Bharat Rakshak

kgoan

Tim, thanks. But there are two issues that don't seem to be clear. Specifically, give the Chinese help, It may certainly be true that they may have warheads designed to fit the Chinese missiles. But: what about the N Korean ones? They would need to change the physical charateristics of the warhead. ...

kgoan

Calvin: I'd suggest elements of both. The Chinese handing over blueprints and the Paks being able to manufacture them are two entirely different things. The thing to remember is to view the nuke stuff from an *engineering* and manufacturing angle, not a science one. At least in terms of the Paks, wh...

kgoan

Calvin, not entirely. Well, maybe explicitly now, but it was implied some time back. The NYT carried an article some time back where they said that the Pak nukes were based on the Chinese design. In fact, the CIA even managed to obtain a copy of the plans and then *tested* the plans and confirmed th...

kgoan

Folks, there's a very interesting point that I just realised we've missed: China's long term strategy seems to have been rolled up like a carpet. Recall how there were reports from US and Japanese strategists that China's plan was to "dissipate-US-strength" by ensuring the US had a multipl...

kgoan

Raj: Yes, but the question is why? According to the reports, the Pak-Iran nuke connection was as late as 2000. Yet everything stuffed up for between them post 9-11. According to B Raman, after 9-11, the Pakistanis agreed to work against the Iranians for the US. It's not clear if the the Paks volunte...

kgoan

Agreed, thank you gentlemen. But did folk notice the one point that jumps up and grabs you by the throat in Mush's little venting moment? Pak-Iran relations are cactus. Irreparably, and probably for decades. The Iranians will never forget Mush's statement. Those of you who know anything about persia...

kgoan

Sunil, Palones referring to Cowasjee's article in 1994 in which he details the Beg-Durrani offer to Nawaz on the drug deals. Cowasjees sort of reprised his 1994 article here: http://www.dawn.com/weekly/cowas/20020721.htm Note the really interesting thing: The protagonist even then, was the very vers...

kgoan

Also, the question is whether we can link Beg or Lt Gen Durrani (the Saudi ambassador one) to BCCI - especially Beg. The Pak trucking mafia *must* somehow be linked to it - they were after all the primary beneficiaries of the Taliban. BTW, do look up Nugan-Hand, it's worth the trouble. The following...

kgoan

Sunil: BCCI is stuff we need to *very* carefull about. Seriously. I think the links go quite deep. At a guess, I'm willing to bet that BCCI came into prominence when the Nugan Hand Bank (look that up and who it's directors were, you'll see what I mean), went belly-up and when the action moved from S...

kgoan

Bingo! Thank you gentlemen, that theres gold! Because while the report doesn't say much, that statement about the Paks looking into BCCI records, that's the giveaway! There is a lot (and I mean a *lot*) of stuff on BCCI around, so to look into it is really hard. But what that statement about the Pak...

kgoan

The body language between Xerox and Mush in this photo, posted by JRJ above, is *very* instructive.

kgoan

Suraj, SSridhar: Many thanks. There's some stuff on those links I hadn't seen before. Good stuff. But folks, please also keep an eye out for anything *new*. i.e. Any *recent* stuff, (meaning anything written in "reputable"** media since the Xerox stuff blew up in Paks face), that mentions ...

kgoan

Folks, a favour please: If you find any links to the BCCI (Bank of Credit and Commerce International) scandal within the context of Pak prolif, please post it here, in *full* if necessary. This is vital! If the financing was done through BCCI, then there will be links that go from Pak through the dr...

kgoan

Interesting: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6915-2004Feb2.html I hear a brushing sound and the flap-flap of carpets being lifted. . . . President Bush will appoint [a commission] to investigate the failures of prewar intelligence on Iraq will also review the CIA's misjudgments about ...

kgoan

BTW folks: On a preliminary basis, I don't see the need to get overly excited or optimistic. (Sorry JUmrao-ji, but hold the black label just yet). Specifically, a lot of the drama *seems* to be driven by Xerox's enemies within Pak itself - especially the PAEC folk who, it seems, really loathe him fo...

kgoan

Ramana, things are moving to fast to come to any firm conclusion as yet. At the moment, it's simpler to just read the various reports comming out, and leave the collating and pattern-matcing for later. However, it would be worth keeping a couple of points in mind: Gorilla trap >> Can anyone seriousl...

kgoan

2 billion? Geez, no wonder Xerox got dumped on the shaft. See, with $2 billion in the bank, quite clearly the dude was hoarding and *not* sharing with the rest of the 40 (or how ever many) thieves. After all, if you were a Pakee (figure of speech - no insult intended to any :eek: ), or if you were a...

kgoan

I quite like RR's article. If his sources are inside Pak, then it's clearly possible to say that BR's view on the dodge the Paks have hit on to get them out of this mess is in fact correct. Now the question is: who's gonna buy it? Other than all the S Asia experts, the US State Dept and the non-prol...

kgoan

Calvin: Definitely fishy. But, the nuke angle may not be so straight forward. Recall the N Koreans claim, and the US seems to believe, that the NKoreans do have nukes which are uranium based. Q: Did the Iran-Pak relation sour when the Iranians realised the Paks/NKoreans sold them a lemon? Or when th...

