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by syam
17 Dec 2017 22:30
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Try and get a brief overview of Greek philosophy and philosophers and you will find that many have expressed worldviews similar to Vedanta. But I think Greek exposure to Vedanta is very "recent" -that is in the 1000 bc to 500 bc era. That is too recent. Vedas date back several milleniums ...
by syam
17 Dec 2017 21:10
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1173535

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

See the post above . I am surprised you are not able to find sources that discuss the equation Sarasvati and Harahvaiti. I checked your source. If you had observed it little bit closer, you would have seen (*) symbol before that word. The author tells us something in starting note. In passages tran...
by syam
17 Dec 2017 11:58
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1173535

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Personally to me this word appears identical to the Indian Sarasvati. This equation (Saravati == Harahvaiti) is accepted by many scholars including Indian. That's the problem with our discussion. It may appear similar but meaning is entirely different. You are still not producing any credible sourc...
by syam
17 Dec 2017 11:39
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1173535

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

There is an entire book devoted to this. Please read and see what information you get. It is called "India in Greece'. https://archive.org/details/indiaingreeceort00poco Thanks for the link, shivji. I am trying to find the life style in Greece before all things gone drain. Please check this on...
by syam
17 Dec 2017 11:35
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1173535

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

~~ IMO-- feels to disagree and or add to my post. Thanks for replying with such long post. We frame the whole transition based on what we read from mainstream history sources. I am not saying slavery is not there in Islam or some other Western lifestyle. I noticed two types slavery here. I explaine...
by syam
17 Dec 2017 11:19
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Maybe you have not heard of the slave dynasty. Or maybe you did not hear about the Delhi Sultanate of which there is debate "was it a slave society or society with slaves?" (eg. http://www.academia.edu/3198988/The_Delhi_Sultanate_A_Slave_Society_or_A_Society_with_Slaves ) or you do not wa...
by syam
17 Dec 2017 00:10
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1173535

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

And then you say "don't know this subject is taboo here." It's not taboo, it's pointless and silly, at least until you fully explain where you're going with it. I want to know how much impact India had on them through out the time. What they were and such. I am trying to organise my own t...
by syam
16 Dec 2017 23:44
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1173535

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Wrong assumption on bolded parts. Islam is all about slavery. When your premise is based on wrong assumptions, in corollary your questions and your presumptions itself are wrong. I didn't give them any certificate there. I am speaking in relative terms. Not in indian context. Seriously, Christianit...
by syam
16 Dec 2017 23:16
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1173535

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Off-topic: Guys, can you tell me more about slavery in West during earlier period. Islam is more about conversions and Harems than into slavery(?). I don't know how much Persians and Greeks practiced slavery. Romans I don't know but European have rich history of slavery. I really want to know more a...
by syam
15 Dec 2017 12:13
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1173535

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Here is my brand new theory, Western block gone through min. three waves till 1000BC. First one is, Vedic wave through pre-Avesta religion. It is the reason why many languages sound similar to sankrit in Europe. It was earlier promotion of spirituality. Dates are unknown. Mostly happened before 2000...
by syam
14 Dec 2017 16:46
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1173535

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

These two words are almost identical: Sarasvati and Harahvaiti. They can't represent two different things. They represent different things. Repeating same thing again and again can't make it true. If you want to respond to me by one liner again, forget about the discussion. I don't have time for st...
by syam
14 Dec 2017 13:12
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

I am not exactly interested in dating Ramayana and Maha Bharata. I actually believe it happened as it described in our epics. Science is part of life but not exactly the ultimate goal of it. Ultimate goal is always Moksha. . Another thing is, I don't know how anyone can focus on small details when a...
by syam
13 Dec 2017 22:58
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

For antiquity sake,

"Kenotkel" burial ground - monument of Andronovo culture
by syam
13 Dec 2017 15:29
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1173535

