You're looking at the wrong branch for the initial entry force. Though the USArmy is trying to build that capability. More likely than not, the 1st American force on the ground in an unantincipated action would be a Marine Expeditionary Unit (battalion size).
Sir, I will post a much more detailed reply later but some quick thoughts. 1) Good warfighters make good peacekeepers/enforcers. Good peacekeepers/enforcers make dead warfighters. 2) Helos are not a replacement for tanks. They are extremely vulnerable to a ground based AD net. 3) Helos cannot do dan...
The Boer War was 1899-1902. Not sure how to answer you second question. Alot of the Boer War theories were borned out of the American Civil War. So, without Grant doing his work, I'm not sure how Kitchener would have done his fight. The Confederate Generals were definetely superior than Kitchener in...
wyu - the franco-prussian war would have been a full on war after the american civil war where a lot of technology was deployed (big guns, some rail mounted) and the prussians almost took paris. the boer war was more akin to a guerilla conflict with a powerful well organised (but badly led) army ag...
a) how effectively can it be employed? Deploying systems is one thing but having the force structure be able to employ these systems in an adaptive manner requires a great deal of time for training & experience gained. But, even that is possible but it leaves open the following question, It is ...
Sir, were you able to review the two links indicated earlier. I would be very grateful if I could receive yours, and RayC's, comments. Do you mean How Technology Failed in Iraq and Colonel Macgregor's Transformation: Implications for the Future ? Well, dinosaurs speaking. The points are extremely v...
You were stating complaints about logistics and inability to use 100 guns in an actual combat situation. Kargil was an example of a hostile combat situation, against Pakistani Army regulars. Admittedly they had no artillery or proper air support, but they did have the high ground. Which again, was ...
As for number of guns: 100 guns is at: 100 or more artillery guns to provide support to three infantry battalions as opposed to the Western doctrine of 64 guns for three infantry units. That is wrong for Western doctrine. An artillery battalion (4 batteries of 4-6 guns each) is the standard for a b...
That's very interesting, since from what I've been tracking about Indian defence purchases and doctrine, the IA is attempting to get the IAF to provide Close Air Suppor and is also relying on artillery. The "100 gun" concept. Assuming the use of both, it would appear that India should hav...
Col. Wyu, the Chinese doctrine of 'War Zone Campaign' you describe seems more similar to the Soviet system of 'Deep Battle' than to the U.S./Western model of 'AirLand Battle'. Going by the emphasis in FM 3.0 (admittedly a very sketchy reading of it) on manoeuver theory and 'mission tactic' orders, ...
Allow me to interject. The Chinese did have embarked on a new doctrine called the War Zone Campaign, basically a take off of the USArmy Field Manual 3.0 - Operations but modified to fit Chinese limitations. In essence, 3 stages set to attack any Chinese neighbours within 100 miles of the Chinese bor...
This thread has turned 'Cold'. Someone can kick'start' it. Sir, My apologies. I've been too busy with home after being a week away. Dogs were hyper. Horses forgot who I was and wouldn't come in to be groomed (ever tried to get a Belgian into a barn). Number One Daughter decided to celebrate with da...
would MLRS elements like Pinaka and Smerch make sense to attach into the IGBs or better to hold them at more strategic levels ? As a former Bde OpsO, if you want to give them to me, I will take them. I like to keep them further back and also use them to form my tactical reserve. How are the two Art...
I believe you've misunderstood. 100 guns are too many guns. For a bde size "Integrated Battle Group", you need no more than a battalion (4 batteries of 4 to 6 guns each). Anymore than that, then you will have idle guns because the front line inf would already be too busy directing the guns...
Lt. Col. Yu, I was under the impression that investments were being made at the Corps and above level in raising artillery divisions, as well as modernisation and standardisation at lower levels. Some of the C3 investments described should eventually improve their ability to concentrate fires, and ...
Sir, Your post makes sense to me and contradicts my understanding of YIP's article. Johann and the Brigadier, Gentlemen, I am still uneased at how 100 guns can fit into Cold Start. That's a corps lvl asset and quite frankly, too much overkill which translated into wasted LOG and time usage. The Russ...
Colonel and Johann, What are your comments on the YIP article on Cold Start when compared to whats happening in the West? Sir, YIP already stated that his article was geared towards those familiar with the InA. That pre-qualifications disqualifies me from making comments. I am still as confused as ...
Rajesh, That's the propaganda, err I mean the sales pitch, err I mean the Request for Proposal. It is not the military who is demanding this but the industry who is promising this. Those of us who raises the white flag got no vote in Congress nor Parliment in how to spend taxpayer's dollers in polit...
