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by Alok_N
09 Apr 2007 08:01
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

What I tried to make Alok understand is that there is a layer of science sufficently removed from fundamental Physics so as to allow us to make revolutionary (and commercially profitable :) ) discoveries without worrying about quantum mechanics or general relativity or in many cases even Newtonian ...
by Alok_N
09 Apr 2007 07:55
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

the religious belief of the individual compels him to subscribe politically to the beliefs of the religious leaders ... There are so many exceptions to the above statement, that one might say that this rule is observed more in the breach. Consequently one might say that repeating such an obvious fa...
by Alok_N
09 Apr 2007 06:25
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Indus Water Treaty
Replies: 3160
Views: 417027

packess have two options:

1. lose water

2. lose a war and lose water

knowing packees, they will consider #2 superior ... :)
by Alok_N
09 Apr 2007 06:16
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

What does the religious belief of said citizen have to do with what s/he "owes" the nation? the religious belief of the individual compels him to subscribe politically to the beliefs of the religious leaders ... I will not argue this point using libertarian principles ... if the above sta...
by Alok_N
09 Apr 2007 06:12
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Bade, he will ask you whether the exclusion principle had gone public yet and how much did the IPO bring? ... this is typical of the business world ... except for upper management, the guys in Sales make the most money ... they also create annuities ... it is amazing, considering that the Sales guy ...
by Alok_N
09 Apr 2007 05:54
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Re: Note to S.Valkan and others -- Hindu Encyclopedia needs

Krishna Maheshwari, your post is timely ... I was just lamenting the Wikipedia system for such information ... too many cooks there ... However, the following makes no sense: It doesn't matter if you feel like you don't know a lot. Any contribution will help. how does this work? ... who will be the ...
by Alok_N
09 Apr 2007 05:50
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

I see that after threatening to " post long verses from the scriptures " Greg has developed Oraclitis of Wikipedia ... :lol: boss, if you don't understand sanskrit, ask those who do ... if you haven't met one, then ask Valkan on this thread ... your criticism of Hindu Thought is similar to...
by Alok_N
09 Apr 2007 01:20
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

On so called Islamic architecture, I do not know, how much of it is a measured and knowledgeable assertion or just plain old history from Indian school text books, highly engineered by Marxist and Secular historians. So Hindus are the only ones that contributed anything that is architecturally sign...
by Alok_N
09 Apr 2007 00:06
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

So you are an agnostic in profession of belief but you subscribe to monistic hinduism? no, I am monistic in every sphere of life ... you were badgering for a one word "ism" or "ic" characterization so I had said "agnostic" not being aware of the word "monistic&quo...
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 23:50
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

TSJones wrote:Are you an agnostic hindu?


monistic
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 23:47
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

TSJones wrote:Pot calling the kettle black.


let's not have such racist remarks either ...

the correct phrase is "toilet calling the sink white" ... :lol:
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 23:41
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Pot calling the kettle black. It seems to me you have been doing more than your fair share of trolling and put downs. :P a "put down" is different from a "lie" ... you have been lying in your trolling ... considering that you show no contrition for your sin, you have earned an u...
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 23:39
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

TSJones wrote:I'm not so sure about me going to heaven ...


in light of such doubt, say 1 million Mary Poppins ...

don't give up hope ... it is akin to giving up faith ...

Air Heaven may be upgrading to super jumbos and a standy seat may just pop up for the poppins ...
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 23:23
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

seriously, I have never said that everything that was done in science is in the Vedas ... a troll like TSJ can be slow, so I will do it slowly ... H-i-n-d-u T-h-o-u-g-h-t i-s n-o-t i-n c-o-n-t-r-a-d-i-c-t-i-o-n t-o s-c-i-e-n-c-e ... colors are looked down upon, so I can't write it in crayons for TSJ...
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 23:18
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

nice google, but it ain't Arno ... to learn the truth, you have to do a better literature search ... Arno is in his mid-seventies ... what he did was not that great ... the Nobel should have gone to Dicke ... assuming you will meet Arno in heaven when you are both there ... mind reporting back from ...
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 22:32
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Johann, Valkan, Bade et al,

you might enjoy this discourse in verse:

http://www.physics.princeton.edu/~steinh/robinson.pdf
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 22:17
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Johann, Neat-chai is good ... :) ... btw, in India it was pronounced closer to Neat-sha, while in the US folks say Neechi (like the leechi fruit) ... how would Neat-chai have said it himself? As for Newton, Kepler et al, yes, they were mechanists ... I also agree that it is very difficult to remove ...
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 21:25
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Re: Treason of Syrian Xtians with Portuguese invaders

In the process they acquired the raw materials for a new cult, the St. Thomas legend, which would prove to be their most enduring "gift" to Mylapore—along with a large number of churches that have been built on temple sites around the southern coasts . is the highlighted part generally ...
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 08:45
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Greg, admittedly, I had said that I will post no more ... I will stick to that as far as reasoned posts go ... your rise and fall in the instance of " don't make me post extracts from Hindu scriptures " has been demonstrated to be chest-thumping bravado ... however, I do have a response to...
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 08:36
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

ok, so I ain't an Admin, so what do I care ... I can say what I want and the worst fate is a ban ... been there, done that, let's get past ... as I see it, this thread has been highly successful in getting folks to post what is near and dear to their hearts ... as such, it has been a great success ....
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 07:32
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Greg, All newbies get a rough treatment on this forum ... I have done so with you and gauged you ... no apologies, have the last word and let it be ... or, you can follow another track ... you offered to post passages from Hindu thought that were unscientific ... please post those so discussion can ...
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 01:06
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

aah, Maulavi C/D Mian has spoken ...