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

..... Harahvaiti is not river. But land. Avesta name is Harahvaiti. ,.... You have to do more research but I had mentioned that the name is used for land also. Though if you study Indian communities they have names such as Saraswat Brahmin, or Goud Saraswat Brahmin. The word Saraswat in these names...
by syam
13 Dec 2017 15:26
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1173535

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Please excuse me for stating something here. Please dismiss my words as rubbish if you like, but I believe that our education brainwashes us with information sourced from Europe along with the indoctrination that what comes from Europe (and now USA) is always 100% correct. This is the "standar...
by syam
13 Dec 2017 11:09
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1173535

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

I think that is sort of the norm for non-native pronunciations of a foreign language -- Indians should know given the number of languages we get to butcher as we travel around the country. Besides, aren't Greek translations a little later in the day than the time periods we are discussing here, in ...
by syam
12 Dec 2017 23:45
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1173535

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

I am still not recovered from earlier mental gymnastics. So any lies and fake references propagated by our PIDI historians. Now I wonder how reliable are earlier Greek works. They didn't even know how to record history. Horrible pronunciation of words. Can't say a single word without messing it up. ...
by syam
12 Dec 2017 12:00
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1173535

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

This is fraud of highest level. . . .OMG.. . Look what Avesta says about this so called Harahvaiti, AVESTA: VENDIDAD (English): Fargard 1. 12. The tenth of the good lands and countries which I, Ahura Mazda, created, was the beautiful Harahvaiti29. Thereupon came Angra Mainyu, who is all death, and h...
by syam
12 Dec 2017 11:38
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Short version of the story behind this Harahvaiti, Saraswati and their link to Helmand. . . Our pidi historians say that, saraswati with the name harahvaiti existed in Afghan back in good ol' days. We actually migrated from that place to here. They come to this conclusion by Harahvaiti > Arachosia >...
by syam
12 Dec 2017 10:25
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Indian Saraswati is in the aryavrat. Their Harahvaiti is in their region. In any case seem my reply to periaswamy. You are lying about this Iranian river. Someone already debunked this fake linguistic connection. There are scholars like Kocchar, Thapar, Lommel and Hildebrandt who insist on identify...
by syam
10 Dec 2017 14:52
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Small story about King Baratha. . King Baratha is son of first thirthankar. After Rishabhanatha developed a desire for renunciation, he distributed his kingdom to his hundred sons, of whom Bharata got the city of Vinita (Ayodhya) and Bahubali got the city of Podanapur (Taxila). His coronation was fo...
by syam
10 Dec 2017 14:01
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

If you know something or feel something please blurt it out The birth of Mahavira is mentioned in Kalpa Suthra, which is written after the passing of Mahavira. English translations of it, In that period, in that age lived the Venerable Ascetic Mahavira, the five (most important moments of whose lif...
by syam
10 Dec 2017 11:12
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Something I found here and there. When brahmin starts vedic ritual, first he has to mention the location and time of the ritual. It's very important for any big ritual. It is called sankalpa. This sankalpa has two parts. One is location and another is time. Time tells us about which kalpa, mahayuga,...
by syam
10 Dec 2017 00:56
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

How come we are discussing about only Hindu scriptures. What happened to Jain Agamas?

Aren't they part of history? Their thirthankaras are damn old. Surely they are not aliens.
by syam
09 Dec 2017 10:00
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Lets get this straight. THERE_WERE_NO_ARYANS Read this https://swarajyamag.com/culture/aryans-and-dravidians-an-invention-of-racist-nineteenth-century-scholars I know that, sir. I am talking about our pidi historians. If they want to promote this mythical aryan race, they should atleast have decenc...
by syam
09 Dec 2017 09:45
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

^^However I can post this here: The translation of a Rig Veda verse (10:18) by a Veda scholar versus AIT historian Veda scholar: RV 10:18 For you I heap up this earth and heap it around you; In placing this clod of earth may I not harm you; May the fathers sustain this monument for you; May Yama ma...
by syam
08 Dec 2017 23:40
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Come on. This is not even a trick question. Aryans had a break up in India and some of them left and settled in Iran. They named the river that they settled around in Iran Sarasvati. Since they couldn't pronounce S they used H and hence Haraxavati. If Aryans had break up, that means some of the bra...
by syam
06 Dec 2017 11:19
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

This might be already posted. Sorry if I am making double post.

