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by srai
30 Nov 2009 02:45
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1480188

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

The 3rd P-15A will only join the navy in 2013-14. It takes a ridiculous amount of time for MDL to make a ship. If it was a Pvt sector shipyard it would have been shut down by now. 1st P-15B' won't see the light of the day till 2018 if MDL starts now, so how will IN have 10 destroyers? Kashins will ...
by srai
30 Nov 2009 02:32
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1480188

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

"quote="vavinash"...I for one don't believe 7 destroyers are enough for IN. IN needs 10-12 minimum for its needs. Its high time P-15B numbers were hiked up to 6.../quote" IN will have around 10 destroyers: 3 P15, 3 P15A, and 4 P15B. But you are right. IN should think of ordering...
by srai
29 Nov 2009 23:49
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1480188

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

vavinash wrote:I for one don't believe 7 destroyers are enough for IN. IN needs 10-12 minimum for its needs. Its high time P-15B numbers were hiked up to 6.
IN will have around 10 destroyers: 3 P15, 3 P15A, and 4 P15B. But you are right. IN should think of ordering 6 of the P15Bs.
by srai
29 Nov 2009 23:45
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1480188

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

... what I wanted to say was : given the kashin's relatively secondary status in the IN in terms of AD (after the P15 and the krivaks) what it already has suffices for its role. the shtil-1 though of a much later generation doesn't offer that huge an improvement capability wise (namely both the SA-...
by srai
29 Nov 2009 13:11
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1480188

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

CGI of P-15A ... IMO, this needs to be on BR page for the Kolkata class:
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by srai
29 Nov 2009 12:06
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1480188

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

... The kashins have the same SAM's as they were launched with right? Only brahmos was added. Yes 32 km is pretty small range for SAM but we will have to see when the krivaks will get the Barak-2. Is there any plan to get 3 more krivaks or was it dropped in favour of P-17a's? ... If the 7 P-17As, 3...
by srai
28 Nov 2009 06:26
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA news and discussion
Replies: 2897
Views: 1076575

Re: LCA news and discussion

SagarP wrote:Carrying Missiles on maiden flight....shows confidence....Kudos to all involved!!
When has a LCA not flown with those two R-73 dummy missiles? Those two missiles seem to be regulars for most flight tests. I've yet to see LCA pictures without those dummy R-73 missiles.
by srai
27 Nov 2009 04:54
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military
Replies: 3954
Views: 1896841

Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

India's Border Security Force (BSF) soldiers patrol near the international border with Pakistan at Sir Creek, Gujarat. Picture taken on November 25, 2009. ... http://i46.tinypic.com/xc1936.jpg ... It looks like the BSF 8-man section consists of one Carl Gustav with 2 extra reloads and 7 riflemen ar...
by srai
25 Nov 2009 09:38
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation
Replies: 3926
Views: 1273008

Re: Indian Military Aviation

I think the reason is 'capacity'. The BBJ may not be able to take the full executive entourage. IIRC, the call sign for the PM's plane is always Air India 1 when outside Indian airspace. Within India, it goes under IAF control. No idea on call sign. The president's helo had call sign Pratap-1 when ...
by srai
24 Nov 2009 03:29
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA news and discussion
Replies: 2897
Views: 1076575

Re: LCA news and discussion

Absolute Losers! - If only they had decided this much earlier and shown confidence in inducting the LCA-MK1 as a replacement for the Mig-21's! We would not have so much of "fighting" (if I can use the word loosely) between the IAF and DRDO. And the LCA trials and tests could probably have...
by srai
24 Nov 2009 03:24
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA news and discussion
Replies: 2897
Views: 1076575

Re: LCA news and discussion

Search for Tejas engine nears its end. Decision likely before March 2010, price will determine winner. ... DRDO’s Chief Controller of Aeronautics, Dipankar Banerjee says, two crucial factors will determine the winner: which engine fits into the Tejas with minimal re-engineering; and which one works...
by srai
23 Nov 2009 23:49
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: C-17s for the IAF?
Replies: 3924
Views: 753217

Re: C-17s for the IAF?

vishnu.nv wrote:How many IL-76 we do have?

The BR quotes 28, wiki -40 ( including 6 IL-78MKI and 3 for Phalcons) hence 31, recent news articles post numbers such as 23, 26 .....
What is the exact number?
If you look at BR IAF fleet page:
15 IL76s
6 IL76MKI
1 IL76 Phalcon
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Total: 22
by srai
23 Nov 2009 23:46
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: C-17s for the IAF?
Replies: 3924
Views: 753217

Re: C-17s for the IAF?

