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by barath_s
09 Nov 2018 19:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Arihant: News & Discussion
Replies: 359
Views: 99966

Re: INS Arihant: News & Discussion

Yeah, the 'Deep diving into the facts ' article was illogical. No one said water got into the nuclear reactor compartment (strawman), there are missile hatches at the rear of the sub (have to be to launch missiles and load them). At least if you count aft of the sail as rear. (I would not call them ...
by barath_s
09 Nov 2018 15:16
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 2100
Views: 471968

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Agree it's tougher underwater. In fact,there has only been 1 underwater sub-to-sub kill in history. radar is attenuated, as are lasers and other communication, energy-maneovrability theory doesn't apply as much... Torpedoes differ, many have full capabilities such as active sonar,search modes etc of...
by barath_s
09 Nov 2018 14:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Arihant: News & Discussion
Replies: 359
Views: 99966

Re: INS Arihant: News & Discussion

Saar, my bad. Justify is the wrong term. Perhaps obfuscation would be a better term. But the idea that water can enter through a open hatch - during a dive - makes no sense whatsoever. No alarm, no fail safe measure. That is highly improbable. The open hatch story is an excuse. What would you make ...
by barath_s
09 Nov 2018 14:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Arihant: News & Discussion
Replies: 359
Views: 99966

Re: INS Arihant: News & Discussion

Bararth_s, I did not know about the K4 hangfire in Dec 2017. Besides you posted after my post. I vehmently object to your attributing motives to me.. I dint have to be selective of facts. I suggest you apologize. I dont take such things lightly. Ramana Ramana I suggest you go back and re-read. Ther...
by barath_s
09 Nov 2018 00:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 2100
Views: 471968

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Amusement factor aside, it would depend on the mission and other factors. Torpedoes are indeed faster than submarines, but range matters and a nuke sub has unlimited range and energy while a torpedo does not. If you know the range of your opponent's torpedoes you could use your speed to get into ran...
by barath_s
08 Nov 2018 19:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 2100
Views: 471968

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

but can you outrun a torpedo aimed at you? Yes Maybe you an outrun the 35knot FC17 torpedo designed in 1971 and used on the Agosta class subs How about the 80 knot royal navy spearfish torpedo, meant to take out the high speed Alfa submarines ? Or >65 knot max Yu-6 chinese torpedo reverse engineere...
by barath_s
08 Nov 2018 17:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 2100
Views: 471968

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

There are six SSNs right now, in the planning phase. But the high cost involved of maintaining an all SSN fleet requires the Navy to have SSKs as well. The Soryu has many advantages over the Type 209, Kilo and the Scorpene. And India does require SSKs to defend from enemies in their littorals. And ...
by barath_s
08 Nov 2018 16:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Arihant: News & Discussion
Replies: 359
Views: 99966

Re: INS Arihant: News & Discussion

Assuming China is the biggest supporter, one would want one's biggest strategic asset to be present where it could pressure, hurt and deter China, hence somewhere close to Hong Kong or Shanghai. So even with its limited capabilities, Arihant has massive deterrent capabilities. That's extremely far ...
by barath_s
08 Nov 2018 16:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Arihant: News & Discussion
Replies: 359
Views: 99966

Re: INS Arihant: News & Discussion

It is still the world's only multi role submarine until Virginia Payload Modules enter service and that won't carry ballistic missiles. How do you define multi-purpose ? As there are a number of submarines with multiple countries which have multiple roles - power projection (surface attack, cruise ...
by barath_s
08 Nov 2018 15:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Arihant: News & Discussion
Replies: 359
Views: 99966

Re: INS Arihant: News & Discussion

I like C Uday Bhaskar but disagree with his above article. His article is seeing things from a naval perspective and not a national perspective. I would say it is from a strategic perspective. The long range vision of the journey and not the focus on the immediate milestone. PM Modi has declared th...
by barath_s
08 Nov 2018 14:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Arihant: News & Discussion
Replies: 359
Views: 99966

Re: INS Arihant: News & Discussion

Ignorance is bliss. Maiden Test of Undersea K-4 Missile From Arihant Submarine http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2016/apr/09/EXPRESS-EXCLUSIVE-Maiden-Test-of-Undersea-K-4-Missile-From-Arihant-Submarine-921990.html Braggadocio too is bliss. Do you not keep track of the K4 missile development te...
by barath_s
07 Nov 2018 22:30
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Naval LCA - News and Discussion
Replies: 997
Views: 180331

Re: Naval LCA - News and Discussion

Mr Tull, why do we need a ski jump for VTOL jet? Royal Navy has chosen this configuration. I suppose this is to improve the payload and avoid using cats/arrestor wires, which do have some disadvantages in cost and maintenance. It adds significantly to takeoff weight (payload/fuel for range) and to ...
by barath_s
07 Nov 2018 21:51
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Arihant: News & Discussion
Replies: 359
Views: 99966

Re: INS Arihant: News & Discussion

India’s Arihant patrol completion crucial but ‘triad’ not yet complete: C UdayBhaskar. ...The Arihant patrol is a modest but critical first step in demonstrating the operational credibility ... .... This is a domain where verifiable information is scanty but it is understood that China carried out ...
by barath_s
07 Nov 2018 20:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Arihant: News & Discussion
Replies: 359
Views: 99966

