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by samirdiw
20 Oct 2020 16:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

What do we gain by saving China's face? It will result only in the bully trying again a new scheme.
by samirdiw
19 Oct 2020 22:47
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

India does not recognise Taiwan as a separate country, we have signed an agreement to the effect of a 'One China' policy. Besides there are no public overtures towards Taiwan due to its historical position viz Tibet, Ladakh, and Arunachal Pradesh. The KMT exercised the same cartographic liberties a...
by samirdiw
16 Oct 2020 19:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

I have been racking my brains to try to come how the Chini will achieve their objective, if they decide to fire the first shots. How would they convince us to retreat? It is unlikely that they will try to repeat '62. They know we will make some changes to that (e.g. involve the IAF) plus a differen...
by samirdiw
16 Oct 2020 06:19
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

There's no chankaya neeti involved here for plans to not be in open. If public doesn't believe in long term plans or even understand them then they won't be voting for you on long term goal equation. And it's not like India has 100 years. Probability is very low for India to have 100 years as BIF p...
by samirdiw
15 Oct 2020 08:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

The LAC is 3400KM long. We can invade anywhere on the 3400KM LAC, in response to any Chinese action. They want to take over Ladakh region at 15,000 ft and guard it during winter. They are welcome. We will invade at lower altitude at other points on LAC. It is not just going to war. They have to gua...
by samirdiw
04 Oct 2020 20:31
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Well then the best way is to move across the LAC and close the gap with the Chinese and make it difficult for them to use the missiles? Not when dealing with an enemy with PGM. The best way to deal with them would be to prevent detection through deception and camoflage. Is the target can be found a...
by samirdiw
04 Oct 2020 07:48
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1311681683347795974 As some of our retired generals have observed, the PLAGF's current deployments do *not* seem suitable for launching a major offensive. But, the Chinese have brought in a lot of precision guided munitions into theatre & India should be very...
by samirdiw
03 Oct 2020 08:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Kaveri & Aero-Engine: News & Discussion
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Re: Kaveri & Aero-Engine: News & Discussion

Take it with more salt than in the entire Indian Ocean. The French designed Rafale and M88 to keep itsknow how intact. Much before the Rafale had any export successes, the French celebrated the DnD cost as necessary. There is no way they will hand that over to us. Hear hear...the moment i read that...
by samirdiw
30 Sep 2020 23:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Whats the point of spending all this mental effort trying to figure what caused China to do what it is doing? Why does a g@ndu indulge in g@ndugiri? Even if we figure it out what do we do with that information? If our infrastructure is causing them concern, are we going to stop it building roads? I...
by samirdiw
29 Sep 2020 17:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

China does not recognize the so-called Union Territory of Ladakh illegally established by India


If they claim entire Ladakh thats a new development isn't it?.What happened to the 1957 Chou En Lai lAC line then ?
by samirdiw
27 Sep 2020 19:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

... the Chinese will relentlessly pursue Mao's palm + 5 fingers goal across time, and from the Chinese perspective, these incidents should be seen as small incremental efforts that have some kind of rationale, which is irrelevant in the context of the big picture. The effort paid off to some extent...
by samirdiw
23 Sep 2020 18:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Lot of folks are batting for India taking back Aksai Chin or even marching into Lhasa. The GOI has always been clear that is objective is to hold the line @ LAC. For such folks it will obviously be disappointing. Pankajji, You are right its good for the Govt to have objectives. All we are suggestin...
by samirdiw
23 Sep 2020 04:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

RM has already said what Chinese say and do are different. In that case why dont we just have the principle of saying "No" to anything the Chinese ask and see where they will go. Winter is anyways setting in. By now we would have figured out that any proposal from their side is only to imp...
by samirdiw
23 Sep 2020 00:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

If a short border war, then Aksai Chin is fair play. In a proper full scale war, then china should no more be having any border with India. Tibet should be independent with the region near Manasarover fully under India. And if war is forced on us when we not fully prepared, even then, our war, shou...
by samirdiw
22 Sep 2020 17:46
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Guess with the winter setting in, if they want to teach us a lesson they will do it now. If they want to grab land and push us off the mountains they will do it in April. Gives us 6 months to prepare. What can be done during this period since road construction cannot possibly continue?
by samirdiw
17 Sep 2020 17:47
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

If the Chinese are playing music and propaganda on loud speakers what is stopping us from returning the favour. If the Chinese does it, most probably their soldiers are susceptible to such non-sense. It might be unsoldierly but no reason India should carry any moral baggage Must have the Tibetians ...
by samirdiw
16 Sep 2020 19:17
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Expecting Han Chinese soldiers to stay back and survive winters, challenging a hardened Indian army, for whom such tenures are routine is almost impossible. It is for this reason that China is not desirous of dragging the current standoff into the winter. India, on the other hand is in no rush to e...
by samirdiw
13 Sep 2020 18:18
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

abhik wrote:Why repost this fake news?


