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by shiv
27 Apr 2018 08:11
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

..because iron has been found in Bihar/UP and Andhra Pradesh going back to 1800 to 1600 BC. To be fair, I used scholar.google.com to find everyone who cited The origins of iron working in India: new evidence from the Central Ganga Plain and the Eastern Vindhyas, Rakesh Tewari Of those that I could ...
by shiv
27 Apr 2018 07:55
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Large PDF http://www.gilgamesh.ch/KochMahabharata6x9_V1.00.pdf Dieter Koch Astronomical Dating of the Mahābhārata War Goes a lot into "long astronomical oral tradition written down a thousand years after the event" (and therefore could have been carried by Aryans into India). Hmmmmm..see ...
by shiv
27 Apr 2018 07:08
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Archaeology of the Middle Gangetic Plain: 2015 article http://web.inflibnet.ac.in/ojs/index.php/SHSS/article/viewFile/3256/2535 Last page is important. Thanks for digging this up. I have archived it as part of my personal collection. But have you noticed something about this paper - something in co...
by shiv
27 Apr 2018 06:50
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Do you have any idea what is native word (pre-colonial - in old-Persian, Persian, Parsis texts) for "Avestan" / the language spoken/written in Gathas? Zarathustra Gathas and Yasja/Yajna are too close to vedic chants and rituals to consider them to be independently invented and developed i...
by shiv
26 Apr 2018 22:12
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

I am looking for specific line quotes here mandala-sukta-mantra. Failing that I am going to mock and taunt the person who makes the claim and say "Nyahaha you are bluffing" - to cause "knives to be drawn out" If the refs come I will go back to the Rig veda scholars i trust and l...
by shiv
26 Apr 2018 18:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 1150
Views: 182969

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Shiv posted a link once which said Gripen can do max 3 or 4 sorties and max flight time of some 4.5hr or so in a day. Numbers are hazy in my mind but are in ballpark. Similar limits exist for other aircrafts too. No one should have any doubt in their minds that LCA is a world class and perhaps even...
by shiv
26 Apr 2018 18:29
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

From David Frawley https://twitter.com/davidfrawleyved/status/989338916531589120 India is a vast Dharmic civilization, not a subset or sidelight to western civilization. It cannot be understood according to western civilizational values, dichotomies or terminology. You cannot understand India’s civi...
by shiv
26 Apr 2018 18:24
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

and on the other hand there is the "krishna ayas(?) == iron? bronze? I am looking for specific line quotes here mandala-sukta-mantra. Failing that I am going to mock and taunt the person who makes the claim and say "Nyahaha you are bluffing" - to cause "knives to be drawn out&qu...
by shiv
26 Apr 2018 18:05
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

My take: I'm painfully aware that science can work only with available data, and there are too few data points to capture any of the likely real-world complex set of interactions that led a group of related languages to spread across Asia and Europe; Occam's Razor then favors the simplest hypothesi...
by shiv
25 Apr 2018 22:24
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

New article. Please share and spread https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XZbqXAWPLvOdi0DaC20yruDGCvtv9T22kphXo3_J6iY also https://www.facebook.com/shivsas3/posts/1698247916928711 "The 4 Hoaxes that made Sanskrit "come" to India THE 4 HOAXES THAT MADE SANSKRIT “COME” TO INDIA It is now w...
by shiv
25 Apr 2018 22:22
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Nilesh Oak wrote:SI-3 presentations coming out at Snail's pace (the following presentation came out 1-2 days ago)

Here is one that presents some of our BRFites...

https://youtu.be/RaN5bYPWtX8

The very first talk - 0 to 10 minutes is by a brfite!
by shiv
25 Apr 2018 07:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: DefExpo 2018 Chennai
Replies: 327
Views: 26788

Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Looking at all those beautiful pics I am going to send a message to MoD and IAF that all aircraft should be painted bright yellow, red and pale green so that they can be seen clearly in photos with sky as background.
by shiv
24 Apr 2018 19:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: DefExpo 2018 Chennai
Replies: 327
Views: 26788

Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

There must be good amount of lift from those wide wings on LCH. Have they considered these for Rudra? Why would the Rudra need more lift from wings? Not mocking - but just curious about your line of reasoning. In the LCH the lift, if any will be counteracted by stores on the wings that count as drag.
by shiv
24 Apr 2018 17:24
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

A_Gupta wrote:
shiv wrote:


So, to throw away this "hope" I should expect that if Rakhigarhi aDNA shows up, ADMIXTURE will show it to be Onge + Iran_N with hardly a trace of anything else?


All I am saying is - whatever the genetic findings - it has nothing to do with language - at least around 1500 BC
by shiv
24 Apr 2018 11:05
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Rudradev I don't know if you saw my query on this. The Vagheesh paper in the line they use to describe AASI have used a reference to a paper called the Simons Genome Project by Mullick et al. I downloaded the paper and that paper speaks only of Onge apart from other non Indian populations (eg Oz abo...
by shiv
24 Apr 2018 09:20
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

As you can infer, I'm clinging on to hope that it won't be just the evidence of the Rg Veda itself that sets this straight. Some genetics data would be good too :). As to what that might be, e.g., if Rakhigarhi shows that tiny bit of green -- see Shiv's posting above -- that accounts for the Siberi...
by shiv
24 Apr 2018 07:04
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Comment on my blog: " tim drake said... "It is likely is that a hypothetical Punjab_N population from even before agriculture would have been related to the Iran_N people, somewhere along a cline between Iran_N in Iran (whose aDNA has been found) and peoples in India's interior" -- A...
by shiv
23 Apr 2018 19:24
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

