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- 10 Nov 2011 13:11
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
darshan: patience. Our day just dawned a scant 64 years ago. And our days, while not as long as Brahma's days, are atleast as long as, say Indira's day. Oh, and about the "Romanis" - gypsies of Europe, I studied their genetics back in graduate school. definately of N Indian origin. Actuall...
- 10 Nov 2011 11:06
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
Sushupti: Thank you for this detailed history lesson. I have made a copy to discuss this with my more gentile muslim acqaintences. :wink: But seriously, I read more or less the same thing in vol 1 of "Story of civilization" (our oriental heretage), but without the detailed math. And just e...
- 10 Nov 2011 10:16
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
SBajwa Your Post on the Abductions of Hindu/Sikh women by Muslim Raiders was excellent. This reminds me of the Interview of Imran(Taliban)Khan who was asked by a Journo (some years back) as to why women from the Indian Subcontinent fall for him. His Answer .. ? . "We always had for ourselves &...
- 10 Nov 2011 07:17
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
Shiv ji: Fair's recommendations are totally sensible. Its another matter if they are followed. I would not hold my breath. In the off chance that they were, we would see the most constipated bunch of military on the face of the earth.
- 10 Nov 2011 05:19
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
Shaastanga: Many others have added to the narrative I started about the abduction of Hindu and Sikh girls/women by mussalmans in overwhelming muslim majority areas of pre partition Punjab. SBajwa has done a particularly good job of providing a historical snapshot, while there are now added posts des...
- 10 Nov 2011 04:49
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-buck-stops-here/pakistan-anatomy-of-a-nation/215684?pfrom=home-topstories PAKISTAN: ANATOMY OF A NATION Straight from the horses' mouths (Banu Taseer and Mohammed Haneef). We can see the gloom and the disappointment seeing their country slowly slipping into anar...
- 10 Nov 2011 00:06
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: The IAF History Thread
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Re: The IAF History Thread
rajan ji: Excellent. I was, by comparison, entangled in thermodynamics!, and could not get away in time. Did you know R. Ravi Kumar, NL '69 - was with me in VS Hall. I heard he also passed away ('71). That was a small class of Naval Architects to begin with.
- 09 Nov 2011 23:44
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
If the Pathans decide to go, they go. Nothing the miserable pakjabis do will stop that. The Taliban have recently made overtures to India. I believe India should work with any and all pathan factions. Once the Pushtoon lands seceed, the paki will crumble quickly. India should already start signing a...
- 09 Nov 2011 23:32
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
because WKK's and powe elites are far from the rice paddies and jungle frontiers of the ganga-brahmaputra delta lands - as they always were Not to mention Kachativu. Only piece of land India voluntarily handed over to another country. By IG no less. Truly Dilli is far away. Here you go Theo THE SIN...
- 09 Nov 2011 21:41
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
Jaspreet ji: Let us not beat a dead horse. As I mentioned in my original post, my suggestion for khalistanis goes back a quite a while - a decade or so. The world has moved on. I had some family on the ground in the army in Kashmir (both hindu and sikh) at the time, and had more personal access to i...
- 09 Nov 2011 13:11
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
I think he missed the sarcasm of me imitating a JNU/ establishment person reaction would be. Parsuram- be prepared for these kind of responses. I will not withdraw my post as it expresses the life in denial mode which many key decision makers seem to be living. Well, aditya, I have obviously been a...
- 09 Nov 2011 12:48
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
Aditya_V: He is a Fascist/ RSS fanatic, he is lying he cannot be telling the truth. Just who the hell are you talking about. And what do you know of what time frame I'm talking about. Before you go calling people liars, people who have put their life on the line with long and hard service on the gro...
- 09 Nov 2011 11:54
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
Sbajwa/Parsuram ji: I had assumed that all these Kabila/Invader practices of Muslims in Punjab and adjoining areas were crushed and curbed by rule of Maharaja Ranjit Singh. I was surprised to read that pre-47, this still was prevalent in areas now under Paki occupition. Are there areas in India whe...