MRTA The MRTA project with Russia appears to be a replacement for AN32s , not IL-76s. Well ... the MTA can transport between 15-20 tons of cargo ... so in the same category as C130s. IAF down the road may buy a handful (~12) of new gen light transport a/c as well in the 5k to 7k class. Some forward...
by srai
23 Nov 2009 11:39
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1480188

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

^^^ IMO, the ideal number for orders of a new type is around 6 ships (or half the number planned for of that new type). For example, if IN is planning for 12 of a new type, then it must order at least 6 in the first batch because there will be design limitations (based on know hows of today) on how ...
by srai
22 Nov 2009 06:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA News and Discussion
Replies: 3260
Views: 894136

Re: MRCA News and Discussion

Some interesting tit-bits on Rafale dogfights with F14/F15/F16/F18/Harrier/Mirage-2000 from Rafale > Publications' "FoxThree" magazine: FoxThree n°10 on page 14: Obvious advantage During their stay, each pilot flew several missions every day and, for all Mirage 2000 and F-16 aircrews invol...
by srai
22 Nov 2009 06:03
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA News and Discussion
Replies: 3260
Views: 894136

Re: MRCA News and Discussion

Rafale publications http://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/defense/rafale/publications.html?L=1 This is on the 8th publication ( Fox Three n°8 ) on page 8: It can climb to 40,000 feet in under two minutes and accelerate very rapidly to supersonic speed. More significantly, it can supercruise in dry po...
by srai
22 Nov 2009 05:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA News and Discussion
Replies: 3260
Views: 894136

Re: MRCA News and Discussion

Rafale publications http://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/defense/rafale/publications.html?L=1 One of the advantages Rafale has in the MRCA contest is that it can make a direct comparison with the Mirage-2000, which the IAF loves very much. You see these comparisons in the above publications. For exa...
by srai
22 Nov 2009 04:47
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA News and Discussion
Replies: 3260
Views: 894136

Re: MRCA News and Discussion

It was UAE F16 Block 60 that did field trials right? Because it is the base for F-16IN. Well in the latest aviationweek check 6 program they mention how the UAE is frustrated over many bugs and problems on the B60. http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckB...
by srai
22 Nov 2009 04:32
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: C-17s for the IAF?
Replies: 3924
Views: 753217

Re: C-17s for the IAF?

This C-130J article gives an example of how long it takes to reach "independent" full operational capability for a new aircraft type. India’s Lockheed Martin C-130J Super Hercules Airlifter This is India’s first experience with C-130s so the package being provided by the U.S. government is...
by srai
22 Nov 2009 04:22
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: C-17s for the IAF?
Replies: 3924
Views: 753217

Re: C-17s for the IAF?

http://www.financialexpress.com/news/Centre-okay-with-Boeing-aircraft-to-replace-ageing-IL-76-fleet/544262/ Centre okay with Boeing aircraft to replace ageing IL-76 fleet ... Initially, the IAF will place an order for 10 C-17s through the US government's foreign military sales (FMS) route, and may ...
by srai
20 Nov 2009 21:37
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 2936
Views: 1039624

Re: Indian Missile Technology Discussion

Proof Akash is only command guided and not SARH http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/media/12168-4/DSC03909.JPG There is no SARH equipment onboard the missile, only radio proximity fuse (RPF) and receiver antenna. Edited - looks like incorrect picture. I'll search for the correct one and repost. Here's a ...
by srai
20 Nov 2009 07:41
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 2936
Views: 1039624

Re: Indian Missile Technology Discussion

... Yes the targeted aircraft won't be able to cue the ARM missile but it will give itself away to HARPY like system, IIRC PRC also has plenty of. Also the enemy aircraft can simply fly out of Akash's engagement window, Israeli pilots exploited the range weakness of SA-6 in Yom Kippur conflict. Pla...
by srai
20 Nov 2009 04:47
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 2936
Views: 1039624

Re: Indian Missile Technology Discussion

Why is command guidance vulnerable to saturation attacks ? A single Akash battery with a single Rajendra radar can attack 4 targets simultaneously and track 64. From published max range and service cieling and speed of the missile, the missile attacking its outer envelope has a flight time of 60 se...
by srai
18 Nov 2009 03:38
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 2936
Views: 1039624

Re: Indian Missile Technology Discussion

^^^ Dr. Prahlada, Chief Controller R&D (SI) and DS Interview (The Week Feb. 17, 2008) DRDO Akash Medium Altitude Surface-to-Air Missile System Based on this interview and other public info bits, we can make certain assumptions: * 2 missiles are assigned per target (one as a backup or second shot...
by srai
17 Nov 2009 02:54
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 2936
Views: 1039624

Re: Indian Missile Technology Discussion

Hi...Anybody who has any doubt about Akash Missile system.....check out this interview of Dr. Prahlada. http://www.drdo.org/dpi/prahlada_interview.html Particularily useful for newbies....working of Akash system has been explained in simplest terms possible. Thanks Good find but this is at a pretty...
by srai
14 Nov 2009 16:01
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 2936
Views: 1039624

Re: Indian Missile Technology Discussion

Python and Derby are both air-to-air missiles. They are effectively being used as short-medium range SAMs in SPYDER. In the similar manner what if we try to use Akash as a long range(heavy) AAM. It weighs around 700kg and should not be of such a problem for heavier type aircraft. Though not in curr...
by srai
14 Nov 2009 04:23
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 2936
Views: 1039624

