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by bharotshontan
03 Apr 2018 23:22
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4961
Views: 280025

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Incidentally - the Swat samples were from 1000 BCE, 300 BCE and 1 CE. These were termed Indus periphery and were used to model all of India. This is just plain wrong. I will check where they got 140 modern day samples from India. They aren't using the Suvastu valley samples as representative of Ind...
by bharotshontan
03 Apr 2018 22:13
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4961
Views: 280025

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

According to this paper, the steppe genes that are supposed to come to India after 1500 BC, were they direct from steppe or via Iran? If they are not from Iran, then how will it affect the neatly crafted IE language tree of Indo-Iranian language giving rise to Indic and Iranian languages? The paper...
by bharotshontan
03 Apr 2018 20:47
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4961
Views: 280025

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

One revelation of this paper (assuming that it is correct) is that genetic models seem to be not stable against small perturbations. Three samples of aDNA turned the origins of ANI and ASI upside down. It may be a fair inference that further discoveries could destabilize the model that this paper p...
by bharotshontan
03 Apr 2018 19:37
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4961
Views: 280025

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Folks there is no ancient DNA that is capturing anything called AASI. Prior to this they had the DNA of some bodies from Zagros mountains in Iran from 7000bc, which they refer to in anthropological circles in shorthand as Iran_N or Iran Neolithic or in latest Reich book as Iranian farmers. For this ...
by bharotshontan
09 Dec 2017 10:45
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4961
Views: 280025

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Children typically learn language from mothers. For language history - look for Mitochondrial DNA That may be true but we're talking marriage not rape here. For the most part women take their husband's ethnic identity if they're from a different background. I've never heard Abhishek Bachchan or Sai...
by bharotshontan
09 Dec 2017 10:36
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4961
Views: 280025

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

My simple request to the learned gurus here is to provide holistic explanations to all findings as they come and not just in Indo centric fashion with sole aim at refuting a defunct AIT but towards explaining population structure worldwide. I think you are jumping the gun. Would you be able to poin...
by bharotshontan
09 Dec 2017 10:27
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4961
Views: 280025

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

This is the aDNA study from Nepal Annapurna Conservation Area on Nepal Tibet border region. 8 skeletons were found. 1 from 3000 years ago, 3 from 2000 years ago and 4 from 1200 years ago.
http://m.pnas.org/content/113/27/7485.full#T1
by bharotshontan
09 Dec 2017 10:22
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4961
Views: 280025

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

My simple request to the learned gurus here is to provide holistic explanations to all findings as they come and not just in Indo centric fashion with sole aim at refuting a defunct AIT but towards explaining population structure worldwide. For a first, Rakhigarhi will be the first aDNA being mined ...
by bharotshontan
09 Dec 2017 10:03
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4961
Views: 280025

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

So what happened to the Andronovo => Sintashta => BMAC people? Did some of them make it India or not? Were they the carriers of R1a1* to India? Did some of these people also end up in Tarim basin in China( Tocharian mummies carrying R1a1* DNA )? Why is it that other than the commonality of R1a1* be...
by bharotshontan
05 Dec 2017 00:38
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4961
Views: 280025

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Are you guys arguing against Kurgan hypothesis here for the origins and split of Proto Indo European? I don't know who "you guys" are. I am not you guys. What the hell is "proto-Indo-European"? No such language existed. It is simply a hypothesis that postulates a mother language...
by bharotshontan
04 Dec 2017 20:01
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4961
Views: 280025

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Are you guys arguing against Kurgan hypothesis here for the origins and split of Proto Indo European? I think there are two different things here that the original (and discredited) Aryan invasion theory mangled up, and that is genes spread and language/culture spread. Kurgan model still places the ...
by bharotshontan
10 Oct 2017 23:16
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Combating Terrorism Using Soft Power
Replies: 170
Views: 11840

Re: Combating Terrorism Using Soft Power

Different audience means different effective strategy. Tamil separatism or Naxal insurgency or northeast non-Christian ethnic separatism call for implementation of soft and hybrid power. With Islamists from Kashmir to Kerala, nothing but shaft power works. And by shaft I mean underhanded demographic...
by bharotshontan
06 Oct 2017 22:36
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: The Rohingya Menace
Replies: 560
Views: 52042

Re: The Rohingya Menace

Imho Britain should be the country to provide asylum to Rohingya. When other populations of Indian subcontinent origins made their way via Raj to other British domains around the world in large enough numbers to alter demographics (e.g. Fiji, Trinidad, Guyana, Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, Mauritius, etc...
by bharotshontan
16 Aug 2017 02:04
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
Views: 902628

Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Is there some escalation ladder protocol in place where non fatal combat between international combatants is somehow a lesser provocation than fatal combat? I don't understand the point of these jostling, wrestling, now stone throwing, next water cannon shooting etc. If Indian soldiers respond to a...
by bharotshontan
16 Aug 2017 01:37
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
Views: 902628

Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Is there some escalation ladder protocol in place where non fatal combat between international combatants is somehow a lesser provocation than fatal combat? I don't understand the point of these jostling, wrestling, now stone throwing, next water cannon shooting etc. If Indian soldiers respond to a ...
by bharotshontan
19 Jul 2017 03:06
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
Views: 902628

Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Any chance for a Bhutan merger with India coming out of this Chinese aggression?
by bharotshontan
01 Jun 2017 00:07
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4961
Views: 280025

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Please note that those findings also state that ANI has been separated from its closest West-Eurasian relatives by 20,000 YBP. . Which findings, and exactly where is this stated? Same Moorjani article, and I had a different topic in my head regarding 20k YBP, it is instead 12.5k YBP, but still prio...
by bharotshontan
31 May 2017 22:52
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4961
Views: 280025

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Please note that those findings also state that ANI has been separated from its closest West-Eurasian relatives by 20,000 YBP. So if ANI is AIT/AMT/ATT, then ANI was not intermingling with fellow West-Eurasians for 20,000 years but as soon as entering India they vigorously mixed with local ASI's? Th...
by bharotshontan
19 May 2017 22:09
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 2054
Views: 313753

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Encroaching on a 0%-Muslim Islam-banned Quran-banned nation is impossible. Any idiot from WB knows the bulk of the Muslim exponential growth is firstly from the local WB Muslims themselves, and secondly, the issue of illegal BD Muslim migrants is moot because a BD Muslim in Rajshahi has extended fam...
by bharotshontan
19 May 2017 20:01
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 2054
Views: 313753

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

. I think there is virtue in starting a movement for a second partition of India but this time initiated by the Dharmics seeking a 0% Islamic population ... The metaphor that is more applicable is a body having malignant tumors all over and needing to fight that cancer requires first cutting out an...
by bharotshontan
19 May 2017 16:15
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 2054
Views: 313753

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

There isn't any "refuse" to move. Folks only move in demographic changing terms when fear of life is there. Hindus were unable or unwilling to reproduce that climate in Hindu majority erstwhile India while Muslims were successful in creating such in erstwhile Pakistan. Sikhs extracted thei...
by bharotshontan
27 Apr 2017 21:45
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Roots of Chinese boastfulness - history & psyche
Replies: 193
Views: 21199

Re: Roots of Chinese boastfulness - history & psyche

Chinese seem to have been quick to adopt white supremacism into the older/traditional/subtler paler=better colorism in the modern era. It seemed to evolve in front of my eyes in the keyboard wars in online forums in the early to mid 2000s, where all of a sudden the Chinese realized they are at par w...
by bharotshontan
19 Apr 2017 00:16
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 2054
Views: 313753

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Amending constitution articles needs 2/3 But in 370's case it needs state assembly to also do simple majority / 2/3 not clear - this is a very unique provision. I was reading a book on J&K, where Chacha's shenanigans are mentioned in some detail. Also why he asked for a premature cease fire in ...
by bharotshontan
18 Apr 2017 18:23
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 2054
Views: 313753

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

IMHO the battle in Valley wrt KM is symptom of our larger civilization fight against ROP. There can be no winning of "hearts and minds" via "development" as long as they remain ROP. As a poster has already posted here, the decade os 2000s saw tourism revive the economy as peace r...
by bharotshontan
18 Apr 2017 17:39
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 2054
Views: 313753

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

What is the guarantee that Kashmir Valley demographics can naturally be overturned even after Article 370 is removed? What Hindu family will willingly put themselves in a peaceful majority area? We do palayan from neighborhoods of cities that turn Muslim, forget an entire part of a state. Unless ove...
by bharotshontan
05 Apr 2017 22:53
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Interests
Replies: 6459
Views: 237363

Re: Indian Interests

There's a video circulating of Muslim women performing aarti on Ram Navami in Varanasi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a1WZ1k69iI My thoughts on this presentation is, are these people actually normally burqa-clad or is whichever viraat Hindu group paying them also telling them to come dressed in t...
by bharotshontan
27 Mar 2017 18:04
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Interests
Replies: 6459
Views: 237363

Re: Indian Interests

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/nri/us-canada-news/indian-americans-hold-peaceful-protest-against-cnn-in-chicago/articleshow/57848920.cms Who is authoring these articles for consumption by Indian audiences? I will mark my comments in red... WASHINGTON: A large number of Indian Americans turned up...
by bharotshontan
23 Mar 2017 17:36
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Understanding US thread-III
Replies: 3131
Views: 219333

