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by daulat
04 Apr 2006 18:34
Forum: Military Scenarios Archive
Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - Part V
Replies: 320
Views: 118514

I am not a good writer, and I lack domain knowledge with military stuff. So, without contribution from you Shankarji, and gurus like Singha, Daulat, YIP etc, this venture will fail. I solicited e-mails and till now, NOT ONE e-mail was received. dileep, you are a great writer, please keep up the goo...
by daulat
29 Dec 2005 19:40
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Lessons of 1962 War for a possible new Sino-India conflict
Replies: 222
Views: 70980

pray tell why US involvement is necessary? !?! Why would the US even care for Bhutan? There is no national interest at threat. The PLA are probing to test Bhutanese resolve. The King is stepping down, new democratic system being established... PLA will probe. THey will not do too much, since it will...
by daulat
22 Dec 2005 15:18
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Lessons of 1962 War for a possible new Sino-India conflict
Replies: 222
Views: 70980

Raj - yes we should have. but bewoor makes the point that we had not trained to do so in any realistic way. his contention is that the iaf tactical element would have been highly ineffective at best. this was not a crossing of the yalu river amongst the rolling korean hills, the geography was much m...
by daulat
22 Dec 2005 15:12
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

I think thats a correct interpretation. What is the point of military victory? (historically) it is always economic gain of some sort, loot at the lowest common denominator, or the right of taxation at a more abstract level. for us it could be not so much that but more of an economic safeguarding - ...
by daulat
18 Dec 2005 16:24
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

and in this great chess game, i note that we are warming up further with Mongolia and Japan, whilst our interest in the -stan's are already known. The situation with China will I think remain in a state of stability, but a stability that can only be maintained by constant vigil and a strong arm. Chi...
by daulat
18 Dec 2005 02:27
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

Want to pick up on two separate themes here 1. as part of cold start, we can initiate a massive interdiction air campaign immediately - not so much to blow up PA units, but rather to hit bridges, marshalling yards and road choke points - so that the PA cannot mobilise or get quickly to the front. if...
by daulat
16 Dec 2005 20:12
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

CDS is necessary but not sufficient. there has to be much more joint working - at the staff, and operational level. lets start at the staffs atleast and begin the planning process. also there must be a lot more rotation of junior officers between the services on short detachments - admittedly diffic...
by daulat
16 Dec 2005 19:51
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

Anoop, yes I read that too recently. Very informative. The DZ does indeed look very small, but IMO, we should be prepared to make contested landings in places like that. Given sufficient air/naval support, we could have still inserted paras there - perhaps with special low level drop tactics. we did...
by daulat
16 Dec 2005 14:46
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

RayC - you are identifying topics worthy of PhD's in their own right! :)
by daulat
15 Dec 2005 20:54
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

Anoop, you are painting an Op Cactus scenario, which with respect I think we can fairly easily deal with. Imagine that there is a coup in Madagascar (substantially larger than the Maldives) and the legitimate government requests RSA and India for help. There is a largish population and numerous site...
by daulat
15 Dec 2005 19:27
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

vick - we could do it for IOR, our sealift capacity is almost sufficient and our threats more or less managable, and we would be helped by important partners - RSA, Aus, friends in the islands and unkil and uk would probably help out with comms, sigint and even airlift beyond IOR we may not be the d...
by daulat
15 Dec 2005 18:50
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

Vick wrote:Anoop, will the IRDF be also tasked with making contested entries into theaters or will this force be mainly a holding force?



must have capability for contested entry - almost essential, or its like the UN missions
by daulat
15 Dec 2005 15:33
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

I don't think we need to occupy pakistan in the next war, if their military collapses, there will be an internal regime change at the least, revolution at worst. The ugly nuke question lingers... but you can hypothesize about the non punjabis forming their own breakaway regions, a la iraqi kurds, an...
by daulat
13 Dec 2005 21:18
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

YIP - your point about arty is a good one. can a chinook really lift a 155mm? I have seen them lift 105mm, but is a bofors size unit really viable? if we're looking for indian solutions, perhaps increased rapidity of rail deployment for arty is an option? we can preposition spares and ammo in key ar...
by daulat
13 Dec 2005 20:40
Forum: Military Scenarios Archive
Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - Part IV
Replies: 312
Views: 154457

Re: Strategic Command

does anyone know wht kind of systems the govt uses in the national strategic command? yes its known as the E X ecutive B ilateral O rganisational X fer system and is available to all key decision makers at their fingertips, and for some in a portable variant, usually carried in the briefcase of the...
by daulat
13 Dec 2005 04:06
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

wyu wrote:Sustainment issues.

