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by Alok_N
06 Apr 2007 10:51
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

Since, its benefits are not scientific in nature, its largely a moot point to compare religions based on their scientific content. that was not the assertion ... religion does not contribute to scientific knowledge ... I don't believe anyone was arguing that ... however, several other points were i...
by Alok_N
06 Apr 2007 10:02
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

I don't think that was the response I got when I quoted Praful Bidwai's article here. every rule exists so that exceptions can be highlighted ... ProFool is one such ... Uneven, KhaliPeeli, IAss, etc etc have been thoroughly deconstructed ... in Derrida terms, they are "under erasure" ......
by Alok_N
06 Apr 2007 09:59
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

In that case, you will have to look elsewhere to reinforce that comment. :) To be honest with you, I used to think exactly the same way till I started reading up on biology and found that the real pushers and movers were hard core geneticists and biochemists. I haven't read the book yet, so I can't...
by Alok_N
06 Apr 2007 09:27
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

the circle completes as follows: Thapar secured her doctorate under A. L. Basham at the School of Oriental and African Studies, London University in 1958. D. D. Kosambi spent some time at the Institute of Advanced Studies, Princeton. In London, he started his long-lasting friendship with indologist ...
by Alok_N
06 Apr 2007 09:22
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

not just in India ... the Thapar Menace is far reaching ... During the 2006 Californian Hindu textbook controversy, Thapar joined Michael Witzel in opposing changes to school textbooks dealing with Indian history, arguing that while Hindus have a legitimate right to a fair and culturally sensitive r...
by Alok_N
06 Apr 2007 08:33
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

Candyman, I hope you are not going to launch into a lucknow bashing tirade ... :) anyway, there is a lot of truth in the "doctor/engineer" mindset disease ... even my mostly enlightened father didn't appreciate the fact that I had quit IIT within days of joining ... "you are throwing ...
by Alok_N
06 Apr 2007 06:31
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

Schrodinger's writing inspired the discovery of genes. thanks for posting the link to that book ... I wasn't aware of it ... I read a few pages and it is very interesting ... it also reinforces my comment to Johann that "fundamental discoveries in biology will be made by physicists" ... 8)
by Alok_N
05 Apr 2007 19:48
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

Dont be surprised there is a significant number of even high energy physics experimentalists who believe in faith based evidence of God. :wink: you took away my option to bash Collins as a mere biologist and hence inconsequential ... :lol: just kidding, Johann ... however, the fact remains that onl...
by Alok_N
05 Apr 2007 19:10
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

@Manny I guess he chose the Christian God in the same way that 99% of the religious people in this world chose theirs - be that Allah or Krishna. They simply pick what they are culturally most attached to - the faith of their parents and immediate family. Religion is by and large coded into a child...
by Alok_N
05 Apr 2007 00:44
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

HariC wrote:Lovely! I think y'all found the right tone!
what about you?
by Alok_N
05 Apr 2007 00:43
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

freedom to not seek also should be added. (why seek at all? why do you believe there is something to be sought at all?) the freedom to not seek is always there ... however, the belief that there is something to be sought comes from the collective experience ... science is uncovering new phenonomena...
by Alok_N
05 Apr 2007 00:11
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

Alok, Nietszche (we can call him Neeja and knock out those un-necessary consonants :)) urged the 'Superman' to be above society - but excessive elitism is itself a social phenomenon, which in turn will generate its own cause and effect. Johann, the stuff I posted was from my formative years and it ...
by Alok_N
04 Apr 2007 19:56
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

Shiv, depends on whether the word you are looking for represents a characteristic or an act ... love and peace are catch all (is it love in itself or in the act of providing love?) ... I would agree with Valkan and say, pick one: Hinduism = sublime or Hinduism = liberation the former characterises i...
by Alok_N
04 Apr 2007 11:39
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

one of these days you'll get serious ... patience is a virtue ... :)
by Alok_N
04 Apr 2007 11:17
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

while we are (oh ok, only I am) in this business of exploring the wide reaches of belief and its expression, here is something from another one of my main men who said it like noone else ... Maggie comes fleet foot Face full of black soot Talkin' that the heat put Plants in the bed but The phone's t...
by Alok_N
04 Apr 2007 11:00
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 145607

that thread closed early ... just when religion was intent on presenting yet newer facets ... a bitt too spicy for some tastes, perhaps? carrying on ... Here is my experience with Hanuman Bhakti. When I am inside the gym and working out, I feel in tune with the universe. I am calm. Most of my spirit...
by Alok_N
04 Apr 2007 10:18
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

there were folks getting high on snake-bite ... yes, there are places in old Delhi where you can still get a snake-bite for about Rs 10 ... there is a snake in a bottle with a cork on it ... you pay the money, the cork is removed. and you stick your big toe in there ... the snake in there (usually ...
by Alok_N
04 Apr 2007 10:11
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

That brings to light another set of oppression inflicted on Hindus that are Shambu Bhakts. Can you imagine getting some dhatura in tolerant christian countries? We all know that one cannot engage in Shambu Bhakti without dhatura? since you bring up this issue, allow me to address it ... technically...
by Alok_N
04 Apr 2007 09:47
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

an ancient civilization took orders from that hollywood bimbo ... :shock:

where is the outrage?
by Alok_N
04 Apr 2007 09:41
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

in case some of you are slow to catch on ...

Ganja has been smoked freely in India for at least the last 5,000 years except for the last 25 years or so ...


