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by Karna
16 Jun 2020 18:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Forgive me for barging in here from lurking mode Instead of discussing our emotional burst over this incident, it would be better if we keep our discussions with some logical and rational sense. BRF is open forum think tank which keeps its discussions factual, realistic and no heat of the moment ho...
by Karna
16 Jun 2020 17:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Unsurprised to see a lot of dhoti shivering as usual. Remind me, did Modi do televised broadcasts after Pathankot and Uri? Did the pabacks happen or not? Modi carrying on as usual is super good news. This was also how he carried on before post-Uri and balakot strikes. Regardless, it shows armed for...
by Karna
16 Jun 2020 15:19
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

This is a premeditated attack on a Colonel after a JCO punched a Chinese Colonel in Sikkim two months back. They had planned the attack with iron rods, and batons with nails and stones. We need to take out two of their officers. +100 There is no way you get to kill a colonel in a fist fight. He is ...
by Karna
16 Jun 2020 14:25
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

abhik wrote:Where are they getting news of PLA casualties? What is the source? Hope its not some random twit.


Nothing from the army.
by Karna
16 Jun 2020 14:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

sooraj wrote:Update: Atleast 4 PLA soldiers including 1 Officer eliminated on Chinese side.


The response needs to be disproportionate. This happened in an area which was always under our control..
by Karna
16 Jun 2020 14:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

chetak wrote:
Manu Pubby@manupubby

More details:

No firing took place, so this means that our soldiers were beaten to death by the Chinese on Indian territory.


The above statement hurts.. even if there is a better way of saying it
by Karna
16 Jun 2020 13:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Not avenging the CO will be very demoralising for the unit. Am not sure how Sr. Commanders are going to de escalate this situation. It would be demoralizing for the IA. There has to be a response. Escalation is dependent on whether there were use of firearms I think. If deaths came from sticks and ...
by Karna
16 Jun 2020 13:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

asinh wrote:Hope they lost men too.


Press conference at 2. First loss of lives after 1975.
by Karna
16 Jun 2020 13:40
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Shiv Aroor @ShivAroor · 3m BIG BREAKING: Indian Army Colonel (Commanding Officer of an infantry battalion) and 2 Army jawans killed in action during a clash with Chinese troops at one of the standoff points in the Galwan Valley, Ladakh. Details awaited. Is this real? If so we have to go all out. It...
by Karna
16 Jun 2020 13:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

On Twitter :

Big Breaking: Indian Army Colonel and 2 Army jawans killed in action during a clash with Chinese troops at one of the standoff points in the Galwan Valley, Ladakh.
by Karna
16 Jun 2020 13:16
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Won't it to be too early since discussions are going on..

@shivaroor
Troubling news coming in from Pangong Tso, Ladakh. Will update with official details shortly & on @IndiaToday.
by Karna
13 Jun 2020 02:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

The silence from Indian leadership is not surprising, not because they lack courage, but because China has put a complex problem before India with suddenness and alacrity. Indian Govt is busy assessing the ramifications and evaluating its options on a scale which we have not encountered in recent t...
by Karna
13 Jun 2020 02:10
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

"I think we are giving too much. credence to the superiority of Chinese strategic thinking. " If anything we seen to have underestimated the space available for such thinking for an autocratic regime whose survival does not depend on winning elections every 4 or 5 years. They can and will...
by Karna
13 Jun 2020 01:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

The silence from the political leadership is deafening as compared to URI surgical strikes and Balakot Bombings. Hence the loss in the battle of perception. The silence from Xi Jinping has been deafening too. Wonder how that doesn't lead to a loss in the battle of perception for the Chinese. My bad...
by Karna
12 Jun 2020 22:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Came across this blog write up from Rohit Vats. This was written last year.
It details out our formation, ability to defend and options to strike across LAC.

https://vatsrohit.blogspot.com/2019/07/ ... art-1.html
by Karna
12 Jun 2020 22:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

PM Modi’s silence on LAC stand-off is benefiting China. India must change its script In the current crisis, the Modi government and the military have lost credibility and the battle of perception, and have literally endorsed China’s stand. LT GEN H S PANAG (RETD) The silence from the political lead...
by Karna
06 Jun 2020 23:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

The Chinese send a Major General to the talks. Jokers don't even have a Corp sized force in Xinjang and they want to go against our entire Northen Command! :rotfl: Nope China does not do anything without a plan. If news about China sending a Major General to the meeting is true then it is to convey...
by Karna
06 Jun 2020 21:14
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Karna,we are yet to modernise the forces,tx. to the excruciating delays of the MOD.A few critical requirements on the verge of finalisation were dumped,with a new round right from the beginning.Snakes and ladders at play! Example,the tankers for the IAF.The existing IL- 78s ( tanker versions of the...
by Karna
06 Jun 2020 13:10
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Before 2014, our strategy against Na Pork was very defensive. However, post 2014 we have not only been very assertive on our borders we have also isolated na pork within the OIC and globally. Na pork today can only count on cheen, turkey and Malaysia. We have also increased the military envelope bey...
by Karna
06 Jun 2020 12:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 6836
Views: 752221

