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by RayC
21 Mar 2010 17:24
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Last I remember is that an Armd Regt is of 45 tanks. Correct Sir. The number 55 takes 45 Active+10 Reserve tanks per regiment. The reserve number goes up in case of units with older tanks like T-55 and Vijantas, purely due to the serviceability related issues. Also, it is interesting to see that th...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 17:07
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Last I remember is that an Armd Regt is of 45 tanks. Nothing wrong with the Arjun if I go by what BRF and Shukla says. But to assume that Rahul and some of the BRF feel the Army is dumb and they know all, then there is something very worrisome, unless it is proved. If it is proved, I will join the b...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 16:13
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

What a laugh at 75 one is still in active service! for the record. http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?p=841630#p841630 .......... it is likely that he would have retired by that time, am I correct ? :rotfl: No, in active service to be NOW in the DRDO! I thought there was only one PC Sor...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 15:37
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

for the last time, I've not called the a rmy dumb, you are (again) raising allegations that are absolutely false. neither have I *ever* used mod powers in an argument. kindly quit this barrage of personal attacks. I know you have problems with me, but kindly don't disrupt this thread in your blind ...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 15:02
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

it's not as if GOI was going to deny funds required for setting up arjun infra.
That is news.

How many defence deficiencies have been made up?

And I am sure it is the Army's fault!

The Army is made up gladiators!
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 14:54
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

If what RayC tries to project that as interim then why not buy T-72S to match the pak T-80 in numbers and then later on went for the upgrade path ? So what i'm saying is this interim business is just hogwash, the way Army went with 1000 more order without rectifying the problems encountered in T-90...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 14:46
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Railways Thread
Replies: 3937
Views: 696490

Re: Indian Railways Thread

Railways ad goof-up: Delhi in Pakistan, Kolkata in Bay of Bengal Heads will roll. That is how the buck gets passed. Mamata is a unique creature! She is eyeing the CM's seat. Hopefully we are not at sea then! :rotfl: :rotfl: I have no objection to having some Pakistan territory to be renamed Delhi! ...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 14:42
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

A few years back, tanks were sent to Avadi for overhaul and refit. We know the story of how good it was done, wherein in had to be taken back again. Since you know people, just go and ask Lt Gen Jat Verma. I have visited Avadi myself. Good for photo op! :rotfl: I am not defending Avadi. I am just m...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 14:11
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Thus, in the interim T 90 is not the best, but best what money can buy rather than be totally at the mercy of Pakistan! huh! During Op. Parakram which tank faced the Pakistani Armour, T-72? or T-90? What is that super duper qualitites so visible in T-90 that needed against Pakistan T-80 and why not...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 14:07
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

:roll: I have no quibbles with you at all. All I would appreciate is that you establish your credentials to indicate that the are more intelligent and wiser than those you call as 'dumb'. If you prove so, I will not complain. I sure find it unfair that a person who has not interacted with the Army ...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 13:52
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion
Replies: 929
Views: 309565

Re: BSF,CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion.

Could one give the statistics as to how many women are at the border?
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 13:38
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Since I find there are great tacticians of Armoured Warfare, and such learned folks, let us have their views as to what is the tactics involved in such a war. Of course, one could google, but let us have it in the Indo Pak context. I would be grateful since I could write a paper based on such inputs...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 13:24
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Fine. Let us assume that the T 90 is a lemon, gentlemen. Arjun is a great tank (which most do not deny and rightly so, if one goes by technical specifications and more). Let us assume that the Arjun passes muster. Good. Now how long will it take to have it mass produced to replace the depleting tank...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 12:51
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Women in Combat
Replies: 578
Views: 132735

Re: Women in Combat

The interesting part is if the women had to qualify to join as per the men's standards, then very few will qualify. And even if they qualified, if they went through the same rigours of training, then one wonders. Either way, the desired level of recruitment and commission would not be met, leaving t...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 12:40
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

[quote="Rahul M"] Gajraj is an Indian product? Cosmetic changes are good, but the skeleton remains videshi! Your bias against the Army is very pronounced and is so evident. You have the temerity to call the Indian Army dumb or words to that effect. I daresay that you are sole authority on ...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 12:25
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Avadi

Note BMP 3 is a JV with Russia.

Clever thinking!
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 12:20
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Rahul M, With T-90, Avadi was getting rushed into producing certain Generals pipe dream. Don't blame Avadi. Skill and manpower shortages are well known. Arjun Tank is a project that Avadi never did before, i,e, they were handed over the drawings, trained and asked to make it. Entirely new concept f...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 09:32
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Small Arms Thread
Replies: 4653
Views: 1438733

Re: Small Arms Thread

^^ They would be mounted on vehicles. At least that is the general role of HMGs. We have used HMG very effectively in Op Intrusion Dalunang in the Kargil Sector when I was commanding a battalion. We brought down a Pak bunker with this weapon. But then manpower was the issue! Though this is a SA thr...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 09:14
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Intelligence & National Security Discussion
Replies: 4621
Views: 1363733

Re: Intelligence & National Security Discussion

The great game with China, India Only a strip of sixteen miles of intervening Indian territory at one point in Bangladesh's northern borders prevents Bangladesh from having a direct border with China. If during any physical conflict between India and China, any push through by Chinese forces across...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 09:06
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