Who The F does GOI represent?
by Alok_N
04 Apr 2007 09:37
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

I am all for understanding of Holy Beef ... however, I am looking for a sign of understanding from Beef Faithfuls ... us Shambhu Bhakts used to have some good ol' Nagin, Dhamin, Nepali, Manali, Afghani etc available to us freely ... there were GOI approved/licensed "Bhang Shops" at every m...
by Alok_N
04 Apr 2007 08:30
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

Vishy_mulay wrote:(if at all we have another thread dedicated to this topic).
this thread deserves a million lives ... Shiv can outdo Chairman Dragon by proclaiming "let a million flowers bloom" ... :)
by Alok_N
04 Apr 2007 08:02
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

one interesting feature of this thread is its cyclic nature ... the same arguments are rehashed because a new member chimes in with an argument which he considers "original" ... fortunately (or unfortunately) for us, there is another new member who counters it with a retort that he conside...
by Alok_N
03 Apr 2007 19:40
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

Abhibhushan,

when posting Mega C&P, at least provide a two-line summery so the reader knows what it is he is launching into ...

otherwise, it is just an invitation to scorll-on-by ...
by Alok_N
03 Apr 2007 11:56
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

this "individual rights" business is a huge bugaboo created by a bunch of white guys ... the jokers had no clues about diversity ... they didn't give votes to blacks and women ... someone told me that one of the jokers (Madison?) was in favor of votes proportional to acres of land someone ...
by Alok_N
03 Apr 2007 10:35
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

I don't care. Are you clear now ? yup, I'm clear ... (even though you agreed only after some equal-equal) ... do you see anything wrong with cannibalism? ... cool dude like you should be ok with that as well, no? ... you see, equal-equal doesn't get you very far ... now, here's the tough part ... e...
by Alok_N
03 Apr 2007 10:27
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

I don't think anyone is asking you to slaughter cows or any other animals against your religion. But that doesn't mean you can flout your religion to infringe on individual freedom of others who may want to slaughter cow for their consumption or sale to other parties who may want to purchase the me...
by Alok_N
03 Apr 2007 10:17
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

we can have a perfect Anarchy ... :)

it is far superior to Democracy ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy
by Alok_N
03 Apr 2007 10:05
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

Just to mix up the issue a wee lil itty bitty teeney weeney more ... God is in everything ... so, God is in Beef ... don't worry, have Beef curry ... this thread has highlighted the Glorious Chaos that is SD in India ... for every position one can take, there is an equal and opposite position onlee ...
by Alok_N
03 Apr 2007 09:35
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

Kumar, My response to Johann was based on something I read when was about 18 years old ... I hope you recognize this ... This book belongs to the most rare of men. Perhaps not one of them is yet alive. It is possible that they may be among those who understand my "Zarathustra": how could I...
by Alok_N
03 Apr 2007 09:19
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

right, Faraday!
by Alok_N
03 Apr 2007 04:18
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

This is probably the key difference in our viewpoints. Science drew me from childhood because it seemed to have the answers - and my hope was that the answers could make human society better for all. this is probably true of a large number of scientists ... I see it today in a lot of young minds (1...
by Alok_N
03 Apr 2007 02:08
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

Physics is a fundamental science like mathematics, but that doesnt mean that's it is the only or even the most effective branch of science when it comes to shifting people towards a more scientific point of view. let's worry about dissemination when we cross that bridge ... the problem right now is...
by Alok_N
03 Apr 2007 01:50
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 130048

Physics as it stands today has yet to demonstrate that 10b years ago it could have predicted the eventual rise of biological life, and the courses biological life have taken. neither could any other branch of science ... when biology does get to the point where it can explain anything based on fund...
by Alok_N
03 Apr 2007 01:30
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion thread - 7
Replies: 371
Views: 159111

welcome Manny, Usually BRF does not promote chit-chat, but this is page 10 and this thread will be closed soon (most threads are closed when they reach page 9) ... I am sure that you will enjoy your stay here ... :) check out the Indo-US thread ... of course, there is a lot of discussion on Avionics...
by Alok_N
03 Apr 2007 01:15
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion thread - 7
Replies: 371
Views: 159111

S.Valkan wrote:
Manny wrote:S.Valkan,


Is that you Spock from the PF and the ODI forum? I could be be mistaken.

:eek:

Manny (M_M)
We meet again, Candyman. :lol:
Candyman is Manny :rotfl:

Hey, guess who this is? :wink:
by Alok_N
03 Apr 2007 01:11
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion thread - 7
Replies: 371
Views: 159111

Your militancy is once again misdirected as well as pointlessly and unfortunately personal - perhaps because you are making all the wrong assumptions about where I am coming from in this discussion. I find that such "militancy" is often very effective ... let me tone it down and see if it...
by Alok_N
02 Apr 2007 09:28
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion thread - 7
Replies: 371
Views: 159111

Tilak wrote:
Sajan wrote: That seems a bit far-fetched to me ....
Just like it did earlier claming the above article, as being published in UK.
Tilak boss, please go easy on the tenderfoot followers ... they are but at the Holy Veal level ...

it is not everyone who appreciates the Holy Beef ....
by Alok_N
02 Apr 2007 09:07
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion thread - 7
Replies: 371
Views: 159111

Sajan wrote:It is beyond me how you concluded that was a Pakistani newspaper. Your prejudices are clouding your judgement
Forgive them for they know not The Beef ...
by Alok_N
02 Apr 2007 09:03
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion thread - 7
Replies: 371
Views: 159111

It means some varieties of beef are prohibited to the general populace and they would not even know of its existence with the passage of time. brother Bade, welcome to the world of Caste Sytem of Beef Heirarchy ... did you actually believe that All Men are Born Equal in their Beefiness ? So someone...