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

I am all for democracy. But please watch that debate and you tell me if those 2 Pappu slaves were demonstrating India’s proud democratic credentials or they were showing themselves to be what they are: pipsqueak colonized slaves justifying treason and sedition Haven't seen the debate. However, both...
by Karna
04 Jun 2020 11:19
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Interesting view point CommandEleven Home China ChinaIndia India-China standoff: Indian Options on Current Ladakh Situation By Reporting Desk -June 3, 20201679 0 Facebook Twitter CommandEleven is pleased to present an analysis written by Major General Mian Nadeem Ijaz (Retired), former Director Gene...
by Karna
03 Jun 2020 22:46
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Yes, everyone should watch the interview with Col. Dinny also. Things will be very clear. I saw this (all ~30 mins with no skipping), it clarified what the situation used to be 3 years ago. Doesn’t clarify what is happening now. According to Col Dinny, Chinese were fine with construction in Indian ...
by Karna
03 Jun 2020 21:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

am not war mongering here but given our numerical superiority should not there be atleast one time where we go out and surround these camps and hold them hostage and fight off a fire fight, there needs to be some antibiotic for this kind of repeated infection(depsam, doklam etc) so that we dont hav...
by Karna
03 Jun 2020 21:09
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

By d-atis High resolution satellite images via @Planetlabs & @AuroraIntel of the #PangongTso sector improve visualization of the stand off between #India-#China #IndiaChinaStandoff https://t.co/reVNBLvpMJ Clear camps possibly between Finger 6& 7 Edit : YT video of Nitin Gokhale is very insi...
by Karna
03 Jun 2020 20:01
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

I think the timing of this border movement on multiple fronts from Ladakh to Sikkim is being coordinated by Beijing to put pressure on India to back off from moves to solicit international companies to move to India from China because of the virus, to back off from India's position on a full invest...
by Karna
02 Jun 2020 02:42
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Replies: 6603
Views: 852026

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Interestingly the SBI is partly owned by the Carlyle group that in turn is partly owned by Soros And the timing could not have been more perfect Carlyle group had invested in SBI cards which is an independent credit card company when GE capital exited it's stake in the venture. It holds 16% basis t...
by Karna
01 Jun 2020 22:50
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Doklham showed that we would react to any threat to our border security. And that is the problem. Reactive and not proactive as the following explains. Ajai Shukla and Abjhijit Iyer Mitra are 2 extreme ends of a spectrum. Shukla says the sky is falling and China has invaded India. Iyer-Mitra says v...
by Karna
01 Jun 2020 21:51
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Because there isn’t much to get upset about, the Chinese tried to do something and are being pushed back. The Chinese objective was to block road construction - but now India will accelerate the road construction - with full security bandobast. To get rid of the Chinese camps (if any are left), IA ...
by Karna
01 Jun 2020 00:35
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

the chinese paltu presstitutes are into chinese funded perks and privileges and so silence is literally gold for them Aarti Tikoo Singh@AartiTikoo·11h Wondering why no outrage over #China’s incursions in #Ladakh? Indian companies with Chinese Investors: 1. Big Basket 2. Flipkart 3. Make My Trip 4. ...
by Karna
31 May 2020 19:50
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

it is a well coordinated move, china is director (does not matter if it is TSP or both combined, but TSP habit of being on the knees may indicate Chinese leadership), Nepal is also getting involved, Maldives will be with us and perhaps Sri Lanka is still in India camp (the Chinese loving president ...
by Karna
31 May 2020 01:48
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

A longer video : https://twitter.com/IMRaj1984/status/1266787571419369472?s=09 Not sure which unit but looks like it has served in Siachen. You can hear multiple dialects when they are abusing the chinis. However, no one is carrying a Gun in this video or atleast I couldn't see one. We should parad...
by Karna
31 May 2020 01:46
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

The image in this tweet probably helps define the situation.

Rudimentary, but self explanatory ?
Feel free to use if you need it ! #PangongTso #IndiaChinaFaceOff https://t.co/HCkzdJ4Dyq

P.S : How can one upload an image.
by Karna
31 May 2020 01:32
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Here is another view. Looks like the Chinese are getting their ass kicked. https://twitter.com/TheRealRD12/status/1266794184343724042?s=20 Looks like the guy holding the camera must be a Ladaki or AP guy, speaking English. This is going to keep twitter people busy for few days... I hope we got to k...
by Karna
31 May 2020 01:15
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

India also signed an island swap agreement with Australia. Like I said, we are opening second theater with them in the SCS. https://i.ibb.co/k1tsjcb/Screen-Shot-2020-05-30-at-12-04-24-PM.png It's a mutual use treaty where Aussies get access to A&N island. More likely listening and monitoring po...
by Karna
30 May 2020 23:35
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Abhijit Iyer-Mitra on Twitter 1n Another report, selectively quoting a CLASSIFIED & PROPRIETARY report prepared by my colleagues. Also carefully worded to confuse the reader & gets basic facts wrong. First up the LAC runs at the top of ridge 4. A road between 5 & 8 is nowhere in our side...
by Karna
30 May 2020 22:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

In this case, the current crisis, is a reaction of our infra buildup. Once complete (it is major done even now), but to be completed by 2022 (?) will give us a big advantage. We can also play the game equally well of going few km into well demarcated lane and say it's mine. Wasn't there news by one...
by Karna
30 May 2020 22:36
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

^^^^ This is unfortunate, every time India is caught off guard. Nearly 2,000 years of history proves this. But couple of instance in our Independent History where we took the initiative was Siachen and 1967. Cheen reaction to our infrastructure building isn't new. So why are we suprised with the en...
by Karna
30 May 2020 22:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Brahma Chellaney @Chellaney · China moved troops to occupy areas where not only Indian and Chinese claim lines overlapped but also where there was no dispute. In other words, through a swift aggression planned months in advance, China has changed the status quo in both disputed and undisputed borde...
by Karna
30 May 2020 22:04
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 4479
Views: 810486

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Welcome to BR!! True that. Hence it is important to note the key personnel leading this task both Militarily and Diplomatically on the ground. S Jaishankar : Current Ext Affairs.He was India's longest serving ambassador to Chinis and will lead the diplomatic offensive. In 2013 he was responsible in...

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