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Assuming that we place some credence in the straight-contrail video that has gone missing. why would the contrails be straight for this event? Why would an exploding F-16 not generate tell-tale black-smoking debris falling? The "turn towards the MiG gives way too much credit to the PAF. They we...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 07:35
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: BR Main Site Feedback
Replies: 467
Views: 72059

Re: BR Main Site Feedback

My previous incarnation used to be able to download the thread entirely, one command. Can't seem to be able to do that with this version of the phorum. Very useful to write summaries and refer to facts.
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 07:24
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 3162
Views: 445862

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

I think LOC should be moved, using massive armored thrust if needed. Then the bunkers will be east of the LOC. Hopefully this is happening already. If they build new bunkers, move the line another 5km. Of course Jamwal will say that this is all hallucination and he may be right, but it is time to en...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 07:11
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion
Replies: 1559
Views: 113271

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

No need to give much air time to Ribeiro. He is retired and is entitled to his opinions. He is almost 90 years old. Question is who is he writing for? Is it the US State Dept. Is US State Dept is activating its assets? For example Kancha Illaiah has been called an intellectual and is being fete'd. ...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 05:39
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion
Replies: 1559
Views: 113271

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Ex-IPS Ribeiro has apparently come out with a big blast against NaMo. Shame. India A-Bored (owned by Rediff, right?) has a headline saying "Hindu Princess?" attacking Tulsi Gabbard for "right wing extremist links". I think they have gone too far this time. Maybe time for a social...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 03:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Actually I owe Karan an apology and THANKS! It was the map posted with MiG crash ( NOT SHOT DOWN!!!! ) occurring WEST of the F-16 explosion, that got me thinking. Yes, that is quite possible, and probable, considering the scenarios, and given the evidence of the horizontal-aspect crash-landing- whic...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 01:10
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017
Replies: 2021
Views: 268102

Re: Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

Unlike Modi's rioting India, UK is a peaceful heaven of community relations. BREXIT preview: The rioting apparently erupted as homes belonging to Irish republicans, those who believe all of Ireland should be separate from British rule, were raided ahead of the Easter weekend. "Protecting the p...
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 01:04
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Baluchistan: The Story of Another Pakistan Military Genocide
Replies: 865
Views: 112698

Re: Baluchistan: The Story of Another Pakistan Military Genocide

No wonder the 'terrorists' wear FC uniforms. What else can a very poor Balochistani buy for clothes? FC uniform market value must be near zero given the Love that Balochistanis feel for what is stuffed in them.
by UlanBatori
21 Apr 2019 00:52
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Since mid-February, some 50-odd Indians and 800+ Pakis have died violently in/near J&K. Not counting the 30 or so Iranians and some 200 or 300 Pakis in/near Balochistan. To me the most heartwarming aspect of the whole episode is that India flat-out threatened all-out war, nuclear be damned , to ...
by UlanBatori
20 Apr 2019 23:02
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Rishi, sorry: no contrails. But at least there are no clouds in this one. The object seen may be any one of the EIGHT objects cited b4. Same power line visible.
by UlanBatori
20 Apr 2019 23:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Further explanation of the aero-dynamix of these things. Evidence: MiG-21 nose was found essentially intact, except that the circular cross-section was now pancaked into a flat elliptic cross-section. The rest of the wreckage was mostly behind that. Which means that the MiG essentially crash-landed ...
by UlanBatori
20 Apr 2019 22:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

28zkCei4kbI Is this what you've been looking for? Thx. But no. (This is becoming like the Search 4 A Real Princess Ayesha, aka "Prinjej oph The Pee" ) :shock: White dot splitting in two MAY be ejection seat separating from musharraf-e-PAFpilot (pbuh). As mentioned b4, there were EIGHT fly...
by UlanBatori
20 Apr 2019 21:14
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Thanks, Guptaji, for the hard work. I think u have proved the point, unless someone else can still find that video. That establishes the key video (straight/close/parallel contrails with 2 puffs of WHITE vapor) as the relevant one, removed by Pakis because of what it proves. It must be one that come...
by UlanBatori
20 Apr 2019 20:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

What he showed is the standard courage and fortitude of the modern Indian soldier / police person. All those ppl u see in the helmets in the photos from J&K, Arunachal, Northeast, everywhere... this is the standard. the WingCdr simply showed a small glimpse of it. With all respect to and awe of ...
by UlanBatori
20 Apr 2019 19:19
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Understanding the US - Again
Replies: 2634
Views: 259688

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Now they will appoint a Special Prosecutor to investigate obstruction of Justice by the Attorney-Jarnail. Trouble is that unlike in Mongolia the citjens are not coming out with the lassos and pitchforks to motivate the lawmakers to do something useful. Think about the record of the COTUS since about...
by UlanBatori
20 Apr 2019 18:44
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2977
Views: 382844

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

UBCN current Truth is that WingCdr A. flew west until he ran out of fuel, made sure to aim his plane towards some worthwhile target (MiG was up for disposal, which is expensive), bailed out, strolled along to the nearest PA HQ and said: My name is Varthaman. Abhinandan Varthaman, (if u cretins can s...

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