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by mihir.mehta
23 Oct 2022 11:51
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5263
Views: 1742002

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

https://www.dw.com/en/indian-and-chinese-troop-pullout-concerns-ladakh-locals/a-63181455 It appears the whole of the Kugrang Valley has been converted to Buffer Zone. An area where we not only had some posts but also used that post to patrol further up towards the source of Galvan. As per this repor...
by mihir.mehta
15 Sep 2022 13:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5263
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Is he a hawk or 100% right or somewhere in the middle? Well, he is a hawk, of course, but there's nothing wrong with that -- "hawk" is not a derogatory word, IMO. But in this case, I don't know what he is complaining about. Aren't we all agreed that this latest disengagement / pullback (o...
by mihir.mehta
12 Nov 2020 10:09
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

I think they were always there on BlackTop & Yellow Bump. Black Top in any case is just 500 mtrs approx from their base and they don't need to be physically present there - some good surveillance equipment should do the job for them. Somebody said There is no use to china having F2 to F8. Then w...
by mihir.mehta
11 Nov 2020 17:00
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Checkout this image from detresfa_

https://twitter.com/detresfa_/status/13 ... 52/photo/1

Chinese building a new road to Spangur Gap, along the northern bank behind a hill. Doesn't make a huge difference but yes - is further away from our positions and safer comparatively.
by mihir.mehta
30 Oct 2020 10:35
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

this attack by China is to prevent India from attacking Pakistan/GB.... US will have no friends left apart from India That's what this is really!!! And by doing that China is securing its CPEC. The only thing we can really do is - to create top of the line all weather infra and an agile, light, swi...
by mihir.mehta
27 Oct 2020 11:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

The deployed troops are waiting for last shipment of polar winter clothing and face masks, which are expected to arrive from US Army own reserve stocks by the first week of November. 35 years of being posted in "polar winter type zones" in large numbers and we still are importing every th...
by mihir.mehta
24 Oct 2020 16:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5263
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

From today's Business-Standard : Government sources say Beijing is pressuring New Delhi to accept what would be publicly called a “mutual troop withdrawal”, but would, in fact, require Indian soldiers to withdraw first from their tactically advantageous positions south of Pangong Tso lake. Only afte...
by mihir.mehta
15 Oct 2020 17:18
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Views: 1742002

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

@pankajs - I understand all of that - all I am saying is - one cannot assume that they'll definitely attack. It isn't so simple. I never said - we occupied that position to get back our areas. Infact - am not sure the military would want status quo ante restored if we have to vacate this ridge. The ...
by mihir.mehta
15 Oct 2020 14:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

1. Which territory has India lost that the Chinese will "think", in your opinion, is adequate compensation for their "loss" in the Spanggur area? The territory that has been lost salami slicing all these years - Depsang, Demchok, Gogra Hotsprings area (Where max territory has be...
by mihir.mehta
15 Oct 2020 13:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

You can't trust them on anything. Even this could be deception. They just wanted to show India its place, show us who the big brother is and that we should always keep our heads low. Yes they're uncomfortable with our positions on the southern bank but its really difficult to say they'll attack to ...
by mihir.mehta
15 Oct 2020 13:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Views: 1742002

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

As per some reports - the've already - with the permission of the Afghan govt - started patrolling parts of the Wakhan Corridor - to ensure - the Talib's don't use that to come in to China to link up with the Uighurs. So someone above rightly said - given a chance they'll even kick Pakistan out of K...
by mihir.mehta
15 Oct 2020 13:00
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Views: 1742002

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

So the Chinis have finally opened their mouth, telling us the reason for the standoff. They want to stop our roads. It would be a mistake to believe that this is the reason or even one of the most important reasons. It could very well be and equally unlikely also. You can't trust them on anything. ...
by mihir.mehta
26 Sep 2020 23:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