Astronomy of Satapatha Brahmana:
http://www.insa.nic.in/writereaddata/Up ... _SCKak.pdf

Ok. . This author writes for Swarajya . His name - Subhash Kak. Now only surprise will be him being member here as well.
by syam
28 Sep 2017 13:57
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: The Rohingya Menace
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Re: The Rohingya Menace

I personally thought that this ram madhav guy was the cat's whiskers but he is slowly getting mired in unproductive politics and losing sight of the main goal. He seems to have joined with the PDP and created a $hithole in cashmere after being led by the nose by malsi hardliners. I Guess that power...
by syam
27 Sep 2017 23:17
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: The Rohingya Menace
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Views: 75647

Re: The Rohingya Menace

Karthik S wrote:Image

Apparently there is nobody called Rohingya Hindu. He should know that.
It's title of the article. He copy pasted it.
Ever heard the phrase "miss the forest for the trees". :D
by syam
20 Sep 2017 11:05
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

New stuff to me and I have no reason to doubt what you say. But my effort is on an era that pre-dates Greek history by 2000 to 3000 years. In fact this entire thread starts off from the viewpoint of India prior to 1000 BC The so called Roman empire was built on the ruins of Hindu empire. Historians...
by syam
19 Sep 2017 19:15
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Hannibal's elephants are well known - but the horse debate is critical to the "language spread theory". Where does the elephant fit in? That's supposed to be half pun and half exclamation. I checked two threads. You guys didn't discuss any about Seleucid Empire. This empire had close ties...
by syam
19 Sep 2017 14:48
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

That is very interesting .. Check this one sir, One of his most famous achievements was at the outbreak of the Second Punic War, when he marched an army which included war elephants from Iberia over the Pyrenees and the Alps into Italy. This is from Hannibal wiki. Somehow he got hands on war elepha...
by syam
19 Sep 2017 11:35
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

But the Greeks themselves did not like what Ctesias said and willy-nilly destroyed much of his writings Sir, Greeks did not like Ctesias because he exposes something they tried desperately to hide. Semiramis tried to invade India and failed. But she came back to her Empire and ruled it till her end...
by syam
18 Sep 2017 23:43
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

@shiv ji, I am reading a book written by Dr. Raja Ram Mohan Roy . I found something amazing, Alexander, being impressed with the current report that Semiramis had effected her escape from India with about twenty men and Cyrus with about seven, was ambitious, though aware of the difficulties and dang...
by syam
03 Aug 2017 20:45
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

At the end of the day, history of origin of culture is irrelevant to the lives of the large majority. Most white people for eg, do not give a rat's behind about whether history started in Sumer or Egypt or China. Because whether our long-dead ancestors were heroes or chumps, have ultimately very li...
by syam
03 Aug 2017 18:55
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

@Srijoy.... since we are all scientists, lets explore something different. Suppose India conquered west. Since globalisation is falling like house of cards. Lets assume Ethnic Indians somehow become the sole super power of the world. In this scenario, Ethnic Indians need something to keep the whole ...
by syam
23 Jul 2017 15:48
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Sorry for OT. Last few pages remind me of this old story, In a mother’s womb were two babies. “Do you believe in life after delivery?” one twin asks. “Why, of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later,” the other replies. “Nons...
by syam
22 Jul 2017 23:40
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

During EIC time, they used to pay 1000 pagodas for Oriental Scholars. That was totally big amount.

No wonder we had so many researchers .