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by ramana
12 Apr 2002 04:34
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Lost City found off the Mahabalipuram coast
Replies: 86
Views: 65356

Re: Lost City found off the Mahabalipuram coast

Narayan What myth are they talking about? Sai the same BBC page has this link: Lost city 'could rewrite history' And this one: http://www.india-atlantis.org/ Harsh I put your idea about the Mahabharat War and the ref. to Arjuna's penance together and blows the mind away. All this AIT is hogwash.
by ramana
09 Apr 2002 05:10
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Kohinoor and the Queen
Replies: 34
Views: 31701

Re: Kohinoor and the Queen

From The Telegraph, 4/9/2002.... FIFTH COLUMN / LAST QUEEN OF THE RAJ BY SUNANDA K. DATTA-RAY Not inappropriately, the crown on the coffin of Britain’s Queen Mother flaunted the Koh-i-Noor — she was, after all, Empress of India, and the last one at that. But the title ended in 1947 with Lord Listowe...
by ramana
21 Mar 2002 05:14
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Indian Road Development
Replies: 282
Views: 135953

Re: Indian Road Development

Ind Exp reports: PM’s plan for village roads takes IIT route --------------------------- NEW DELHI, MARCH 20: The prime minister’s pet rural roads scheme has some unusual travelling companions — professors from the Indian Institutes of Technology, from Regional Engineering Colleges and other governm...
by ramana
08 Feb 2002 22:43
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 82751

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

Raj and Arun, In Wings of Fire Dr. Kalam says that a solid first stage weighing ~37 tons and ~ 2.8m dia would serve all Indian needs and that it was not authorized to date(of publisihing I guess). If the A-III is two stage as suggested by print edition of Ind Today I submit that is the first stage t...
by ramana
06 Feb 2002 07:36
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 82751

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

The extended range Agni, Dr. V.K. Aatre was talking about is probably the A-III.
by ramana
05 Feb 2002 21:04
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 82751

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

This lack of fins on the RV could mean this is a new design? Also Dr. Pillai talks of improvements in manouverability. Are we seeing a new concept in RV control? Have they changed from the hot gas system used before- High Altitude Engine(HAE)? The first A-I flight in 1989(?) did not have fins and wa...
by ramana
04 Feb 2002 02:33
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 82751

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

Has anyone seen the pictures of the very first Agni-I in 1989? I would like to see if there are any comparisons.
by ramana
03 Feb 2002 04:23
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 82751

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

Frontline article on Agni-I : The significance of Agni-I By T.S.R Subramanian. Good read.
by ramana
31 Jan 2002 03:33
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 82751

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

Here goes!!! --------------- The K. Santhanam article on Agni test firing in Times of India and the IDSA website is very illuminating from political and technical aspects. First the political aspects. The decision was the result of a discussion on the need to have a intermediary range vehicle betwee...
by ramana
31 Jan 2002 02:10
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 82751

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

The Prithvi has larger signature as it does not separte from the vehicle. Kapich!
by ramana
31 Jan 2002 00:37
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 82751

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

Umrao jaan, The arming of Prithvi takes the wind out of the premeptive strike methodology of TSP. It means the MND is on Agni series only. So no one can claim mistake boss! I was always wondering how they will square the circle of Prithivi and the MND. Guess by moving it out to the A series. BTW am ...
by ramana
31 Jan 2002 00:12
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 82751

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

Shiv in your line of thought. The CCS has cleared the deployment of Prithvi and is under chief of staff. This is in response to the possibility of the RATS firing convnetional Hatf etc.<p>Pioneer report: Army chief to clear Prithvi deployment ---------------------- Brahmastra as last resort: Army ch...
by ramana
31 Jan 2002 00:02
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 82751

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

I dont know your background nor antecedents. I submit that the Second strike posture comes from the DND doctrine. Agni and all provide teeth to the doctrine. There is no spin involved. Please dont make wild claims on this forum.
ramana/Admin hat on.
by ramana
29 Jan 2002 21:46
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 82751

