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by Dipanker
25 Sep 2017 06:51
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: India - South & North Korea Thread
Replies: 632
Views: 36798

Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

DT has forced KimUn past the point of no return, IMO is a erroneous assumption. KIM will just cooly back down in the sense that he would stop stepping on Trump's tail for now, just coolly go on with his merry ways of building the nukes and missiles. So what does Trump do if Kim now stops stepping on...
by Dipanker
23 Sep 2017 02:42
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: India - South & North Korea Thread
Replies: 632
Views: 36798

Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

If you note I did not underline South Korea and Japan. There will be no winners if that happens as it becomes a multiplayer concurrent game which has n^2 possibility. Sorry to nitpick, but with n players each with "2" options, shouldn't the possibilities be 2^n instead of n^2?
by Dipanker
22 Sep 2017 21:04
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: The Rohingya Menace
Replies: 393
Views: 21545

Re: The Rohingya Menace

The notion of settling Rohingya muslims as a strategic vote bank is without merit, so far about 40,000 Rohingyas are living in India, that can at most influence 1 or 2 local assembly seat that is if they were all settled in one place. But that is not the case, nor do they have any voting rights yet....
by Dipanker
22 Sep 2017 20:22
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: India - South & North Korea Thread
Replies: 632
Views: 36798

Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

WoPo syndicated article on NDTV, enjoy! Short History Of 'Dotard,' Insult Kim Jong Un Used Against Trump "I will surely and definitely tame the deranged U.S. dotard with fire," he declared in an unusually direct and angry statement published Thursday by North Korea's official Korean Centra...
by Dipanker
22 Sep 2017 19:56
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: India - South & North Korea Thread
Replies: 632
Views: 36798

Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

kapilrdave wrote:In an ideal world we should be confronting both china and US.


That is your notion of an "ideal world" ?

In a truly "ideal world" we shouldn't have to confront anybody!
by Dipanker
18 Sep 2017 05:45
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

^^there is a lot more to the human spread as in the link I posted than what you are sharing. Even though there was a spread across it passed through the Indian subcontinent due to the ICe Age. The rest of the details are interesting too. Agreed. Purpose of my post was to show that only a fraction o...
by Dipanker
18 Sep 2017 00:04
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

I may be wrong but some one said India escaped last ice age that North India was the onleee place left for humanity to survive. I've found this instructive, and posted it before too http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/ Humanity was present across the globe in the timelines you write. Gurus ca...
by Dipanker
17 Sep 2017 07:50
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

The whole 1500 BCE date is like the 0 BC date. An artificial milestone representing a non-existent event (AIT & birth of Jeebus). The West likes to setup these stakes-on-the-ground to measure everything in terms of "before this" & "after this". Completely fake & desi...
by Dipanker
15 Sep 2017 21:43
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Speaking of horses, this is about their global origin in India http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/10564/20141121/horse-rhino-origins-tracked-in-india.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141120081752.htm The original study is from Johns Hopkins, suitably chi chi Indeed there were ...
by Dipanker
15 Sep 2017 21:38
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

And that leads to this pesky little problem of presence of horses in IVC. WIth the exception of Surkotada, horse bones only start to appear in the "secured layers" late IVC around 1700 BC or so. Surkotada itself is controversial, since the bones found here could be those of wild asses of ...
by Dipanker
15 Sep 2017 18:28
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Of course, that means RgVeda existed during the heyday of the Indus Valley a.k.a. Saraswati/Sindhu civilization. This is of course also suggested by the identification of the Vedic Saraswati (not known or well-known in Sten Konow's day). And that leads to this pesky little problem of presence of ho...
by Dipanker
15 Sep 2017 18:12
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

I have read that one. You read it on this thread. Look at the map and you will see that the idea and your idea of geography in the era of online maps are both bullshit. Distance from Sinashta grave (Chelyabinsk Oblast, Russia.) to Damascus, Syria is 4284 km - this includes sailing across the Black ...
by Dipanker
15 Sep 2017 17:00
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Now someone explain this to me. How does one reach the conclusion that the culture that has "Mitra-varuna-Indra-nasatya"that was developing en route from Russia to Syria. then it just appeared as a flash in one tablet in Syria in 1800 BC and then went to India? The purported Mittani split...
by Dipanker
14 Sep 2017 10:08
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

shiv wrote:I think this is a completely obscure and totally useless classification. Will explain if you are interested.


I studied whole bunch of geology as part of my academic curriculum.
by Dipanker
14 Sep 2017 10:00
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

What sort of classification is that? India was not iced up even the earlier yuga. That earlier pleistocene matters only to Wesht that was iced up because "icing up" is the key to define an age and balls to human history that could not have involved anything other than half-apes before hol...
by Dipanker
14 Sep 2017 09:54
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

http://baharna.com/karma/yuga.htm If you (Dipanker) take all this literally I hope that your conservative mind retains enough liberalism to allow others to believe all this too. I will, as I always do, be bringing this up to confront you in due course, now that you have declared what you believe to...
by Dipanker
13 Sep 2017 22:38
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

What has all this got to do with yugas? I suspect the translation of yuga as calendar years may be wrong. Of course this whole yuga business could be complete rubbish like cowdung on umbilical cord. Or it could be like handwashing. True but not understood or explained. A yuga as a measure of length...
by Dipanker
13 Sep 2017 22:25
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Nilesh Oak wrote:
Too bad, it did not help.

Stick to what you personally follow. All the best.