Re: INS Arihant: News & Discussion

It is interesting to note that the Navy went with the Amriki classification and designated the Arihant as SSBN -80. There was a discussion in the older thread where some stalwarts (tsarkar-ji?) had argued that the Arihant was neither an SSN nor an SSBN, and was a unique type amongst world navies. S...
by barath_s
29 Jul 2018 14:35
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1132448

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017

The 2+2 meet with the US has been delayed/canceled in light of Iran/CAATSA related issues; multiple deals including the 24 S-60 helicopters have been kept pending on that meet. Is NASAMS-2 also another incentive for that meeting ? Will it progress before or after that meet ? https://timesofindia.ind...
by barath_s
29 Jul 2018 11:02
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
Replies: 4827
Views: 741326

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

So why was team firing so many rounds from M777 despite mfg restrictions? Barrels can be changed. They can be refurbished. Calibration/qualification may need to go beyond the norms or there may be stress tests. The manufacture failure mode for barrel life may be accuracy/precision (electronic fire ...
by barath_s
26 Jul 2018 16:51
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
Replies: 4827
Views: 741326

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

Barrel burst while firing OFB ammo, after the fifth shell in firing sequence came out in 5 pieces. Said to be 3 incident of barrel damage in 4 months last. Initial news reports pointed at ofb ammo. Later there was talk of joint investigative team for deeper investigation. Testing apparently went on....
by barath_s
16 Jul 2018 14:46
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles: News & Discussion
Replies: 3547
Views: 445952

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - August 9, 2014

Norwegian munition manufacturer Nammo revealed at Eurosatory that it is developing a ramjet-assisted, INS/GPS-guided round for 155 mm L52 artillery pieces that will extend the range of precision fires out to 100 km and beyond. Although it would sound like a wonderful idea, this is the usual over ex...
by barath_s
16 Jul 2018 14:28
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles: News & Discussion
Replies: 3547
Views: 445952

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - August 9, 2014

RKumar wrote:FMBT development can't be started as its spec are not written, we are still waiting for a brochure imported and translated :((


Why import one brochure when you can import them all ? Then pick from each of them !
by barath_s
11 Jul 2018 14:36
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Nuclear Submarines -3
Replies: 1432
Views: 199716

Re: Indian Nuclear Submarines -3

The configuration of the new Husky class which will take over after the current Yasen class is complete in the early part of the next decade is v.interesting. Supposed to be smaller and cheaper than the Yasens while equally or more capable, has two VLS modules forward and aft of a very streamlined ...
by barath_s
11 Jul 2018 14:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Nuclear Submarines -3
Replies: 1432
Views: 199716

Re: Indian Nuclear Submarines -3

Los Angeles and French boats have much less power than our Arihant. Something like 27 MW I believe. As someone said, you are confusing MWth and MWe. Los Angeles Class are 165 MWth S6G reactors Los Angeles class is an attack submarine, not a SSBN/boomer like Arihant. Ohio class submarine with S8G220...
by barath_s
11 Jul 2018 12:53
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: INS Arihant (ATV) News and Discussion -2
Replies: 4159
Views: 699619

Re: INS Arihant (ATV) News and Discussion -2

I can confirm that the hydrophone array is totally exposed to water. The cables connecting them are rated for the maximum depth, and enter the pressure hull via special connectors. . In block III virginia class , the passive bow sonar is modified so the individual cables no longer penetrate the pre...
by barath_s
09 Jul 2018 13:09
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Kaveri & Aero-Engine: News & Discussion
Replies: 5004
Views: 964606

Re: Kaveri & aero-engine discussion

There's not been much news on kaveri marine since 2008 except a cryptic message in 2014 . Has Kaveri marine been abandoned (aka deprioritized ) ? Are the Rajput class still candidates or are they likely to go the Ukrainian/ possible JV route for mid-life refits ? The lack of news combined with the a...
by barath_s
27 Jun 2018 13:59
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 3910
Views: 913487

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/defence-ministry-sets-up-committee-to-check-hals-high-bill-for-tejas-jet-5234903/ MOD sets up a comittee to check the High Price quoted for the 1A by HAL This will delay the contract signing by at least a year, per the article. Without a contract, long lead i...
by barath_s
24 Jun 2018 18:23
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: International Naval News & Discussion
Replies: 3400
Views: 489694

Re: International Naval News and Discussion

well they are very large 7000t DDG.....wider in beam than our P15B. they are frigates only if you consider the horizon class a frigate. but the cost still looks very excessive.....1-1.5b would be more reasonable loaded cost. RAND corporation says that Australian governments traditionally pay 30–40%...
by barath_s
24 Jun 2018 18:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: International Naval News & Discussion
Replies: 3400
Views: 489694

Re: International Naval News and Discussion

https://quwa.org/2018/06/18/analysis-the-pakistan-navys-surface-fleet-plans-2/ Earlier Background : Pakistan had bought four Chinee (CSTC)Type 054A multi-mission frigates to be delivered 2021 to replace 4 remaining Royal Navy Type 21 Tariq/babur class ASW/AshW frigates (. the oldest remaining ship (...
by barath_s
24 Jun 2018 12:50
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 4822
Views: 873440

