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by rsangram
12 Sep 2020 18:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 1776
Views: 245074

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Precisely. Talk about shivering in dhoti... Having said that the current situation of far better than it ever was since 62 it seems. So perhaps it's good enough if we consolidate the gains made, for now. Either you have not read my post in its entirety or you think that GOI and armed forces are dho...
by rsangram
12 Sep 2020 18:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 1776
Views: 245074

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

True unfortunately parts of Indian media and some brainless parts of our opposition are compromised and openly stating Chinese propaganda. Welcome........to Democrazy Democracy........you sure? Or Chorocracy(Kleptocracy) ? But at least we are not the Communist Party, with no freedoms, oppression an...
by rsangram
06 Sep 2020 22:56
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

There is scant information and attention paid to what I believe is the most important sub sector - Depsang. From all reports, the Chinese have effectively completely blocked Indian patrolling in areas, which fall inside what India considers its territory - and there are no doubts that it is Indian t...
by rsangram
30 Aug 2020 18:25
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Democracies I would say is only for Indian like not any other. We like to maintain statusquo. This mindset has cost us dearly for the last couple of thousand years. Democracy is just a outer covering to this thought process which far preceeds 1950. It is time we recognize this shortcoming and make ...
by rsangram
28 Jul 2020 20:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Troops Disengaged on most of India-China border https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/beijing-claims-troops-disengaged-on-most-of-india-china-border/articleshow/77219211.cms Looks like things are settling down now. Finally ! Senseless of the Chinese to do all this in the first place. Ultimately...
by rsangram
26 Jul 2020 02:02
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

sudarshan wrote:
rsangram wrote:...


So this thread is effectively derailed then?



Sorry.

Let us get back to the topic.

What is the latest on the fingers ?

and

What did Gen N say yesterday and Gen O was downright direct, wasnt he ? And that Shukla, I dont even listen to him.
by rsangram
26 Jul 2020 00:38
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

You make an important point. Let me add that strength of character comes from being connected to civilisational roots and living the civilisational culture and values. A civilisation that is colonised mentally faces severe problems in all fields. Language is one indicator of mental colonisation. Ge...
by rsangram
25 Jul 2020 20:38
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

More than weapon systems, policies, government actions, reactions - more than what world powers of all hue do, even more than the nature of our adversaries and even their actions, the MOST Dominant Factor influencing the Security of a People, a Community, a Nation - a Civilization, the "Big Ele...
by rsangram
24 Jul 2020 17:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Thanks a lot Lakshman. Your map shows Chinese presence well on their side of LAC. Why is there this general belief then, including statements from even non-Shukla and sane Ex-Army officers, that Chinese have INGRESSED at Depsang and changed status quo there and are not moving out. Using your map, c...
by rsangram
22 Jul 2020 22:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

can someone provide a link to situation in depsang..maps..indian / chini positions ..ingress?? No OSINT or Satellite image specialists released any maps for that area till date... However, I have identified Chinese roads in that area based on Google Earth---> Chinese Roads in Cyan... Indian Shyok-D...
by rsangram
22 Jul 2020 06:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

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by rsangram
22 Jul 2020 01:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

abhik wrote:
rsangram wrote:...That is the reason I said, let us be Chankian!
...

In BRF we call it being Chunkian :rotfl:


Who is the joke on ?

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
by rsangram
21 Jul 2020 22:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

This sounds ridiculously close to, "abki baar maar ke dikhao". Very concisely put, and I dont disagree with you. But we should not put it this way. It does not appear good for us. I mean, really, that is what we have been doing since 1962. None of us on the forum are in charge or have bee...
by rsangram
21 Jul 2020 21:30
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

No offence intended, but I have some problems with your post. Among other things, you contradict yourself several times. Here goes... To all hawks, I recommend patience. And prudence. Let us not Dhoti Shiver, nor rush headlong, full throttle into a war, without looking left of right. Best to be Cha...
by rsangram
20 Jul 2020 20:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

To all hawks, I recommend patience. And prudence. Let us not Dhoti Shiver, nor rush headlong, full throttle into a war, without looking left of right. Best to be Chankian. While it is true that we can teach China a lesson now, we should still wait until our economy is better, and then take them on. ...
by rsangram
17 Jun 2020 01:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

amar_p wrote:Thats a matter of judgement isn't it?
And only time and benefit of hindsight will tell whether the call taken was right or wrong.
The fork in the road not taken will remain a matter of speculation for ever.