Re: Understanding US thread-III

Today I saw in the news a white guy from Maryland drove up to Manhattan with a sword, stabbed a random black man in the street multiple times and killed him and calmly turned himself in. https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/new-york/manhattan/suspect-midtown-knife-killing-surrenders-co...
by bharotshontan
14 Mar 2017 22:26
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Bangladesh News and Discussion
Replies: 2469
Views: 174262

Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

http://indianexpress.com/article/world/sufi-leader-daughter-murdered-in-bangladesh-4569029/ A Sufi spiritual leader and his daughter were brutally murdered by unidentified attackers in Bangladesh, amid a series of systematic assaults targeting minorities, Sufis and bloggers in the Muslim-majority na...
by bharotshontan
12 Mar 2017 21:20
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Understanding US thread-III
Replies: 3131
Views: 219333

Re: Understanding US thread-III

Gas station owned by Indians burned in Florida by man doing his part to get rid of America from Muslims
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.wptv.com ... -says.html
by bharotshontan
08 Mar 2017 22:54
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India-US relations: News and Discussions III
Replies: 3964
Views: 391445

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Bharat, I have heard stories from American born Indian folks (those who were born during late 70s to mid 90s era...not the ones who were born mid-2000s), even in CA, where they faced incidents similar to what you have described. One dude told me that he had to go the extra mile to be treated like a...
by bharotshontan
08 Mar 2017 21:03
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: The Islamic State, the Indian Sub-Continent & its Neighbourhood
Replies: 802
Views: 60005

Re: The Islamic State and the Indian Sub-Continent

http://www.oneindia.com/india/won-t-accept-the-body-of-an-anti-national-slain-is-operative-s-father-2368475.html We can sympathise with the parents of the terrorist who may not know about his activities. As long as Muslims think that the person who says five times Namaz is a good man there will be ...
by bharotshontan
08 Mar 2017 19:48
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India-US relations: News and Discussions III
Replies: 3964
Views: 391445

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

One thing that I really hope that this forum is paying attention to is that it is not only white americans that can't tell the difference between Hindu/Sikh and muslims. This holds true for african americans and latinos too. I personally can't identify northern chinese from korean or south chinese ...
by bharotshontan
08 Mar 2017 06:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Replies: 2857
Views: 327605

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Nearly half of India’s migrants are in just three countries: the United Arab Emirates, Pakistan and the United States- Pew Research Center Is this fact verifiable ; can someone throw some light of this ; or is this some sort of a "mischeivuous" report ? Indians overstaying their stay in P...
by bharotshontan
08 Mar 2017 01:42
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India-US relations: News and Discussions III
Replies: 3964
Views: 391445

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Hollywood has used Indian subcontinental origin people to play Arabs and Iranians in movies I think. Average American doesn't realize that Arabs are like Steve Jobs phenotype and most look no different from white-Hispanics like the multitudes of immigrants from Latin America that white-Americans are...
by bharotshontan
03 Mar 2017 15:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India-US relations: News and Discussions III
Replies: 3964
Views: 391445

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

I agree regarding shoot to kill only. Brandishing business is only for movies. Hence the need to do regular target practice along with public carrying license. Local NRA chapters have classes sometimes where they simulate intruder break ins, they might offer random shooter on prowl type scenarios a...
by bharotshontan
03 Mar 2017 12:38
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India-US relations: News and Discussions III
Replies: 3964
Views: 391445

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Get conceal carry licenses, stay strapped up, go shooting once a month for target practice. I wonder what percentage of the 4m is availing the second amendment. it is a bad idea to carry firearms, concealed or not, in USA. It is also illegal to brandish a firearm. Take it out only if you mean to sh...
by bharotshontan
03 Mar 2017 05:18
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India-US relations: News and Discussions III
Replies: 3964
Views: 391445

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Well I have no apology for these characters ,I say I am here because I am better than u in everything I do. I will stay here if it suits me and leave when I want, none of your business. Now what are u going to do about it. Best not to say that in Kansas. Get conceal carry licenses, stay strapped up...
by bharotshontan
28 Feb 2017 21:51
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: The Islamic State, the Indian Sub-Continent & its Neighbourhood
Replies: 802
Views: 60005

Re: The Islamic State and the Indian Sub-Continent

KJo wrote:Why does everyone say "Indian Muslims are not in any kind of terrorism"?
From what we see, there are many IMs in ISIS and even Al-Qaeda and different versions.


Damage control?
by bharotshontan
18 Feb 2017 17:37
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016
Replies: 2857
Views: 327605

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

It is better to fight the battle in TSP land Why bring the war to our doorsteps., let them go to Barbaria and fight it out among their own ummah biraders. Who cares? Of course some bleeding hearts will want it here so that our own will be sacrificed. BTW, Barbaria is a big place - very very big pla...

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