To think for decades India put up with this crap.Venkarl wrote:Found this Gem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZkByrLayqw
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- 21 Jun 2020 22:24
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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- 21 Jun 2020 07:17
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What I know is this. CCP and it's pet dog PLA doesn't do anything without thoroughly planning it out. If they are where they are, it's because they are following a well laid out plan. And what that plan is, we are still confused here in brf. We need a consensus on why Chinese are doing what they ar...
- 21 Jun 2020 05:07
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New Bridge in Galwan valley .. https://twitter.com/MarkKumar3/status/1274402486888001536/photo/1 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ea-WSvBUYAAincD?format=jpg&name=900x900 Who is this idiot posting pictures like these on Twitter at a time like this? I am sorry, but this really bothers me, can someone ...
- 21 Jun 2020 04:55
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This is where you make mistake of reading Chinese, they want to assert themselves while they are strong and others weak. They want this war , they have prepared for this war. Just look at the CPEC command, porkies deploy a general rank officer into joint command last December with Chinese. He is no...
- 21 Jun 2020 04:45
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Who is this idiot posting pictures like these on Twitter at a time like this?
- 21 Jun 2020 04:40
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Thing is, if this becomes a total war situation, Chinese will lose a lot (as will we). These types of total war loses might be enough to embolden Taiwan to declare independence. Can it happen - absolutely, Xi’s behavior as of late has been very aggressive. But does he want it to happen? I think it’s...
- 21 Jun 2020 01:32
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I know the Chinese are phenomenal with civil engineering and road construction but how did they get tanks and artillery onto the Depsang Plains? A cursory look does not turn up any roads on their side of the LAC and G-219 is 80km-100 km away across difficult terrain. The Chinese are deployed/massin...
- 21 Jun 2020 00:25
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I think I figured out what’s going on. Don’t think I am going to post on an open forum. Keeping my fingers crossed that I am right & this works.
- 20 Jun 2020 23:58
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- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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I think its now a full blown internal 'civil war' of sorts between BIF & ModiJi/BJP haters on the one side, and BJP on the other. Its no longer about China being the real enemy here. Ajai Soothia has now joined the ranks of Burka Bibi, Adhothi, Pankaj Misra, Rana Ayyub and scores of other perve...
- 20 Jun 2020 23:52
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https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/india-china-border-face-off-significant-chinese-buildup-emerges-at-depsang-plains/articleshow/76475166.cms A significant Chinese buildup at the Depsang plains, which lie close to the Daulat Beg Oldie airfield, has emerged as another area of concern ...
- 20 Jun 2020 23:31
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We are a generation of reality TV consumers. War is not reality TV. Last few pages show how hard it has become to trust the Govt to manage the communication as it sees fit. Its a paradox if we can't trust the Govt on communication while we trust it to defend our lives and our country. Honestly, I d...
- 20 Jun 2020 22:33
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Just when I posted ^, it seems GOI has given IA clearance to use fire-arms.
- 20 Jun 2020 22:17
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I disagree with this for many reasons: - Their forces are all sitting ducks, just there for show - They haven’t moved their holding corps to other sectors in the LAC. I am sure there are other reasons that a military professional can identify. I am pretty sure this is a very highly escalated versio...
- 20 Jun 2020 21:17
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it almost seems Chinese wanted us to escalate. We need to add that into calculation before escalating. I disagree with this for many reasons: - Their forces are all sitting ducks, just there for show - They haven’t moved their holding corps to other sectors in the LAC. I am sure there are other rea...
- 20 Jun 2020 20:04
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I think GOI’s communication strategy is good. If they say too much, then they betray to the Chinese where we think our weak spots are. Everything you say can be used against you - in a situation like this, where there is a lot of unpredictability, it’s best to stay quiet. If GOI says anything of val...
- 20 Jun 2020 19:56
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No, a part of Galwan valley is in Chinese territory (and it’s undisputed).AshishAcharya wrote:Btw is whole of galwan valley Indian right? Then why is Google maps showing it as part of Hotan Prefecture? Is Google appeasing China?
- 20 Jun 2020 19:47
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- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Farmer-warrior-hermit is saying that LOC will be settled before LAC. Take it for what it’s worth. The good thing is 5 years of artillery pounding the Pakistani’s must have degraded them.
- 20 Jun 2020 11:56
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Looks like either many were sleeping on the job or deliberately let it slide. How else can you explain India not stepping up pressure when the initial movements were done by Chinese to start building permanent structures?? Chinese start protesting the moment we start doing anything. Here, we let th...
- 20 Jun 2020 11:30
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Let’s hope they aren’t making the same mistake in the Depsang plains and are physically stopping Chinese construction.
They can negotiate once the construction is stoped - it it might be another Pangong lake situation, where they have overwhelming logistical advantages.
They can negotiate once the construction is stoped - it it might be another Pangong lake situation, where they have overwhelming logistical advantages.
- 20 Jun 2020 11:23
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IntimidationAditya_V wrote:What can be the miltary purpose of moving 200 trucks in a narrow Gorge, supplies, ammo construction equipment- but military they can be sitting ducks.
- 20 Jun 2020 09:10
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The only new intel I got for Coupta's handwaving was that there is new trouble at the end of DBO road near Depsang plains. This is at the end of our logistics trail.
- 20 Jun 2020 07:52
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OK. In the meantime, I noticed this part about the new bridge: Indian Army Finishes Constructing Strategic Bridge Over Galwan River Which China Tried To Stop - Swarajya The four-span bridge is situated 3 kilometre East of the Shyok river-Galwan river confluence with Patrolling Point 14 - which is s...