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

A collection of articles on Agni test
1) SAAG - FIRE BETWEEN INDIA AND PAKISTAN:<p>2) IDC - INDIA’S SECOND STRIKE NUCLEAR SECRET IN THE OPEN<p>3) IDC meadi watch column- MEDIA Watch –– 29 January 2002<p>Has details of which services and costs of the new vehicle.
by ramana
29 Jan 2002 02:05
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 82751

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

A TOI editorial Trial by Agni<p>Argues teh test should be seen from all aspects- strategic, political- domestic and international. Notes the curious lack of rhetoric from US an wonders why.
by ramana
29 Jan 2002 01:24
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 82751

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

Mohan RC said the same wrods in an interview with Frontline in Jan. 1999 ( 15th?). I mean about first principles. But no one pays attention to him any way. Perkovich has painted a Dr. Strangelove portrait of him.
by ramana
27 Jan 2002 22:39
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)
Replies: 227
Views: 83093

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)

The Agni RV has an onboard thruster setup called the high altitude engine(HAE). It is also called a half stage for it can add range if needed. I am not confident but I believe it is based on the 4th stage of the PSLV. I deduce this based on ISRO offcials remarks about the long burntime of the 4th st...
by ramana
26 Jan 2002 02:08
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)
Replies: 227
Views: 83093

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)

The Deccan Herald and Hindu stories on short range Agni do heve this different shape. Also Hindu does point out it was a single stage vehicle.<p>Short range Agni test fired<p>Oh somebody solv the mystery relieve us of the agony!
by ramana
25 Jan 2002 23:25
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)
Replies: 227
Views: 83093

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)

The P-5 are informed as matter of courtsey to avoid surprises. That way they know its a tst and not the real deal.Sort of CBM.<p>Here is HT update: Missile flexing: Agni tested <p>Based on second set of reports shows some kind of briefing happened in New Delhi to explain the significance of the test...
by ramana
25 Jan 2002 23:10
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)
Replies: 227
Views: 83093

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)

The Indian tests are over international waters and could impact aviation and shipping so they inform. China tests over land and so doesnt. In fact only news we hear about them is when US announces based on its monitoring.
by ramana
25 Jan 2002 22:58
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)
Replies: 227
Views: 83093

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)

I think it is A-II second stage with some fins added. The first stage has larger dia so integrating it with present RV should havve a conic section but not per picture.<p>Here is ReDiff's update: Short-range Agni to bring all of Pak within range <p>Good writing who is this reporter? Maybe Iype took ...
by ramana
25 Jan 2002 22:36
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)
Replies: 227
Views: 83093

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)

I read it differently. Since there seems to be some pressure about testing longer range systems they decided to to take care of a quick reaction, accurate short ramge vehicle. If they put same guidance package as that for the A-I and II on the short range one they should have a very accurate vehicle...
by ramana
25 Jan 2002 22:15
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)
Replies: 227
Views: 83093

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)

Yes the blunt nose one is a red herring. It might nt be Indian at all. However rest of my comment about accuracy etc still stand. Meanwhile Pioneer reports emphasis on accuracy and mobility.<p> Short range Agni tested ------------------ Short range Agni tested Rahul Datta/New Delhi <p>India on Frida...
by ramana
25 Jan 2002 21:53
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)
Replies: 227
Views: 83093

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)

Bharat thanks for the info. It clarifies a lot of things. The experts are not wrong when they talk about scientific progress. Off the top of my head the following achievements - New blunt nose RV - Single stage solid fuel vehicle needs to waste its energy to reach below max range locations. This mea...
by ramana
25 Jan 2002 21:32
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)
Replies: 227
Views: 83093

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)

While I appreciate some members right to whine please confine them to the whine thread or open one! Thanks, ramana
by ramana
25 Jan 2002 21:16
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)
Replies: 227
Views: 83093

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)

First of all congrats to Indian scientists and engineers who made this possible. Next to GOI for mustering the fortitude to carry out the test. Yes no message is ment but is defintely implied for neighboring terrorists. <p>The short range and solid fuel means that its quick reaction so none of the o...
by ramana
27 Nov 2001 03:03
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: T-72s in Chechnya, From Armour Magazine
Replies: 254
Views: 70194