@mihir.mehta, please edit your post. When the article does not name the airbase, why the heck are you doing so? ... Its common sense - it was clearly visible in the video and this post was for the knowledge of ppl on this forum. Don't worry about the Chinese - they know things much before any or ou...
by mihir.mehta
25 Sep 2020 15:36
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Gen Panag had corrected himself later on saying there was a mistake and put Black-Top back in Chinese territory. IT was there somewhere on twitter.
by mihir.mehta
25 Sep 2020 14:06
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5263
Views: 1742002

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Reading on twitter that India has cautioned China that IA will open fire if PLA tried to mob or run over Indian positions. So will this also apply to Y-Junction where PLA stops IA from moving ahead by mobbing?? I think neither India or China have a permanent position at Y- Junction. It does bother ...
by mihir.mehta
25 Sep 2020 11:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

pankajs wrote:Fishtail - 1 > 29° 6'57.48"N, 96°17'36.15"E
Fishtail - 2 > 28°37'9.23"N, 96°33'26.97"E
Thanks, can you also post the position of Asaphila - i've heard that name before but can't locate it anymore.
by mihir.mehta
25 Sep 2020 11:14
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Views: 1742002

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

@VikramS - We trusted the army commanders and you see what we have. Commanders on the ground can make a lot of difference even without political backing. If Gen Sundarji had his way asking the army to vacate from Sumdorong Chu - we would have already lost Tawang by now. The commander on the ground ...
by mihir.mehta
25 Sep 2020 10:47
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Views: 1742002

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

@VikramS - We trusted the army commanders and you see what we have. Commanders on the ground can make a lot of difference even without political backing. If Gen Sundarji had his way asking the army to vacate from Sumdorong Chu - we would have already lost Tawang by now. The commander on the ground s...
by mihir.mehta
25 Sep 2020 10:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Embedded piece that I haven't read myself. Relying on the quotes portion, it seems most of the Chinese intrusions in the Arunachal are in the fishtail area that India still controls. I did not know that India still controls the fishtail area partially or fully. I was under the impression that we ha...
by mihir.mehta
25 Sep 2020 10:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

From "The Print" - https://theprint.in/defence/indian-soldiers-at-lac-have-go-ahead-to-open-fire-in-self-defence-india-tells-china/509939/ Talking about Depsang Plains, one of the flashpoints in Ladakh, the sources said the issue there predates the current tensions between India and China....
by mihir.mehta
24 Sep 2020 17:23
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Where is the loss of face. They got what they wanted in Doklam . Once both sides disengaged - they came back in. Now they even have their Helipads in those areas. And i guess India is okay with it since its Bhutanese Territory and we still have all heights there - can still keep an eye on the entir...
by mihir.mehta
24 Sep 2020 17:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Views: 1742002

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

If somebody knows - how is it that the Chinese are stopping us from patrolling beyond the Y-Junction (near Burtse). I can understand they have excellent surveillance in that area so they reach the Y Junction and stop our patrols from going further up the Raki Nala but can't Indian troops then take t...
by mihir.mehta
24 Sep 2020 16:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

While the initial Chinese move was indeed a surprise, it was apparent after some thought that the Chinese plan must have started post Doklam to avenge the "loss of face" then, it being just ONE of the drivers of the current standoff however. That China is preparing for a future conflict s...
by mihir.mehta
24 Sep 2020 16:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

ET says The missile was randomly chosen from the production stock and the entire launch activity was carried out by Strategic Force Command (SFC) of the Army and monitored by scientists of Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) as part of the training exercise, official sources said. ...
by mihir.mehta
23 Sep 2020 14:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Very disappointed with India's continued deference and pussyfooting towards the Chinese. China brazenly disregards India's claim line, treats it with total disdain, and occupies territory right up to its own claim line. India on the other hands starts celebrating if it occupies peaks on its own sid...
by mihir.mehta
11 Sep 2020 12:46
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: BR Forum Feedback
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Re: BR Forum Feedback