- 20 Jun 2020 07:45
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IMO PM’s statement about no Chinese occupying Indian territory had to be referencing Galwan - otherwise it doesn’t make sense (forget about the lake - what about Aksai Chin etc). There is no way he would give it up in a speech like that. I think a 1 line clarification from FM or something like that ...
- 20 Jun 2020 06:58
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Are the Chinese still at the other areas (Galwan, Hot Springs etc) or have they left?
This might not be over by a long shot.
This might not be over by a long shot.
- 20 Jun 2020 02:55
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I think GOI should play the long game. First take out Pakistan, build infrastructure, then go **** the Chinese. 2-3 years, it can happen before this election.
- 20 Jun 2020 02:45
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China claims the Galwan valley is their territory. Modi doesn't counter it.Now Modi claims that there was no intrusion and no Indian land was captured. He didn't mention Galwan valley at all. So is the Indian government supporting the Chinese narrative? This is ridiculous. A simple statement on the...
- 20 Jun 2020 02:31
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Even in Pangong lake - finger-4 ridge-line is of no particular value. There is nothing much happening on the Indian side for a 24X7 monitoring and if they ever need to peek into Indian side they could have used a drone. It is of significance only if they are planning a direct attack, that too artil...
- 20 Jun 2020 02:17
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IMO, India must fix Pakistan this winter & take them off the chessboard. Doesn’t have to do much other than degrade their war fighting capabilities - take out their air-force & armor. With the UTization of J&K, 5th Column has been fixed. The only way any sane leader will commit India to ...
- 20 Jun 2020 01:52
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Finger 4-8 was effectively gone during Kargil when the Chinese built that road.
That’s the hard reality. The reason Indian troops couldn’t fight back was because the Chinese had a road from which they could truck in soldiers by the 100’s, while Indian troops had to walk past that narrow cliff path.
That’s the hard reality. The reason Indian troops couldn’t fight back was because the Chinese had a road from which they could truck in soldiers by the 100’s, while Indian troops had to walk past that narrow cliff path.
- 20 Jun 2020 01:25
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- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Interesting times ahead. China at the Border and situation tense. NaMo just came on TV and basically told Chinese that we are ready. I am #WithNaMo . Its time we teach these Chinese a lesson. As they say - Some Goals are so worthy, it glorious to die trying for them. To me it sounded like he was ba...
- 20 Jun 2020 00:55
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Honestly, if what happened at Galwan had happened at Finger 4 a month ago, maybe that Finger 4 build up would not have happened. And the only reason Galwan happened was because troops were so upset at the loss of a CO, they disobeyed orders and took the fight to the other side. If nothing else, I ho...
- 20 Jun 2020 00:29
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PM Modi didn’t say much of anything - very mixed messaging. By saying Chinese aren’t occupying any Indian land or posts, he left room for himself to back off - but he didn’t close the door to further escalations. Not sure what’s going on. Maybe he wants to keep the deployment going for a few months,...
- 19 Jun 2020 21:35
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The headline is misleading, if you watch the video, they acknowledge that disengagement has not happened anywhere other than Galwan.Sumair wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYtVD5cn54s&t=28s
No disengagement by China in Galwan Valley
- 19 Jun 2020 21:21
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I don’t understand this nonsensical statement, seems like they decided to accept the status quo: Breaking now! @PMOIndia’s comments at all-party meet on India-China issue: “Nobody has entered our territory. Neither has anyone captured any of our posts.” “20 of our men were martyred, but those who da...
- 19 Jun 2020 21:10
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Actually they have built access roads down into the valley on their side. That is how they have got those 100 vehicles which include bulldozers and other earth moving machinery down to the river bed. So they can go back the way they came. But if India decides to take the intiative and attack with a...
- 19 Jun 2020 20:52
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To me Saurav Jha is the best analyst out there. He says things Jingos don’t like to hear, takes a lot of abuse for it & has ended up right so far.debadutta wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/SJha1618/sta ... 7646328833
Only 5-10 killed as per Saurav Jha
His twitter feed is not pretty.
- 19 Jun 2020 20:35
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In the Galwan sector, China has advanced about 4.5 km. The LAC was 5 km from the DBO road. At the time of the clash the PLA was a 500-700 meters away on the other side of the Shyok river plus numerous positions 1-2 kms behind that forward position and then about 100 vehicles 5 kms behind. When the ...
- 19 Jun 2020 20:23
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CHINA’S STRATEGIC ASSESSMENT OF THE LADAKH CLASH China aiming for what it achieved in the 1962 war. https://warontherocks.com/2020/06/chinas-strategic-assessment-of-the-ladakh-clash/ Interesting article. I think they will only settle the border after an unsettled border becomes more a liability for...
- 19 Jun 2020 10:05
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The fact is , we have precedence before , with present govt it was on doklam . If negotiation had failed we wouldn't have sent our men to inspect those sites . They backstabbed on us . Now if the status quo remains unchanged , GOI have to answer . Chinese made an agreement to withdraw, they withdre...
- 19 Jun 2020 09:41
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Why this non sense being peddled ?? GOI is quite aware that a large buildup is going on but what it have to do with the latest incidence. ? After lengthy negotiation , we did a huge mistake trusting the chinese to honor the agreed process of disengagement & pull back to points agreed by senior ...