- 09 Nov 2011 10:55
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
Bajwa ji: Thank you for your detailed history lesson. I was just relating what I heard from my mother and grand mother about common abductions around where they grew up in far west Punjab, with 90% or so muslim populations. According to them, the practice of abducting Hindu/Sikh women had been going...
- 08 Nov 2011 23:46
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
jaspreet ji: sat sri aakal. I do not know why you consider me as creating a rift ("wedge"). The rift in Kashmir is already there. did Ranjeet Singh create a rift. No he did not. Kashmir was not islamist at that time. today, with the paki's active participation, it is. and the Khalistanis a...
- 08 Nov 2011 23:06
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
That will give those Sikhs a stake in keeping Kashmir in India, and drive a wedge between the islamists and the sikh community in Kashmir. A rather disappointing point of view. 1. Are Sikhs expandable? Why make Sikhs the enemies of some other community? Why not move Saxenas or Mathurs (or Thapliyal...
- 08 Nov 2011 19:48
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
Shiv ji: My point in bringing up the difficult times of my mother and grand mother when they lived in that overwhelming muslim majority area of India was to point out that most women in India are not aware that non muslim women in their own country lived under those conditions prior to 1947. Indeed,...
- 08 Nov 2011 17:23
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: The IAF History Thread
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Re: The IAF History Thread
To continue with my narrative, Our Thrmo class lecturer was adamant about not letting us go, war or no war, air raid or no air raid. And we actually saw that chutiya paf pilot coming straight at us (our class was at the front of the main building, on the left of the tower, looking at it from the out...
- 08 Nov 2011 16:58
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
I believe Hindus, Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists hostages of the Paki (that is what those residents of that place are) should be offered open asylum in India.
PS Thank you Rajan, will add.
PS Thank you Rajan, will add.
- 08 Nov 2011 15:41
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
shiv ji: I have a narrative for you in a post above.
- 08 Nov 2011 15:35
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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- 08 Nov 2011 13:25
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
Phillip: The differences have always been there. But those have nothing to do with demanding some "khili-stan". The basis, as usual, is economic, though it is couched in castist, racist terms. I do believe that the quickest resolution can also be economic. I had suggested at the thick of i...
- 08 Nov 2011 13:19
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
nachiketa: Thanks. rajanb, If you want to add anything, we can chk on that thread.
- 08 Nov 2011 13:03
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
Phillip: I would not give this story any more circulation that it already has received. The unvarnished fact is that the Sikh community is so deeply integrated in the rapidly expanding Indian economy that the broader Sikh community offers the most active and strong defense against the khali - stanis...
- 08 Nov 2011 12:54
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
rajanb: At risk of irritating admin beyond some red line, lets conclude our discussion of exciting times for a couple of 17 yr olds experiencing IAF/paf conflict, one that emphasized the almost casual superiority of IAF pilots over the likes of paf pilot"Afzal"(whose helmet, complete with ...
- 08 Nov 2011 10:30
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
As long as we are revisiting paki wars, I was away from home in 65 (Punjab, Kapurthala, about 60 miles from Lahore border), at IIT Kharagpur, WB (about 100 miles from the EPaki border). As it happened, I and my classmates saw IAF bring down two F86 Sabers from our classroom windows at about 10:30 A...
- 07 Nov 2011 10:41
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
Achjarya: I hope your uncle was with a bit more civilized paki than what I had to share living Qs with. All that time spent living with pakjabis certainly taught me a lot about their underlying (it is mostly "under" type, and also "lying" type)charecter (I use this term loosely)....
- 07 Nov 2011 10:01
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
As long as we are revisiting paki wars, I was away from home in 65 (Punjab, Kapurthala, about 60 miles from Lahore border), at IIT Kharagpur, WB (about 100 miles from the EPaki border). As it happened, I and my classmates saw IAF bring down two F86 Sabers from our classroom windows at about 10:30 AM...