Thats right. Let us just wait..........and see
by rsangram
17 Jun 2020 01:44
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Emotions are high, me included. We respect and love our boys, but the Army is not an end in itself. If we can achieve our objectives while letting our boys go home alive to their families, we should not forgo those options. The information we are getting is evolving by the minute, and the situation...
by rsangram
17 Jun 2020 01:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

India of 2020 doesn't have a fragile ego to escalate the conflict to prove something to others or itself. We could be criticised for being naive, forgiving and conciliatory in the past, but the India and Indian leadership (be it NaMo, Shah, Jaishankar, Rajnath, Goyal, Gadkari, Smriti...) I see at p...
by rsangram
16 Jun 2020 21:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

The Telegraph(England) is reporting 13 Indian soldiers dead. 32 captured. Scores Injured. Telegraph also says, that "unconfirmed reports" say that there are 5 casualties on the Chinese side. The Telegraph treaded very carefully giving out that Chinese casualty figure with qualification aft...
by rsangram
16 Jun 2020 21:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Picture is not clear yet. We cannot escalate until the picture is clear
by rsangram
16 Jun 2020 18:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 955804

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

On a serious note, I for one, prefer to die attacking, rather than defending. I also prefer dying on Chinese Territory rather than Indian territory. I also have a high tolerance for casualty the first time and the second time and the third time.......because even losing a war and taking high casualt...
by rsangram
14 Jun 2020 23:02
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Evolution of Indian Strategic Thought-1
Replies: 597
Views: 46515

Re: Evolution of Indian Strategic Thought-1

India has seldom had good systems of governance right through its history. In fact, while it is true, that Indian history has been hijacked by Islamists, Commies, Liars, Commies again and Hindu genocide deniers or even Hindu genocide proponents, even in those rare honest history books, there are sti...
by rsangram
18 Oct 2019 22:27
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Turkey News, discussions, India Turkey Relations
Replies: 1133
Views: 175817

Re: Turkey News, discussions, India Turkey Relations

The Turkish gun has accepted the american deal and agreed to a cease-fire , i think it was most likely friend Putin's "friendly" advice followed by "friend" America's threat .. meantime military sanctions on Turkey is likely to hit military-industrial supplies in Europe as the t...
by rsangram
18 Oct 2019 22:18
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K Union Territory-2019
Replies: 3708
Views: 671539

Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

I think Bajwa is right on the money !
by rsangram
25 Jun 2017 18:56
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Afghanistan News & Discussion - April 2016
Replies: 980
Views: 200566

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion - April 2016

A few days ago, I had posted that there is a plan afoot, initiated by the Chinese, mediated by the Russians and acquiesced by the Americans, to basically hand over Afghan to Paki proxies, with some face saving to Americans and granting China extensive mineral rights in Afghanistan. There were many j...
by rsangram
25 Jun 2017 18:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
Views: 1342793

Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

So, this has been going on for at least 10 days now. Why is the Indian government not leveling with the Indian people on this ? Why is the government totally silent ? No coverage of this in the press either. What is the government hiding ? Why is no one talking about it ? Should not the Defense Min...
by rsangram
25 Jun 2017 09:45
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
Views: 1342793

Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

http://www.news18.com/news/india/china-refuses-entry-to-kailash-mansarovar-yatris-after-border-skirmish-1442213.html China Refuses Entry To Kailash Mansarovar Yatris After ‘ Border Skirmish ’ According to sources, the situation in Nathu-la evolved after an incident of skirmish at Dokala area of Sik...
by rsangram
25 Jun 2017 09:33
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
Views: 1342793

Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

The Hidden Motives Of The Chinese Silk Road Oilprice.com June 24, 2017 https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hidden-motives-chinese-silk-road-200000173.html The long-term strategic consequences of OBOR for India could also allow China to consolidate its presence in the Indian Ocean at India’s expense. Ind...
by rsangram
25 Jun 2017 09:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: China Watch Thread-I
Replies: 815
Views: 109079

Re: China Watch Thread-I

THE BUZZ China's Secret Landgrab (No, Not in the South China Sea) Zachary Keck June 23, 2017 http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/chinas-secret-landgrab-no-not-the-south-china-sea-21296 "Bite by kilometer-size bite, China is eating away at India’s Himalayan borderlands,” Brahma Chellaney, ...
by rsangram
25 Jun 2017 06:50
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 3305
Views: 651347

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Also, Just in case you don't know, using the posts on death martyrdom are never good to drive a broader point to wider audience. IF that is the case, why are you so worried. My posts will not gain any traction, and you can conveniently ignore those, safe in that knowledge. Taking cheap shots such a...
by rsangram
25 Jun 2017 06:35
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 3305
Views: 651347

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

^^^rsangram ji Boss are you acting member of AAP or you're still high on the supplies from Langley source? Have you even read my post to refer me as dhimmi useful idiot or appeaser. Please take a break! Your comments are completely unrelated to my post and are related to others posts. would be nice...
by rsangram
25 Jun 2017 03:52
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Positive News from the USA
Replies: 3078
Views: 211051

Re: Positive News from the USA

President Trump's Deafening Silence on Lincoln Memorial White Nationalist Rally The president must do more. He should go to the Lincoln Memorial and read aloud Lincoln’s affirmation of America’s most fundamental principle – “all men are created equal.” J. RICHARD COHEN 06.24.17 11:29 AM ET http://w...
by rsangram
25 Jun 2017 03:36
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 3305
Views: 651347

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Rsangram, If its sarcasm, its in real real bad taste, if it's not I request moderators to outrightly ban you. No need to vent out frustration from other posters on me Oh, pa-leeeeese......spare me the fake outrage and genuine ignorance. This post was neither intended to seriously call you a Paki, n...
by rsangram
24 Jun 2017 18:07
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Positive News from the USA
Replies: 3078
Views: 211051

Re: Positive News from the USA

Vincent Chin, a young American of Chinese descent had just come out of a bar with friends after having a bachelor's party, as he was getting married shortly. He was brutally bashed in the head repeatedly with a baseball bat by two white unemployed auto workers in 1980s Detroit. He died a few days la...
by rsangram
23 Jun 2017 20:52
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 3305
Views: 651347

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

We're hearing this for fairly some time (close to a month now) that police will retaliate or police hits back. The bus to peace talks with any party has passed long back. We have a strong reason now, the retribution should come now and come thick. What is most shameful is the talks Abdulla duo and ...
by rsangram
23 Jun 2017 11:16
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 3305
Views: 651347

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Here we go again, and every time it gets more brutal than the previous time. J-K: Violent mob lynches police officer near Jama Masjid in Srinagar The body of deputy superintendent of police Mohammed Ayub Pandith, who was working in the security wing of Jammu and Kashmir police, was recovered on Frid...
by rsangram
23 Jun 2017 05:17
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Afghanistan News & Discussion - April 2016
Replies: 980
Views: 200566

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion - April 2016

^^ Brilliant! Massa-alla! Massa-alla! Perfect baki logic! Bakis won 1965 and Kargil. But this is the first time I have heard/read a baki claim victory for 1971. Unfair didi too says the same thing. Bakis surviving to fight India another day is considered a victory by Baki army. How well you thought...
by rsangram
23 Jun 2017 04:19
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Afghanistan News & Discussion - April 2016
Replies: 980
Views: 200566

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion - April 2016

If loosing half the country is success then I guess such a policy can be thought of as effective but not in my books. On most parameters, the citizens of India are better than they were before while the bakis have been sliding down in-spite of their "success". In my book India has won not...

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