Rajesh, The age old arguement, the more you give them, the more they want. The demand for real time info is as great as the Brigadier states it to be. For the purposes outlined, everyone would want a realtime and continous feed to all recee intel (either ARV or UAV). For alot of the PGM TOT to work,...
Johann, You won't see much difference at the Battle Group level than what you're currently seeing today. Just that the engr recee, AT pltn, and mortar pltn would not be organic to the inf bns. If something heavy like Iraq or Afghanistan, CF/LF would like to re-enforce with another coy from one of th...
Rajesh, The demands on the NC system is continous. You don't know when and where you need to receive/send info from/to someone else and vice versa. The cmdr doesn't ask for the bellycrawler's position. He directly reads it off the bellycrawler's GPS (or rather, he have his 2IC do it). Johann, CF/LF ...
I suspect div would follow the way of corps (when was the last time we had a corps lvl exercise?) and that future div lvl actions would be individual bde actions as was the case with V Corps as a collection of individual div lvl actions in the Iraq War. RE: CF re-org Our light bns (3 RCR, 3 PPCLI, a...
I would like to point out the difference between Western and Russian/Chinese JF ops. In the Western model, all assets can be detached and assigned to non-organic units as the need arises. This is the case where you would have a FOO bellycrawler corporal telling a birdbrain full colonel what to hit, ...
And my army is banking on Net Centric Warfare - not a pretty sight Army, Maple Leaf, 07 July 2004, Vol. 7 No. 25 Armée, La feuille d'érable, Le 07 juillet 2004, Vol. 7 No. 25 Army Transformation to begin affectingmore units, branches By Paul Mooney Army Transformation will affect an increasing numbe...
Aside from the $500mil price tag not even for a working system, there is a serious fundamental flaw not stated in the article - that COMMSEC might as well be open speakers at a rock and roll concert - telling the enemy where you are. It is impossible to have radio silence since the computers must ta...
Originally posted by Niranjan Rao: Real-time is THE goal of network-centric warfare. No matter what the protocols are, NC should - ultimatly - overcome any lag/resistance or built-in lethargy in a system. washingtonpost.com Boeing Bets on 'Net-Centric' Warfare The Associated Press Tuesday, July 6, ...
Originally posted by Rudra Singha: posted by sandyj at CDF: some points of interest for us maybe ? --- America Converts First Division to New Format Sandyj was USMC, mostly working at the HQ level. He was too busy collecting info to evaluate. Thus, his postings should always be geared into looking ...
My much appreciated thanks. Something to add to my collection. I would like to switch back to Rwanda for a second. There are object lessons here and I think it would fit within the context of Cold Start. 1) Expectations must equal capabilities. LGen Dallaire was unaware of the options and capabiliti...
You're getting into a pet peeve of mine. I deplored the actions of my Lieutenant-General Romeo Dallaire. I feel sorry for the man but as a General, he was lacking. I grant that he recover as best he could after the Belgian pull out but way too little, way too late. LGen Dallaire was artillery, not i...
Sir, Your points finally understood but I'm not sure how NCW would have aided you. As I stated, NCW is an information system, not a recee system. Someone somewhere must go forth and stab in the dark. NCW would allow a faster response but you still need a recee - either by stealth or by force. Rajiv ...
Sir, I am at a very disadvantage. Please remember that I am a mere Lieutenant-Colonel and I do not realize the differences in btw corps, div, and bde lvls of executions. This being said, please allow me to proceed to things as I am to understand my execution. I understand the corps cmdr has 6 to 7 c...
Sir, I must advise you that not all projects, even American ones end in success. The High Technology Light Division remains the quinessential pink elephant and it remains to be seen if FCS (of which NCW is part of) is a gift from the war gods or the pink elephant to replace all pink elephants. Since...
Originally posted by RayC: While the concept of network centric operation may not be totally in place, one would not totally rule out that as there could be rather advanced work on the subject already in the pipeline. Its value in the outcome of battle through efficient resource management cannot b...
NW Ops is just advertising. It doesn't exist. We have a whole bunch of technological hurdles to bypass first, least of which is getting the proper software written. Us old dying to extinction dinosaurs also have very major problems with the concepts. NW Ops is about information and information, no m...
The information was always there before Network Centric Ops, even before computers and in real time. All you have to do is listen in on the radio traffic. It's not the information that's the problem. It's the information management that's the problem. Hence, that's why you have our current command s...
Sir, While I completely disagree with MGen Sandhu's read of the Wehrmacht Kampfgruppen, I'm not sure he's off the mark either in vis-a-vi the InA. I strongly doubt that any development has gone down to the battalion level and certainly not the Network Centric Operations that we in the West are talki...