- 07 Nov 2011 05:07
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
I'll take a shot at this. In '47, punjabis and pakjabis were about 2/3rd(guesstimate ca 65-68%). All mussalmans were ca 46%, including pakjabis). My guess now would be ca 22-25% Punjabis- Hindus and Sikhs.Prem wrote:Chetak,
Any idea , how many Punjabis in Indian Armed forces?
- 06 Nov 2011 18:11
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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chetak: Please do not paint with too wide a brush. Hindus and Sikhs of Punjab probably suffered the most, and lost the most in '47. Moreover, they dished out to the pakjabi mussalmans more than any mussalmans had dished out to in return too. Partly why those pakjabi mussalmans have spent their time ...
- 06 Nov 2011 08:15
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
Stephen Cohen's "The Future of Pakistan": First Chapter Theer was so much reading material posted on BRF yesterday that it took me till late yesterday to finish 2/3s of it. This one by Uneven Cohen is very pessimistic about Pakistan. Apart from his unqualified "Hindu oppression"...
- 06 Nov 2011 05:15
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
^^^^^^ Oh, but we should put bijli on the negative list, should we not, after all, according to the paki abduls, India provides them water with all the "power" removed from that water, after it goes over those damn dams. Why would we sell them the power so they "could make their water...
- 06 Nov 2011 04:22
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
To end the cuban missile crisis the US made a deal with the soviets to remove US missiles from Turkey. The media kept it mostly quiet and created a mythology of "they blinked first." Besides the only violent act during the crisis was that of Russians shooting down an American U2 spy plane...
- 05 Nov 2011 19:06
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
Sir, Your post is too full of exaggerations regarding American power. The US is a champion brinkmanship gold medal winner time and again. Recall Cuban missile crisis, with US setting up a cuba quarentine on the high seas. They did not win any medal in the Cuban Missile crisis although the western m...
- 05 Nov 2011 10:11
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
parsuramji, My revised one liner is: Its Paki blackmail to US not to repeat Abortabad raid lest the jihadis get the loose nukes. Its their deterrent against US. ramana ji: The US is a champion brinkmanship gold medal winner time and again. Recall Cuban missile crisis, with US setting up a cuba quar...
- 05 Nov 2011 10:02
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
shiv ji: this man cohne is similar to some variety of cadaverous slime whome I had the misfortune to see in action at a "peace" conference. he is a type of yahoodi who take upon themselves the job of standard bearars for monotheism. Therefore their extreme dislike for Hinduism and its daug...
- 05 Nov 2011 09:14
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
ramana ji: sat sri akal. Interesting post. The paki is entirely an opportunistic beast. There is no long term strategy, only goals, which are generally absurd, and any or all tactics are acceptable to them. The US, whether due to confusion and indecision, or due to some convoluted set of goals which...
- 05 Nov 2011 07:57
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
Ah, the news wires are burning up with accelerants provided (gratis) by the paki. The paki, self loving and swimming in an ocean of delusions, loves all this. So, I was forced to take a step back (Isite isn’t what it used to be), to use my more than jaundiced eyes on this - oh so comical - situation...
- 04 Nov 2011 20:01
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
(pathan foot soldier to pakjabi general:"you have never won a war, and we have never lost one"-anti soviet jehad, 1980s). Not to nitpick on such a fine post, but didn't the Pathans have their collective arses handed to them by the Indian army in Kashmir war of 1947-48, before Nehruvian mo...
- 04 Nov 2011 11:42
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
shiv ji: No matter the size of jazia payments, no amount can make the paki a strong, stable State. It is not in the paki's genes - or conversely, it is in its genes to be loot, rape, pillage, live for nothing pasand. Unless the west is prepared to pay out the net amount of the paki's GDP, and even t...