And a MEU has its own transports in and out. Paras can't get the hell out Dodge on their own.


would an MEU be operating far inland? where the only access is by air until someone bashes a road through?
by daulat
13 Dec 2005 01:36
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

Another fast reply. Sir, You're looking at the wrong branch for the initial entry force. Though the USArmy is trying to build that capability. More likely than not, the 1st American force on the ground in an unantincipated action would be a Marine Expeditionary Unit (battalion size). why not 82nd o...
by daulat
12 Dec 2005 17:10
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

where are the places we may need to intervene in strength? 1. Indian Ocean islands - we have the capability already and the experience of having done it 2. Indonesian/Malaysian archipelago - political situation would have to really really be transformed for that to happen; our sea lift capability ca...
by daulat
12 Dec 2005 04:38
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: India-EU News & Analysis
Replies: 1560
Views: 129638

the vatican long supported fascist movements in europe, before and after ww2. during and after ww2, it helped nazis and croatian war criminals flee to south america ofcourse if you go back far enough into history, the popes have also personally tortured and raped their enemies too, e.g. cesare borgi...
by daulat
12 Dec 2005 04:27
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Doctrinal and other transformation essential for the IA
Replies: 142
Views: 51991

Thnxx Anoop for this site, its real great. [2] wht if enemy doesnt go for a shorter duration of war , say it doesnt respond where it put in all its major resources for battle rather than go for a longer duration of war , how will it play with logistics and reserve formations and also on over all ma...
by daulat
10 Dec 2005 01:54
Forum: Military Scenarios Archive
Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - Part IV
Replies: 312
Views: 154457

nav - you assume that pak is a rational entity, they have already demonstrated that they are far from it. the old cold war rules do not apply very well in this context
by daulat
08 Dec 2005 04:22
Forum: The Kargil Archive
Topic: Kargil Revisited - III
Replies: 132
Views: 63371

H Sen - a few thoughts 1. those amongst the NLI who could walk, walked 2. those that could not, died of the environment, casevac is not easy up there 3. memory of saurabh kalia and platoon was fresh a while back i refered on this thread to a book i found in a book shop (didn't buy) which another for...
by daulat
07 Dec 2005 14:21
Forum: The Kargil Archive
Topic: Kargil Revisited - III
Replies: 132
Views: 63371

with NH1A choked and the valley in ferment, maybe Mushy thought that this was the strong blow that would make the yindoos crumble once and for all were casualties from the shelling on NH1A ever released? Or was it just the effect of preventing any movement that was critical RayC, I believe you once ...
by daulat
07 Dec 2005 04:22
Forum: The Kargil Archive
Topic: Kargil Revisited - III
Replies: 132
Views: 63371

does anyone know if there was a hike in terrorist incidents in the valley after the troops were pulled out of CI duties? from memory, I don't recall many incidents surely, the jehadis would have been ideally positioned to bite the IA logistics at the time? So Kargil was just a feint to let these guy...
by daulat
02 Dec 2005 00:15
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Lessons of 1962 War for a possible new Sino-India conflict
Replies: 222
Views: 70980

KMT assumed all the territorial rights of the previous chinese administration. when forced to flee to taiwan, they set up in their eyes a 'temporary shop'. they even have MP's for parts of the mainland they have never been to. not sure if they are developing an independent mindset... haven't seen en...
by daulat
01 Dec 2005 15:01
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Lessons of 1962 War for a possible new Sino-India conflict
Replies: 222
Views: 70980

as far as I know, the KMT in Taiwan also support the Chinese position on borders with India... things may have changed, but I have not seen anything of late to counter this view
by daulat
30 Nov 2005 22:23
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Lessons of 1962 War for a possible new Sino-India conflict
Replies: 222
Views: 70980

shiv, i believe the train lines run across wide open plateaus, generally easy for air interdiction in my limited understanding of such things

the real point of the rail line is though that the tibs are screwed for good now
by daulat
29 Nov 2005 23:22
Forum: Military Exercises Archive
Topic: Cope India 2005 - Kalaikunda AFS - Part II
Replies: 254
Views: 94281

i see that we are proposing a "Mission Hawai Jingo" - cool! I am sure that the IAF will like nothing more than to have a carefully selected jingo amongst us to ride in the backseat of a Su30! :)
by daulat
29 Nov 2005 02:19
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Lessons of 1962 War for a possible new Sino-India conflict
Replies: 222
Views: 70980