My response to the biorxiv paper on FB. Please share. Actually I need to do something more detailed than this..
https://www.facebook.com/shivsas3/posts ... 1583820011
by shiv
23 Apr 2018 09:01
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Agasthi, that statement needs to be blasted out on Twitter. Kindly do the honours and let us know your handle, or let shiv do it... and we'll all retweet the bytes out of it... Beautifully worded. Two Tweets (Not Two teats) https://twitter.com/bennedose/status/988233223539900416 https://twitter.com...
by shiv
23 Apr 2018 06:39
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 4323
Views: 636296

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

How much information about battle do we get from narratives of real battles and how much from video games? The difference as I see it is that all ships and aircraft have "expendables" that get expended and cannot be earned by mouse clicks. Food, water, fuel, lubricating oils, spare parts t...
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 20:47
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

^Can I cross post this beautifully worded statement on Twitter?
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 17:47
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 4323
Views: 636296

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Amazing image. they have managed to reduce the size of Barak to 10 cm diameter and Brahmos to maybe 20-30 cm. And they have fitted such a huge gun. Maybe railgun? Or railway inside gun.. The entire 8 Brahmos launch area would fit inside the footprint of the gun turret alone. Compare with the "m...
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 17:38
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)
Replies: 1456
Views: 152325

Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

These "experts" simply copypaste what can be found on Google just like news about Casmere was - for a decade "800000000000000000000000000000 cvilians killed and preganent wimmens had their bellies rippyed open"
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 17:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 3537
Views: 599239

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017

ramana wrote:Are they fighting Warsaw pact forces?
3000 Nags.
100,000 APFDS.

China
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 11:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 1150
Views: 182969

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

I heard that one Tejas in the recent exercise took 23 seconds to take off rather than 21. I hope this is not a worrying thing given that 21 or less should be the norm according to my late cousin with whom I spoke a few days ago. Also why did they use only 4 out of 5 Tejas. This is very worrying to m...
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 11:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 1150
Views: 182969

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

symontk wrote:One question

Wont OBOGS be a liability in case airbases are attacked with WMD? Or are there filters for that?

why would it be a liability?
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 08:13
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Good Stuff, Dr. Shiv. Thanks Nilesh. I expect it to appear on the biorixiv site soon. I think 90% of Indians who learn about Aryan "invasion" or "migration" miss the woods for the trees. They fret about the migration part - which is unimportant. What led to the rewriting of our ...
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 07:42
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Talking about language AIT Ayatollahism The Sound of the Avestan Language (Vendidad:The Earth) sounds familiar in tone and rhythm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPyRu7fLoFw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnjSAPye6d8 THis is like Japji Sahib https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWnAyQKQqFo And here is ...
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 14:44
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

I pointed out in my earlier post that there are two important preconditions to make a claim that people from place A took their language to place B and introduced that language for the first time in place B. First there must be incontrovertible evidence that the migrants from place A actually used t...
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 11:10
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

I do not intend to question the genetics findings of the Vagheesh et al paper because I am not a genetics researcher and I have myself not gone through all the details of the paper to critique its methodology. Obviously as in all science, the paper will get validated or rebutted via future papers fr...
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 08:49
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

A_Gupta wrote:1. Language tree is more like a banyan tree than a pipal tree?

Then PIE is like Orchid. No roots.

Orchid also means balls. It's all balls.

See the number of US Americans who are now learning Spanish? Not because Spaniards colonized the US.
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 08:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 1150
Views: 182969

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

One Question maybe a dumb one .. Does all the activity this mean that the Tejas flight envelope is completely opened and the flight laws of the aircraft are presumed to sufficiently coded complete for all aircraft operations including combat maneuvering ? Or will the tweaking process still continue...
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 08:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 1150
Views: 182969

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

I am glad the OBOGS is an O2 concentrator system and not a generation system as that could be fire hazard. Most likely a N2 absorption system. The entire system looks like a hospital operating room Anesthesia system. shiv your thoughts? ramana I think it must be a concentrator and not a generator, ...
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 07:45
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

You are right, genetics does not correlate with language movement, but if gene studies were to show that there was no sudden influx of "alien" genes into the Indian population, that's an argument against AIT, right? There have always been migrations into India. India is too attractive a l...
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 07:17
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

It asked "How are all Indian groups a combo of Steppe, Iran etc DNA?". Basically, if India was already heavily populated, how do you explain a handful of Nomadic pastoralists to pass their genes onto enough people that practically all modern Indians carry it? As far as I am concerned - if...
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 07:15
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Vagheesh has asked for comments at length on biorxv. I will draft a comment here and then post it on there. Arun - would you like to take a shot? If I get inspiration in the next few minutes my draft comment will appear here first.
by shiv
20 Apr 2018 17:02
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 4599
Views: 240458

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Arun, Vagheesh has asked for everyone on Twitter to join hands and send him a document explaining how languages are related from Delhi to Dublin. This is a tall order on many counts, especially considering that we were discussing a genetics paper until he made linguistics conclusions and some of us ...
by shiv
20 Apr 2018 14:14
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 1734
Views: 278106

Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

vasu raya wrote:How did the IAF manage without affecting civilian traffic?

Civilian traffic would have been warned to stay out of certain zones

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