Re: T-72s in Chechnya, From Armour Magazine

My guess it is same as insensitive explosives. These cannot be set off easily and are supposed to be latest and greatest in this business. So an enemy hit wont set off the ammo and blow up the vehicle.
by ramana
25 Sep 2001 08:48
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India test-fires indigenous missile [ DHANUSH ]
Replies: 39
Views: 12258

Re: India test-fires indigenous missile [ DHANUSH ]

There was a video of the PJ-10 taking off and doing its turn. So a pix was released soon after the test.
by ramana
21 Sep 2001 22:47
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India test-fires indigenous missile [ DHANUSH ]
Replies: 39
Views: 12258

Re: India test-fires indigenous missile [ DHANUSH ]

The prithvi program had various options- 150, 250 and 350 km range. The early version was 1 t payload. The next version was with .5 t payload and was slated for IAF. They liked it but balked at the puny payload. So next product improvement was to switch the fuel from the SA-2 ungodly mix to that use...
by ramana
08 Sep 2001 00:45
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Aerospace Industry Developments
Replies: 50
Views: 31115

Re: Indian Aerospace Industry Developments

Dr. Kota answers the critics of LCA program.<BR> <A HREF="http://www.ada.gov.in/others/news/events/dr_kota/dr_kota.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.ada.gov.in/others/news/events/dr_kota/dr_kota.html</A> <P>BTW, TD-2 is to take to the skies inlast week of Sept. from this site.
by ramana
27 Jul 2001 07:31
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pokhran-II Yield
Replies: 33
Views: 13790

Re: Pokhran-II Yield

Sanjay and shiv your points being taken up. Lets see where it leads.
by ramana
27 Jul 2001 01:01
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pokhran-II Yield
Replies: 33
Views: 13790

Re: Pokhran-II Yield

Thanks psmith! So from these two links PKI clearly accepts the yields that BARC has stated for S-1. His complaint is that it didnt burn more. If it had the yield would be more. Could the Whiskey shaft hold more? <P>From Chengappa, Mrs IG authorized Ramanna to build the shaft for a device four times ...
by ramana
26 Jul 2001 22:36
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pokhran-II Yield
Replies: 33
Views: 13790

Re: Pokhran-II Yield

PKI also gave a lecture at USi where the audience comprised of the high and mighty of Indian establishment and he accepted the S-1 yield.( ref. Ranjit Rai site) <BR>His beef as I understood was with the partial burn business i.e. the secondary should have achieved more.And he was worried that India ...
by ramana
26 Jul 2001 22:29
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan's quest for the H-bomb
Replies: 15
Views: 7037

Re: Pakistan's quest for the H-bomb

I do not have any updates after that thread. However quite a few visiting India based scholars also hold this view and have been questioning their Chinese counterparts. And getting the usual spiel about why do we need to as they already had it from 1987 as attested by Gen Beg. Yeah right! <BR>As for...
by ramana
26 Jul 2001 00:58
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan's quest for the H-bomb
Replies: 15
Views: 7037

Re: Pakistan's quest for the H-bomb

Long time ago KS answered the question. He says that the weapons have launch authority delegated to the possesors- ie TSP. That is the crux of the problem.
by ramana
25 Jul 2001 23:15
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pokhran-II Yield
Replies: 33
Views: 13790

Re: Pokhran-II Yield

Sridahr good idea. Need to pursue with our Mumbai coordinator. Give me some time.
by ramana
25 Jul 2001 22:53
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pokhran-II Yield
Replies: 33
Views: 13790

Re: Pokhran-II Yield

Ajay you think that is possible for PKI to visit this forum? We cant offer fellowships and other stuff and they will get flamed anyway. It has happened in the past. Ill informed members start attacking without understanding the background of the posters and turn them away. Also you seem to think it ...
by ramana
25 Jul 2001 21:48
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pokhran-II Yield
Replies: 33
Views: 13790

Re: Pokhran-II Yield

Sunil good reading. However the PKI 8kt for POKI ref is indirect in Ref 10 dated 1996. (Gupta Fabian paper available at fas.org or just google it.) <BR> <A HREF="http://tejas.serc.iisc.ernet.in/~currsci/jul102001/72.pdf" TARGET=_blank>http://tejas.serc.iisc.ernet.in/~currsci/jul102001/72.p...