Yeah, all the best to you too with dating Ramayana to 12,000+ BC with your archeoastronomy approach.
by Dipanker
13 Sep 2017 04:20
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Thanks for your feedback. So out of all these multiple definition of yugas which is acceptable one? Now that is indeed a million $$$$$$$ (not years) question! If you combine the fact that there are multiple definitions of Yuga with what Shiv ji wrote few posts (above), it would prevent individuals ...
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 22:50
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

This is a random claim, because a specific definition of 'Yuga' is been picked up without much thought, logic or scientific acumen... What follows are 12 notes stating different definitions of yuga (courtesy: Arun Upadhyaya). There are many additional definitions of yuga, but this will suffice to m...
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 11:32
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Shame on you for calling it BS, because I told you the truth. same here. are you denying that unwashed commies rigged our history and our textbooks?? If you think that is the case, read multiple sources and triangulate. In anycase reading multiple sources is always recommended. Commies may not be t...
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 11:11
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

chetak wrote:
Dipanker wrote:
Nope, they were all my grandmother's book, straight from Gita Press, Gorakhpur.


BS


Shame on you for calling it BS, because I told you the truth.
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 10:57
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

chetak wrote:
Dipanker wrote:
I learnt that during my school years reading books.


That's right, books written by unwashed commies :wink:


Nope, they were all my grandmother's book, straight from Gita Press, Gorakhpur.
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 10:32
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

chetak wrote:
Dipanker wrote:
1+ million year is time period when Rama actually lived, I am not claiming Valmiki wrote Ramayana a million+ year ago.


who told you this?? yechuri or daniel raja??


I learnt that during my school years reading books.
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 10:22
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Yes, yes, you quoted wikipedia, just great. Now collect a prize at the door. Which part of "dating the texts" do you find hard to comprehend? "dating the texts" has nothing to do with "Rama's existence", or is this concept overloading both your neurons? The whole point...
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 09:51
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Dipankar: 1+ million year is time period when Rama actually lived, I am not claiming Valmiki wrote Ramayana a million+ year ago. And that is so because of the claim you pulled out of some orifice that a yuga is X million years? Sheer brilliance. The kind of quality in thinking that one only comes u...
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 09:29
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

So are you now officially adopting this stance, which, by the way, is totally contrary to the one adopted by SriJoy, the guy whom, not too long ago, you were +1-ing and cheering along with cries of "satyamev jayate"? As SriJoy has made clear a dozen times, it is 100% certain that there wa...
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 09:23
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Arjun wrote::rotfl:

So Dipankar, who I thought was my comrade-in-arms for data-driven sociology, cleanly pole-vaults all the way above Shiv, Rajesh, Nilesh et al to a date of Million+ years for the Ramayana !!!

Chuppa Rustom is a mild term for this. :lol:


I think you are misreading it.
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 09:18
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

That may well be the case, but you are providing a solid answer to the wrong question -- one that was not put to you. The question you were asked was about the claim that "one yuga equals X million years", which seems to be rock solid according to you, since you are pretending that can be...
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 08:23
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

"Seriously, It is you who is being moronic. How is the claim of 1+ million year indefensible when the Yugas are of specific time length? If Rama existed in Treta, we live in Kaliyuga, in between there was Dwapar roughly a million year long, ergo Rama lived at least 1+ million year ago. How is ...
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 07:56
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Dipanker:The 1+ million year is age of Ramayana, the period of Rama not the book, the context should have made it clear. The only material available for evaluation is the text and what is mentioned in it, to map it to specific times and dates. Randomly making the indefensible claim that "Ramay...
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 07:28
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Dipanker: Dating Ramayana is pointless exercise when we already know Lord Sri Ram...(witless vomit deleted) One need not buy into the religious aspects of texts to consider that the author(s) would have made observations of the night sky, or of their environment and incorporated it in their texts, ...
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 07:22
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

IMO you are nitpicking here, when I write "I find blah blah" I am exclusively talking about myself, not for anybody else, "I find" should not mean "everybody else finds", "the whole world finds" etc. you get the drift. The gospel truth about Haldighati battle...
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 06:49
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Dating Ramayana is pointless exercise when we already know Lord Sri Ram lived at least a million year ago, given that he lived in Treta yuga, we live in Kali yuga, in between there was Dwapar yuga which was roughly 1 million year long. Models are only as good as their underlying principles, garbage...
by Dipanker
12 Sep 2017 06:07
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Dating Ramayana is pointless exercise when we already know Lord Sri Ram lived at least a million year ago, given that he lived in Treta yuga, we live in Kali yuga, in between there was Dwapar yuga which was roughly 1 million year long. Models are only as good as their underlying principles, garbage ...
by Dipanker
11 Sep 2017 20:03
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

I fail to see how I can be alleged of "shifting the goalpost" when the question of "who won the battle of Haldighati" is part of my original post as an example of attempt to rewrite history with added presentational emphasis . In fact for emphasis, this part of the text is bolded...
by Dipanker
11 Sep 2017 09:00
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

OT here Is Indian interest served by this rewrite of history? Is it o.k. to rewrite history in the name of serving interest even if it is lie? I strongly disagree with those who subscribe to such ideas! Truth must prevail - Saytamev Jayate! That should be our guiding principle. Rajasthan rewrites h...
by Dipanker
11 Sep 2017 00:37
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 3869
Views: 125398

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Is Indian interest served by this rewrite of history? Is it o.k. to rewrite history in the name of serving interest even if it is lie? I strongly disagree with those who subscribe to such ideas! Truth must prevail - Saytamev Jayate! That should be our guiding principle. Rajasthan rewrites history: M...

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