I pointed out one fact of the post which was clearly unsusbtantiated and to me looked like a rant. The claim that it would take ten years for our GDP to reach pre covid levels. All independent projections so far expect India to be back at pre covid GDP levels by March 2022. That post is still there...
by mihir.mehta
11 Sep 2020 12:18
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Some interesting details here: https://indianexpress.com/article/india/pangong-fingers-hot-up-scramble-for-heights-as-pla-men-mass-on-ridge-india-sends-more-troops-6591327/ The Finger 4 knuckle is called Green Top, and it is where the PLA troops are stationed. From this position, they have a dominan...
by mihir.mehta
11 Sep 2020 12:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: BR Forum Feedback
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Re: BR Forum Feedback

I am not the one offering Bhakti here. There is no "So called fooling" and am not offering an opinion about this foolery without substantiation. The proof is there on GE - go and find it. Its not my job to give it to you on the platter. Its this ostrich attitude that the majority in this ...
by mihir.mehta
11 Sep 2020 11:59
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: BR Forum Feedback
Replies: 1178
Views: 294216

Re: BR Forum Feedback

Are we all supposed to do bhakti of one man?? No, you're expected to follow thread topic and posting guidelines. Confront me with facts and I am okay. How was what i posted much different than so many similar posts about past mistakes. An explanation could have been given. I still don't get it - wh...
by mihir.mehta
11 Sep 2020 10:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Someone (Deans or tsarkar?) had clarified that the Manali-Leh route even today is not used much for replenishment given the time it takes and the multiple passes that need to navigated. It's rather used for de-induction like activities, while the main route is still via Srinagar-Zoji La-Kargil. One...
by mihir.mehta
11 Sep 2020 10:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: BR Forum Feedback
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Re: BR Forum Feedback

@Suraj, I'd like to know the reason my post was deleted from the forum : India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2 There were no opinions there and it was all fact. What part of it do you feel was the noise. Is this an elitist place - where nothing is to be questioned. What i ha...
by mihir.mehta
11 Sep 2020 10:17
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: BR Forum Feedback
Replies: 1178
Views: 294216

Re: BR Forum Feedback

@Suraj, I'd like to know the reason my post was deleted from the forum : India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2 There were no opinions there and it was all fact. What part of it do you feel was the noise. Is this an elitist place - where nothing is to be questioned. What i had...
by mihir.mehta
11 Sep 2020 10:13
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

High initial costs are always there in the initial phases of a deployment. Once infra is set up, stabilizes, costs come down to a lower threshold. Correct. This is not a point understood by most of the media, or even the retired general types who have doom and gloom messages. I have several concern...
by mihir.mehta
11 Sep 2020 09:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

mihir.mehta wrote:Deleted
@Suraj, Why was this post deleted. I think this was where i had put a comment about Doklam ? - in reponse to Ramana's comments
There was no rant here. Besides - ppl are entitled to their opinions.
by mihir.mehta
10 Sep 2020 21:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Views: 1742002

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Reduced valuations for major IPOs due to app ban, cancellation of contractors and tenders for infrastructure, I guess those aren't major economic costs? They are - very small given the size of their economy . And given how this govt is handling our economy(Even without covid) - it'll take us a deca...
by mihir.mehta
10 Sep 2020 20:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

What do we do to ensure that (assuming this is sorted amicably) Chinese don't do this in the future. Exactly what we have been doing in the past 5-7 days. Gain tactical advantage and show intent that we are not afraid of a fight to defend our position and objective. What we've really been doing is ...
by mihir.mehta
10 Sep 2020 17:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

I like to think that we'll soon see the Chinese build a new road to Moldo skirting the eastern bank of Spangur Tso. Its not difficult to build such a road. That too would be visible from our positions on the ridge lines but out of range of small arms fire at least. Unlike Chushul (Which we can acces...
by mihir.mehta
10 Sep 2020 16:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

^^ We will hear on that soon enough given what Shiv Aroor has hinted in one on his tweets that I had posted on the last page. He seemed to be suggesting re-adjustment in the Dumchule/Domcheck area. What is heartening to hear is that GOI, once it made up its mind to counter the Chinese, it has gone ...