kgoan

Also, something else thats a little curious: Looking through the news reports on the Pak scientists being "debriefed", where do they come from: i.e. Are there any associated with PAEC or only KRL? I can't say for sure, but it seems to be all KRL people so far. If the hatchets being buried ...

kgoan

Folks: Do you remember Sunil starting that thread on "How WMD prolif fit into Paks nuke strategy" in January of last year? The thread was quite short, but I think quite instructive. Some of the questions asked then are now being answered openly- and as usual, the "new" answers in...

kgoan

R; The Iran prolif most probably happened during Beg's time. Matter of fact, it was Beg's attitude to Iran that p!ssed the US enough for them to back BB to drop him. There was a fair degree of Pak-Iran bhai-bhai during Beg's turn as el-supremo in Pak land. And it remains to be seen whether the US sl...

kgoan

JEM, R:

Keep in mind that Margolis has been a visiting "scholar" at Madam Mazaris P.I.S.S.

kgoan

>>India used to rightly call this "nuclear apartheid"

Gawds above. Blow a trumpet someone, and save that article! Eric "I-love-Pathans" Margolis has actually said that India did something right!!!

Lordy, the times, are surely a'changin'.

kgoan

Hey folks, we keep mentioning Iran, N Korea and Libya, but for the sake of completeness and making sure every lurker knows Pak perfidity, lets keep to the fully documented list eh? A few months before the invasion of Iraq Saddam Hussein submitted a 10,000-page dossier to the UN containing a plethora...

kgoan

BTW: For all the "shock-horror" tripe in the west about the Libyan connection, check out what Seymour Hersh said back in Feb 2003 in an NPR interview. SY HERSH: Absolutely. But you know, let me give you another-- theory. Why do you think Pakistan has only helped North Korea with nuclear we...

kgoan

The Paks spent oodles of time and money denying the facts. Now that they aren't deniable anymore, a possible new attempt to wheedle of the hook: Individual violations of N-control rules By Shakil Shaikh ISLAMABAD: As comprehensive and intensive investigations got underway to pinpoint those who stole...

kgoan

Ditto. But must say that I don't think Acosta made his case for artillery being the sole differentiator in *future* mountain wars. From the Anaconda description, the real problem with PGM's seemed to be US response time from call to release and the CEP for the JDAMS. If those were improved, and loit...

kgoan

ROTFL! Geez, don't you feel sorry for the Saleems of the world?

kgoan

In this weeks The Friday Times , Oct 31- Nov 6, 2003, Siddiqa the former Director of Pak Naval Research takes a pot-shot at Mazari's Kargil tripe and, very nicely, does so by situating it in a wider context. Of course, Mazari being Mazari, her response when she strikes back should be quite interesti...

kgoan

Got to agree with TSJ. :eek: Not much chance** of Saudia getting Pak nukes - not because the Paks would be sensible (matter of fact this is exactly the sort of "tactically brilliant" move they're famous for) - but because the Saudi's risk the possibility of the US cutting the throats of al...

kgoan

For those interested, the US experience in Iraq is being looked at by the National Defense magazine . One peculiar development seen in the Iraq war was the presence, throughout the theater, of U.S. military teams led by 35 officers from the Joint Forces Command. Their sole job was to observe the war...

kgoan

>> Executive Council We'll never know. Nor will anyone else. Formal declaratory aspects are political tools . Actual operational aspects are the bits that give the political tools their meaning and the nation it's deterrence. It'll be lotsa fun to speculate**, but if we (or anyone else!) actually di...

kgoan

>>Can u guys write equally well about Test Cricket, I wonder???

Don't matter does it. Sucking up to the admins works just as well. Cricket after all is banned. :p

kgoan

Good grief Johann: Reading between the lines there, it almost seems to imply that 9-11 was merely "collateral damage" from an internal Saudi fight! Or: Mush and the Paks taking advantage of an internal Saudi schisms to push a 9-11 agenda for . . . ??? Folks: Is it possible we've been blind...

kgoan

Man. . .this cross-posting is getting annoying, anyway: >> but who is going to ask such a question. Sunil, I'm kinda thinking that the question was already asked and answered. The worry is the answer that the US came up with. . .that's the real issue here, innit? TSJ: The bombing of the French sub f...

kgoan

Originally posted by TSJones:
Hey, no fair! If yer gonna quote me you need to translate it. I claim right to self defense.

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TSJ, different issue . . . not against you at all . . . Mir was "Zia-ed".

kgoan

R, thanks for the link: So the Pak, Saudia, al-Qaeda link is not only known, to the US but the US has chosen to ignore it. Interesting to note that Mush promoted Mir to "untouchable" status, meaning that the only way to deal with the SOB was to "Zia" him. Couple of points: 1. Doe...

kgoan

Johann, thanks for that post. Do you have a comment on the following: From what I understand so far there seems to some sort of "civil conflict" (civil war is too strong) in Saudia, specifically in the Hijaz region which takes in Mecca and Medina. It seems to me that the Wahabbi brand of I...

kgoan

N, perhaps we ought to go easy on "daisy-cuttering" the Yemenis just yet! :) Johann: cCould you explain what this "Yemen" business you're talking about. There is a difference between "Yemen" and "Yemen i ". Example: 1. The majority of the hijackers came from t...

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