from memory of pushpinder singh's book on the IAF, he hints that logistics on our side was not great. i doubt that even baghdogra could have handled fast jets, possibly gauhati. certainly kalaikunda/dum dum would have been too far for nefa. in ladakh, barring srinagar, not too many options also PLAA...
by daulat
29 Nov 2005 01:07
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Lessons of 1962 War for a possible new Sino-India conflict
Replies: 222
Views: 70980

at this stage PLAAF was Mig15 and Mig 17 right? No Mig19's as yet? Hunters should have been able to properly intercept Il28's

i suppose another problem would have been the lack of jet capable IAF bases in the NE and Ladakh
by daulat
25 Nov 2005 01:27
Forum: Military Exercises Archive
Topic: Cope India 2005 - Kalaikunda AFS - Part II
Replies: 254
Views: 94281

I call that madrasa mental mastur****** F-7MP powered by musharraf-hawaadar and fuelled by jinn power can beat any supersonic fighter. Alas it does not work in subsonic speed regiem where ordinary mortel fight :twisted: sorry, i forgot, its the H&D way of saying "Frenchies wouldn't sell us any ...
by daulat
25 Nov 2005 00:16
Forum: Military Exercises Archive
Topic: Cope India 2005 - Kalaikunda AFS - Part II
Replies: 254
Views: 94281

Harry are you sure that shouldn't go in the Humour thread?

I can just wonder at the tests where an M2K-5 gets its butt whipped by an F-16A and F7 :)
by daulat
24 Nov 2005 23:19
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Lessons of 1962 War for a possible new Sino-India conflict
Replies: 222
Views: 70980

anoop, i am not disputing what you say, i was responding to satya
by daulat
24 Nov 2005 20:39
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Lessons of 1962 War for a possible new Sino-India conflict
Replies: 222
Views: 70980

the chinese are mostly on a plateau and motorable roads are easy. just think, when they cross over, do we really want them to have good roads to drive down, or would we rather they slogged their way over rough terrain? away from their roads their lines get clogged and if we fall back, ours get bette...
by daulat
24 Nov 2005 14:16
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Lessons of 1962 War for a possible new Sino-India conflict
Replies: 222
Views: 70980

some of the previous discussions on BR on this topic talked of strategic surprise working for China against India. Given those conditions, the military response was almost predictable (with 20/20 hindsight of course). We know more now, we can deal with it better
by daulat
23 Nov 2005 22:17
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Lessons of 1962 War for a possible new Sino-India conflict
Replies: 222
Views: 70980

Satya - think what containment means. if PLA cannot break through to the Brahmaputra, their forces will be pretty decimated, their lines very stretched and their infrastructure in Tibet strained. IA can counter attack and the PLA will leave a long line of corpses back to the LAC. but beyond that, th...
by daulat
23 Nov 2005 18:55
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Lessons of 1962 War for a possible new Sino-India conflict
Replies: 222
Views: 70980

there is a military strategic policy vis a vis china. it is about containment and balance and therefore maintaining an ugly status-quo. however one that is tipped over by chinese nuclear capabilities, hence agni, etc. as china modernises her armed forces, to maintain the ugly status quo we have to b...
by daulat
23 Nov 2005 18:45
Forum: Military Exercises Archive
Topic: Cope India 2005 - Kalaikunda AFS - Part II
Replies: 254
Views: 94281

personally i am happy if rand et al think iaf is dhoti clad rice eaters. think who is liable to have a war with us, and think about who will be lifting whose dhoti for a spanking when the real deal goes down...
by daulat
22 Nov 2005 14:51
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Profiles in Heroism: Archive
Replies: 422
Views: 121227

Obituary of Hon. Captain Umrao Singh VC

London Telegraph


When a friend told him he could sell his VC for thousands of pounds he refused to part with it, saying that such an act would dishonour his comrades who fell in battle when he won his medal.

by daulat
18 Nov 2005 17:12
Forum: Military Exercises Archive
Topic: Cope India 2005 - Kalaikunda AFS - Part I
Replies: 337
Views: 126433

the Mig21 is quite tiny compared to most of the others, i was shocked when i saw one up close just how small it really is. given the Bison config, and its inherent T/W and manoueverability - i am sure its very potent. pity about the short legs! 4 bison with 2 Mig29's is my fav mix for handling incom...

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