The Pakistanis use discarded turrets of tanks with minor modification as 'pill boxes' on the DCB. Very ingenuous and effective too. How are they powered? Generators? No. They are just like the concrete pillboxes which are flushed into the DCB. The turret pillboxes are overground and so the situatio...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 09:04
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Small Arms Thread
Replies: 4653
Views: 1438733

Re: Small Arms Thread

Adding muscle: Army begins hunt for heavy machine guns Fine. Who will carry them? All personnel of an infantry battalion have a fixed task and there is no surplus or spare people. We are adding a plethora of support weapons and depleting the actual bayonet strength that is required to assault, capt...
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 08:53
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

The Pakistanis use discarded turrets of tanks with minor modification as 'pill boxes' on the DCB. Very ingenuous and effective too.
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 08:46
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

chackojoseph wrote:
I did immediately in your yahoo.co.uk mail. Can you check?
You have got mail!
by RayC
21 Mar 2010 08:30
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Somnath, That is an interesting thought. Quantity over quality. I am not too aware of the production time that will be required to churn out adequate number of Arjuns for the new raisings and also for replacement of the depleting fleet. So, maybe to fill the void in the interim, to have T 90 may hav...
by RayC
20 Mar 2010 20:49
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

One does not get submerged in sand, no matter what tank is used.

One does not go into soft sand. These areas are known on both sides of the border.
by RayC
20 Mar 2010 20:46
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

chackojoseph wrote:
:D We are on the armour thread. I lived in Army and visited DRDO. Will mail you.
Awaiting you mail.

Lived? or Worked?
by RayC
20 Mar 2010 14:45
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

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by RayC
20 Mar 2010 13:57
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Join the gravy train to realise it! ;) I have heard from the services that. DRDO has different explanation. So, I do not want to get into that. Just visit their establishment and enjoy their hospitality. Visit Army establishment and check their hospitality. It is lousy compared to the DRDO. In the ...
by RayC
20 Mar 2010 13:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion
Replies: 929
Views: 309565

Re: BSF,CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion.

Aditya G wrote:
RayC; have you witnessed/heard of offensive Mi-8/17 ops? Are they a regular feature?
No.

Not in my time.

Except against Tiger Hill.

If I meet Harry Lidder, I will ask him about this op and the use of gunships!
by RayC
20 Mar 2010 13:39
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Actually, we want the Moon. Can you give it? If so, good! Moon may be not , But do you want more Arjun ? :D That is for the Govt to decide. Has this Govt done anything to bridge the yawning gap that the deficiencies indicate that Indian Armed Force are 'nude'? Rajiv Gandhi and the Congress may have...
by RayC
20 Mar 2010 13:24
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

the question is what happened to the crews of the Merkava And what happens to the crew of T series when the same firepower is rained on them We are soldiers and not chocolate cream soldiers. (GB Shaw Arms and the Man). Sure, we don't want to die fruitlessly. But then it is upto the Govt! Even if th...
by RayC
20 Mar 2010 13:20
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

I would like to just say one thing. Unlike those who have been attuned to the psychological affliction of the body bag syndrome, this has still not permeated to the officers and soldiers of the IA. Namak, Nam and Nishan is still our credo. We believe that the Govt is trying its best to equip us and ...
by RayC
20 Mar 2010 13:06
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

chackojoseph wrote: The project hanging for more funds is a point which I find it hard to believe? India would have shut down CVRDE after Arjun induction?
Join the gravy train to realise it! ;)
by RayC
20 Mar 2010 13:05
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

I still have kept the mail sent to you and the reply you sent to me when I admired the literary skills, almost 1.5 years back. So, there is no discovery. The project hanging for more funds is a point which I find it hard to believe? India would have shut down CVRDE after Arjun induction? Send me an...
by RayC
20 Mar 2010 13:02
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

52 IDF Merkava tanks were damaged during the war against Hizbullah in Lebanon. 50 tanks were hit by anti-tank missiles and two were damaged by roadside bombs, according to the Ministry of Defense Merkava tank program administration. Happens Will not happen to Arjun or T 90? When you wear the uniform...
by RayC
20 Mar 2010 12:54
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

I will jog your memory. There are 2 generals known for rescuing the project. They have been responsible for entire setup, even vendor selection. One is a COAS, mind you. I understand about the lives being lost. Its because of shoddy equipment from DPSU's. Why blame DRDO? DRDO has had hits and misse...
by RayC
20 Mar 2010 12:32
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

That is what I am trying to tell you. There is a procedure where the left hand meets the right hand periodically to review. I understand your point. But, you are looking at the core issue here. You are from Army, you will know whom to ask. Why the goof ups have happened. Provided they tell the trut...
by RayC
20 Mar 2010 12:20
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

You have answered the maladies of this program by counter questioning me. I have kept repeating that the left hand does not know what the right hand has been doing. That is what I am trying to tell you. There is a procedure where the left hand meets the right hand periodically to review. And yet, o...
by RayC
20 Mar 2010 12:10
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 787405

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

The wider points of the GSQR's that can be in the public has been already put up on the article History of Arjun Tank. Arjun Tank GSQR is a pointed one. Please read the History of the Tank as wrote it. The first GSQR was also kept slippery. The final laid down requirement was in 1994. It does not a...