aagae aagae hum chalae, yaaron ki baraaton mein ... :)

10 threads worth of work will go down the tube if Hindu Evangelical and/or Imperial ambitions are now put on the table ...

what's up with that?
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 00:50
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Acharya wrote:More importantly we need a expansion of Hindu civilization first to its original geography and then beyond where no Hindu has set foot before.

Acharya boss turning into EvanHindu? :shock:
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 00:43
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

very well ...

Indian Penal Code == Bible or Quran ...

wah! ... no more from me ...
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 00:21
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Raju wrote:yeh Ibrahim beech mein kahaan aa gaya


omnipresent ... :lol:
by Alok_N
08 Apr 2007 00:18
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

So even among Hindus, the equivalent of an "abrahamic religiousity" exists in non-religious matters. it is the law, boss ... what is all this "abrahamic religiosity" stuff? ... I sense a deep-seated desire to find "equal-equal" no matter what ... what is the attitude t...
by Alok_N
07 Apr 2007 18:59
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

[quote="Greg"]You say Hindu “thoughtâ€
by Alok_N
07 Apr 2007 09:43
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

TSJones wrote:I apologized when I had a banana for breakfast today.


I knew it! ... TSJ is a closet Hindu ... find your nearest Hare Krishna outfit and indulge in bliss ... :)
by Alok_N
07 Apr 2007 09:22
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Well, let's take parallelism in biology shall we? of course, let us ... In the Wonderful Life: Burgess Shale in the Nature of History, Stephen Gould wrote that the present day life forms are entirely a random event. Except for an accident of nature we coud all easily be an invertebrate life form in...
by Alok_N
07 Apr 2007 09:05
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

FWIW I have a suggestion to make. I suggest that all Indians, no matter what their religious persuasion be called Hindus. This after all was how the name "Hindu" came about. Hindus were the people East of the Sindhu river. Christians shall be called Christian Hindus, and Muslim of India M...
by Alok_N
07 Apr 2007 08:47
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Greg, you have a propensity for posting whatever you feel like but linking it as if it is in response to my comments ... a casual reading will inform the reader that your commentary is in the nature of "stand alone posts" and not connected, even remotely, to the text you quote ... let's se...
by Alok_N
07 Apr 2007 08:30
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Greg, nothing personal, but just to set the guidelines, may I enquire as to whether you are a Hindu or not? ... it will help me set the parameters of the required corrections to your thinking process ... secondly, if you are indeed a Hindu, may I enquire as to whether you have any familiarity with t...
by Alok_N
07 Apr 2007 06:42
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

If you go to the webpage, the table itself shows India as "Hindu" ... so, why is the map distorted?
by Alok_N
06 Apr 2007 19:45
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Re: Religion Thread - 10

SriKumar wrote:that may be one possibility why Valkan's posts, if written up in a book form, may lose something. (He could keep it in the form of a 'conversation', as in Plato's 'Socratic Dialogues').


Jiddu Krishnamurthy occassionally took this approach probably for similar reasons ...
by Alok_N
06 Apr 2007 19:23
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Re: Religion Thread - 10

SRoy wrote:I think the linkages between national security and religion is pretty clear, but if people want 10 pages of useless discussion...well.


the case for Islamism is clear, but what about EJ?
by Alok_N
06 Apr 2007 19:13
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

why not analyse the EJ rather than painting him as evil and pigeon-holing him? what makes an EJ tick? ... what prompts him to drop his life in the west and spend time in faraway places trying to convince others to convert to his religion? ... IOW, what's in it for an average Joe EJ? folks like TSJ w...
by Alok_N
06 Apr 2007 18:50
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

why all the khujli ? ... if some folks don't like the thread, they can simply not read/post here ... take this whole debate about caste in Kerala for example ... I am learning a lot without agreeing or disagreeing with anyone ... bottomline, I have *not* yet developed a crisp view on the caste thing...
by Alok_N
06 Apr 2007 18:27
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 100197

Re: Religion Thread - 10

random mumbo jumbo on esoteric subjects like how to get high on snake venom for just Rs 10 onlee in Delhi (you learn something at BR everyday ) .. and you didn't even have to pay 10 bucks for such esoteric gyaan ... Come on guys.. Lets cut to the chase.. No one gives a rat's musharraf about the &qu...
by Alok_N
06 Apr 2007 11:13
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 69940

Raju wrote:that is the western view, it ofcourse gives us an idea. But we need the Hindu theological/astrological view, it might give a far more accurate picture.


let's see if numerology has an answer ...


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by Alok_N
06 Apr 2007 10:59
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 69940

regardless of maratha or kunbi, can he fix cricket? :)

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