Bharat Rakshak

Why are we so bent on always making something tomorrow? I can understand corrupt bureaucrats, politicians and some high ranked officials say this for keeping their bank balances bloated but why is it even an option for any of us discussing on BRF (I consider all members with their best intentions to...

Hawk can provide "average" of 60 hours per month ie. two hours per day. This means a Single Hawk on "average" can train 12 pilots a year, as a trainee requires around 60 hours on an AJT. Hence with 200 pilots passing out per annum, we need around 200/12 = 16-20 Hawks . How come ...

The drones are named Cai Hong, or Rainbow, with the bestselling CH-3 capable of firing missiles 10 kilometres (six miles) from a target and staying in the air for more than 10 hours, the report said. Wouldn't such drones come under MTCR? These drones if they fiy for 10 hours would clearly have a ra...

Its now high time to Imagine the Arjun Mk3 which is closer to 55 Tons is it possible to have an Arjun Mk3 close to 55 tons. We would have to reduce the dimensions of the tank which would require re-designing of almost every aspect of the tank. I am no expert but is it so simple to reduce the down r...

It was clear that based on where SPs were along in their Jigs and statement by the person in-charge that SP-3 would be completed and flown by July. SP-3 was at final equipping and assembly phase while SP-4 was at coupling stage. Can any of the gurus please comment on the production timelines for an...

Cost concern wrt both tanks is valid and would not be able to match the T90's cost. Obviously Arjun cannot match the costs of T-90. Arjun is given piecemeal orders so economies of scale cannot be used. Any imported parts cannot be licence produced. Development and infrastructure costs cannot be amo...

The quest now is for the second "cheap" fighter to replace the hundreds of MIG types being pensioned off. I dont quite understand how these 2nd "cheap" fighters would help replace the hundreds of Migs. It would take India at least an year or 2 before it decided it wants which fi...

NRao saab, isnt the first step the most difficult to take? Is it not the LCA development that gives us confidence that we can exceed it and make AMCA in a shorter duration. I agree that funds would be paramount to any engine development and our engine development has been funded with peanuts. Howeve...

Kaveri target dry was 52 kn, reached 49.2. Wet was 81, reached some 70. IIRC. My feel is that they may resolve the matter based on inputs from GE, under DTTI. Couldn't be further from the truth. Why would GE help us perfect a GE product replacement so that we do not have to pay them for further eng...

The pace at which China is creating newer generation and even making variants of existing aircraft is frightening. At a time when our DPSUs are struggling to produce even 1-2 4th generation aircraft in a year even after 2-3 years of promising, the chinese would start producing 5th generation planes....

Well gradually as solar becomes more competitive against coal, new coal plants would likely not be setup as green field projects but extensions of other existing coal plants as a lot of those plants have excess land available. This not only reduces time to start production but also will keep coal so...

The design team also needs some work yaar

On a more serious note, we are still experimenting with our stealth designs.
Also the difference between the FFGs and DDGs is actually about 1500 tons.
You dont need 7500 ton behemoths for every exercise. Gives you flexibility.

Guys, I have a newbie question. Saw the specs for HAL LUH and KA-226T. HAL LUH empty weight wiki says is 1675 Kg and max take off weight as 2700 Kg with the Shakti engine (1706 hp) KA-226T says gross weight of 3400 Kg with 2 engines each generating 650 hp, so total 1300 hp. HUL range is 350 kms and ...

Guys is the LCA demo over or is it still going on?
Any video or pics?

I guess our Tejas would be in the air now enthralling all present.
Any commentary guys?
Fingers crossed
BTW, why does the time for my post show 17:00 when the actual time is 18:00 now?

So a trainer aircraft comes for $1m, a 4th gen fighter comes for less than $10m ($25m/3).
Is Pakistan selling hardware or just hope

The IAF could follow the example of Egypt,reportedly buying only 24 Rafales,but 46+ MIG-29s (for just $2B) and another 24+ MIG-35s. Perhaps the Egyptians have been BRF lurkers,reading our posts! The IAF would have no option apart from doing this. Max they can have another squadron to it but dwindli...

$15b for 3000 artillery pieces works out to about 33 crores per piece. Isnt that too expensive given that Dhanush costs around 14 crores only ? Is the imported maal so expensive or does it also include the ammunition as well?

Found this article on idrw.org. Heights of biased reporting. The name sounds like there is some good news but it is inevitably Arjun bashing all along.

http://idrw.org/armor-arjun-back-from-the-dead-again/

Or maybe ADA was thinking IAF would allow Tejas to be inducted like JF-17 without any IOC and while testing was still going on

The LCA programme has staggered on and on and on.I remember BRF buffs way back in 2001 predicting that the first sqd. would definitely be ready by 2003/4/5...the years kept slipping and slipping and slipping. Today,we do not have even the first sqd. of the 40MK-1s reluctantly ordered by the IAF ,ha...

Saw this on idrw.org. Not sure what sense to make of it. The data in this shows that our LCA is no match even for the bandar
What does the Gurus' analysis say?

http://idrw.org/archives/59478

Well as long as Arjun's weight issues are not resolved, IA will keep coming back with 'logistic issues' and order only piecemeal orders. Arjun Mk-3 should concentrate on lowering the weight of the tank by some re-designing (easier said than done)

a newbie question again. Does any of the BRF elders recall why the weight of the Arjun went in the 55-60 ton category when the initial requirement was for a 45-50 ton tank? I remember having read few years back that it was because of some transmission issues but cannot find the article now. Can anyo...

Can anyone please let me know why mig/cheetak aircrafts are now outdated. What I want to know is, if their speed, t/w ratios and altitude ceiling were good in past it should be good now also. Only thing i think has changed is avionics and spares supply. So can't we just replace the avionics and bui...

I have one newbie question, is it in anyway possible to reduce the weight and maybe dimensions of the Arjun eg. using an autoloader and hence a 3 man crew. Would that reduce the space and hence the dimensions of the Arjun? I agree this would require re-designing the tank to some extent but a tank in...

Well Arjun has a number of firsts for an Indian tank. IA wants stuff that we do not have even in the phoren maal tanks. Uncooled thermal imager which was later used in T-90 as theirs was not working. Missile firing, Active protection, mine plougher (of all things), mobile camouflage (ever heard of s...

Well, the IA keeps asking for uber-cool stuff to be put into Arjun which obviously increases the costs and then come order a measly 118 which obviously would not allow costs to come down. Arjun will always be in the perpetual cycle of development with little practical use this way. All efforts of 2 ...

actually the price for each frigate is even lesser at around $380 m. seems we were expecting to have a 4900 tons FFG for $120 m while ordering only 3 ships in a class.

even after approx 200% cost escalation, our Shivalik class FFGs cost around 11500 Crores whereas similar frigates other countries (barring maybe China) cost much more. Why is it then that we constantly say that there are huge cost escalations? Did we actually underestimate the costs earlier so the a...

So final results today