Re: Indian Missile Technology Discussion

srai: 1 Akash group = 2 squadrons = 4 batteries = 16 launchers = 48 missiles (96 including spares) So, for a total of 7 groups, the max number of missiles = 336 (672 including spares). Your count is twice mine. Are you stating that for each launcher, there are 9 spare missiles in addition to the 3 ...
by srai
13 Nov 2009 23:41
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 2936
Views: 1039624

Re: Indian Missile Technology Discussion

Army warms up to Akash missile Quote: The IAF’s order last year for two Akash squadrons — dismissed by sceptics as a face-saving burial for the Akash programme — has just been doubled with a fresh IAF order for 16 more launchers that will be stationed in northeast India. And now, Business Standard ...
by srai
13 Nov 2009 04:04
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1480188

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

So it looks like 2010 for Barak NG (IN version) and 2012 for Barak-8 (IAF version). It is likely IA wants its own modifications as well; hence, the 2017 time frame. Or that IA will have to wait for its turn at the production run since IAF has ordered around 9 squadrons. From the IA's order amount o...
by srai
12 Nov 2009 03:23
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1480188

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

Israel has signed a $1.1 billion contract to supply an upgraded tactical air defence system to India, with delivery expected by 2017, an Israeli official said on Monday. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/5212849.cms Meaning that P-15A cannot be operational before 2017 or even later (k...
by srai
10 Nov 2009 04:01
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA News and Discussion
Replies: 3260
Views: 894136

Re: MRCA News and Discussion

... If you win MRCA, you will win many small orders without much efforts. A similar example is SU-30, got many orders after MKI. It will also be cheaper for you to enhance it as money and requirements will be coming from two different nations and geo-graphical places which will help it to improve m...
by srai
08 Nov 2009 12:53
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: C-17s for the IAF?
Replies: 3924
Views: 753217

Re: Indian Military Aviation

This gives the cost of A400M ... and it comes out to be Euro 100 million unit cost with around Euro 200 million 30-Year life cycle cost. http://www.airbusmilitary.com/effectiveness.html A fleet of 50 A400M airlifters represents an acquisition cost of 5bn-Euros and a 30-year total LCC of 10bn-Euros. ...
by srai
08 Nov 2009 12:32
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: C-17s for the IAF?
Replies: 3924
Views: 753217

Re: Indian Military Aviation

Adding fuel to fire .. :lol: How about the Airbus A-400? Good specs ... in the size of IL-76 payload capacity. http://www.airbusmilitary.com/standards.html It can even be quickly converted to an air-to-air refueling tanker! Performance A400M has been designed to provide high strategic mission effic...
by srai
08 Nov 2009 10:38
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 2936
Views: 1039624

Re: Indian Missile Technology Discussion

Army warms up to Akash missile The IAF’s order last year for two Akash squadrons — dismissed by sceptics as a face-saving burial for the Akash programme — has just been doubled with a fresh IAF order for 16 more launchers that will be stationed in northeast India. And now, Business Standard has acc...
by srai
08 Nov 2009 10:19
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: C-17s for the IAF?
Replies: 3924
Views: 753217

Re: Indian Military Aviation

... Did somebody say that India has only <20 active IL-76s? 2 people. I don't know how reliable they are or if one is just parroting the other, but here you go: Anantz http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5054&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=760#p765542 srai http://forums.b...
by srai
06 Nov 2009 03:00
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: C-17s for the IAF?
Replies: 3924
Views: 753217

Re: Indian Military Aviation

To add to this, C-17s won't be entering into IAF service until after 2015 when factoring the time it takes to negotiate/ink a deal, 3 year production start time , and couple of years it takes to reach FOC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-17_Globemaster_III In July 2006 a fixed price contract was awa...
by srai
06 Nov 2009 01:57
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: C-17s for the IAF?
Replies: 3924
Views: 753217

Re: Indian Military Aviation

quote="srai"... There are only 15 IL-76s left in the IAF as of today, and by the time a C-17 deal gets done and inducted into the IAF, the IL-76 will be ready for retirement. ...quote ... Should spares become more freely available in the future for the Il-76's there is no reason why they ...
by srai
05 Nov 2009 15:50
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: C-17s for the IAF?
Replies: 3924
Views: 753217

Re: Indian Military Aviation

There are only 15 IL-76s left in the IAF as of today, and by the time a C-17 deal gets done and inducted into the IAF, the IL-76 will be ready for retirement. ... ... Should spares become more freely available in the future for the Il-76's there is no reason why they wouldn't be able to complement ...
by srai
05 Nov 2009 04:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: C-17s for the IAF?
Replies: 3924
Views: 753217

Re: Indian Military Aviation

... I agree with Aditya, the IAF wants C-17 to complement the IL-76 fleet in service, to increase the IAF, airlift capability. I don't think this is true. Initially, there maybe an overlap as the IL-76s are slowly phased out. But by the end of next decade (2020), IAF's strategic lift fleet will onl...
by srai
05 Nov 2009 03:56
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 843530

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

@Mody: The army should be made to order a further 500 nos. of Arjun's and then partner with DRDO to design the next generation Arjun that will be ready by 2020 at the latest and be the tank of the future. Amen to that. But I guess the timeline proposed by DRDO for Arjun MK II is lesser. 5 years??? ...