Apologies, i was not aware that news24online posts fake news. Must have missed the verification earlier in the chain.
by samirdiw
13 Sep 2020 18:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Folks were dismissing Taiwan declaring freedom in case of a long Chinese Indian war. There is no guarantee ofcourse but it usually is the case that when one stands up to the bully then the others also stand up. There is no guarantee that US will join...after a while. There is no guarantee that Taiwa...
by samirdiw
13 Sep 2020 10:59
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

hanumadu wrote:Has anybody fought a war with a 3000 km logistic tail against a strong adversary before
Thats the whole point. There is no way China should be able to hold on to 100% Tibet without an ultrapacifist foe.
by samirdiw
11 Sep 2020 08:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

He is also believed to have told Wang that the Indian Army never tried to transgress the LAC, refuting a frequent Chinese allegation. This bullshit has not stopped? The Chinese never apologize when they enter any area what they consider is their territory, this side of LAC or that side. Then why is...
by samirdiw
09 Sep 2020 22:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

In my opinion, China initially tried to take land the easy way and expected us to be passive. True to their expectations we were initially passive and too eager for talks. Luckily while we didnt counter attack, their reasons for moving in were not met so far - Stopping road construction (probably wo...
by samirdiw
09 Sep 2020 19:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

I find the entire idea of Chinese backstabbing flawed. If the enemy gets us in the back, it is either because we haven't been paying attention or are stuck on a sense of chivalry which has no place in modern warfare. The current or next war is certainly not going to be like the Mahabharata, which b...
by samirdiw
07 Sep 2020 20:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2428
Views: 405999

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020- Part 2

In case of further conflict, is taking G219 and G318 through their length a viable option to capture and hold before winter sets in? Too many benefits to count if we are successfu and not too far away that we cannot supply the troops.
by samirdiw
04 Sep 2020 00:46
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Report: Indian Army has deployed a mix of armoured and mechanized elements at Depsang Plains and another combat group at Chumar to counter any PLA retaliatory moves. Chumur shouldnt even be a concern for India except as a point of attack. Shouldnt we attack this area from 3 side and then keep it? S...
by samirdiw
30 Aug 2020 03:23
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Democracies I would say is only for Indian like not any other. We like to maintain statusquo. This mindset has cost us dearly for the last couple of thousand years. Democracy is just a outer covering to this thought process which far preceeds 1950. It is time we recognize this shortcoming and make ...
by samirdiw
13 Aug 2020 18:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

In my simple opinion, If we are looking to completely make a wedge between the US and China/Pak there is no other better opportunity than this. China/Pak is already against us. Why not force US hand? 1. Britain govt is pro-India or at least neutral 2. France is on our side 3. Russia still not fully ...
by samirdiw
04 Aug 2020 23:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Trying to achieve the status quo by any means, includes NOT blocking Chinese patrols to their claim lines! Otherwise, it would be a change in the status quo by us. Regimes like the Chins don't care about Moral ascendency. It is a plain land grab and power play. It is our MEA Babus types, which unfo...
by samirdiw
04 Aug 2020 19:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

The only value of history is what it can teach us. It seems like that we in India refuse to learn from it. If the way I used to learn history in school is any indication i.e. just learning "who did what in what year?" instead of "why it happened and what could have overcome it?" ...
by samirdiw
02 Aug 2020 17:48
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

One thing that never fails to give me a chuckle is how India gets chapatified on both sides. An inferior pakiland does whatever it pleases and there should be no war because apparently we've got much more to lose so it's not worth it. okay, understandable. But then the chicoms also do whatever they...
by samirdiw
25 Jul 2020 19:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Our money is more well spent in getting them to fight in at a closer range than by giving them targets at a longer range. For this we need to neutralize their artillery first by getting more longer range weapons. Their entire battle exercises and superiority mindset is from their wheeled artillery a...
by samirdiw
21 Jul 2020 18:04
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 968082

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Indian foothold on DBO/Depsang plain keeps alive, from the Chinese POV, the threat to G219. The completion of the DSDBO road lends an urgency to the Chinese effort to get a grip on the situation at the earliest. Didn't Amit Shah say that we will be taking back Aksai Chin? Assuming that he is talkin...
by samirdiw
20 Jul 2020 23:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Views: 968082

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020



General Bakshi on the importance of creating our own action on the border and not just reacting. Any adversary will keep poking per him if the opponent is only reactionary like we have been.
by samirdiw
20 Jul 2020 03:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

This is only possible due to our fearfullness (yes) to attack first. Otherwise having our troops close to the border would be good if we plan to attack. So Chinese are making a mistake but we convert that to a brilliant move (like in chess) due to our unwillingness to take the tricky but right move...
by samirdiw
15 Jul 2020 08:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Some good info from Nitin Gokhale on IA tabletop exercise in 2018. https://stratnewsglobal.com/how-lessons-from-2018-exercise-will-help-army-tackle-chinese-moves/ It had concluded that China would indulge in ‘hit and run’ tactics against India to test its own forces and also map India’s response to...
by samirdiw
07 Jul 2020 08:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

It's not that I am saying that liberation of Tibet or GB will be impossible. A $10 trillion economy can make many things,which seem fanciful today, come within our grasp. Mukesh, thanks very much for the wonderful analysis. Whether that $150 Billion is on the lower side or higher is not the point. ...
by samirdiw
05 Jul 2020 19:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

The Chinese action in Ladakh was to prevent India from joining with other countries bilaterally or in international forums as part of any retaliation for the coronavirus crap they pulled off. The land grabbing is just a way to forcefully influence India to stay off. Giving up the land without quid p...
by samirdiw
05 Jul 2020 08:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Views: 968082

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

IFF India wants to really go all out, we must go kinetic in Arunachal. If G219 is cut off there, Lhasa and AC will be impossible to hold on to. When that happens China will quickly ditch its NFU. 60 4MT City Busters would have made sure that China sticks to its NFU and not make a sound of intimidat...
by samirdiw
05 Jul 2020 05:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Views: 968082

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Even Dalai Lama is only seeking autonomy there why should we bother. This is the strategic mistake in our thinking. We should bother because its in our long term interest to keep the Chinese as far away from this part of the world. The Dalai Lama and some other Lamas have nothing to do with this. W...

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