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

We must be be able to integrate our desi eqpt.! If we can do it to Ru and other western systems, why must the US systems be different? In any case our P-8Is have their MAD " stings" which aren't on US -P8s. The P8i uses a foreign MAD; this one https://www.cae.com/media/media-center/docume...
by barath_s
24 Jun 2018 12:31
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: INS Arihant (ATV) News and Discussion -2
Replies: 4159
Views: 699619

Re: INS Arihant (ATV) News and Discussion -2

Eric Leiderman wrote:. To top up this water desalinated water is used,


Also, the crew too, needs fresh water; and are less of a closed system than the power unit. ☺️
Desalination plant or evaporator saves space, weight. The reactor anyway provides power.
by barath_s
24 Jun 2018 12:27
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: INS Arihant (ATV) News and Discussion -2
Replies: 4159
Views: 699619

Re: INS Arihant (ATV) News and Discussion -2

tsarkar wrote:PAYAL


Thanks ! Will read links too
by barath_s
24 Jun 2018 12:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 4822
Views: 873440

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

This purchase and the planned purchase for another 12 P-8Is is just that. To show the Amreekis . It can be a factor, but there is something even simpler. Any time any high level political meeting happens with any country, they/we have to show some achievement. Something signed. So they ruffle throu...
by barath_s
24 Jun 2018 11:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 4822
Views: 873440

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Karan M wrote:Navy is getting choppers? The Indian Navy? Must be a new century.


With indian procurement, you not only don't count your birds until they are hatched, but until they have been flying in your backyard.
by barath_s
24 Jun 2018 11:36
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: MBT Arjun - News and Discussions
Replies: 1820
Views: 291624

Re: MBT Arjun - News and Discussions

I As we've often discussed, the DRDO/ CVRDE should've developed our own 3 crewed MBT to T-72 Where was the army requirement ?. Is the drdo supposed to provide requirements to the army ? Or are they supposed to keep developing tanks without any requirement and the army is supposed to fit the require...
by barath_s
23 Jun 2018 22:39
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: INS Arihant (ATV) News and Discussion -2
Replies: 4159
Views: 699619

Re: INS Arihant (ATV) News and Discussion -2

Some questions from a good old mango man. (Please do not laugh) Is INS Arihant an all-electric drive of mechanical drive ? Will the other ships be all-electric drive of mechanical drive ? Does all-electric drive submarines have electric cells ? I believe that some phoren nuclear submarines also hav...
by barath_s
23 Jun 2018 21:30
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MRCA (Many Rakshaks Choose Aircraft) Contest - Episode III
Replies: 1219
Views: 175018

Re: MRCA (Many Rakshaks Choose Aircraft) Contest - Episode III

US $14 billion [57 airplanes] + US $8 billion [67000 tonne conventionl carrier] = US $22 billion. This number is not for you or me. You left out the cost of the carrier group. A carrier doesn't work in isolation. It needs a covering group of destroyers, cruisers and submarines. Re Izumo, the navy h...
by barath_s
23 Jun 2018 20:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 4347
Views: 732037

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Prashant, Do look up the opening war sequences of Desert Storm and OAF. And had it been so critical to taking down radars, wouldnt the Usaf have ordered some for itself? The USAF and the US Army are bound by Johnson-McConnell agreement of 1966 As per this, most choppers became domain of US Army and...
by barath_s
23 Jun 2018 19:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 4822
Views: 873440

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Can some guru shed light on why we are not going for Ka 28 and Ka 31 ? Extreme procurement dysfunction along with interim ratcheting navy desperation and political dog and pony show. India has a need for 234 (or more) helicopters and there are plans for 111 naval utility helicopters (NUH) and 123 n...
by barath_s
17 Jun 2018 17:56
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 3910
Views: 913487

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

x post from the Navy thread For LCA Navy, we went with a two seater design with the rear cockpit used for avionics & possibly additional fuel. The same design element was used for MiG-29K and possibly carried forward in MiG-35 that takes MiG-29K developments (paid by India) to land based fighte...
by barath_s
02 Jun 2018 14:09
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4070
Views: 799751

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Chinese manufacturer tweeting a short snippet on a collaborative test with 56 unmanned vessels. Swarm tactics will be interesting in future

https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/sta ... 7736885248
by barath_s
02 Jun 2018 14:06
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4070
Views: 799751

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

China Daily reported May 26 on the successful drills that Chinese pilots in J-15 jets had recently conducted. They trained taking off and landing on the Liaoning aircraft carrier at night. Nice visuals

https://sputniknews.com/military/201805 ... t-landing/
by barath_s
26 May 2018 19:33
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.2: News & Discussions - 25 February 2018
Replies: 1082
Views: 229332

Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Philip, every product design starts with a concept. You are advocating complete change of concept with the contradictory notion of 'as possible'. Stealth shaping is usually not done by piecemeal modifications and throwing in another couple of items into the sales pot.. The LCA Mk2 concept design is ...

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