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by Shwetank
03 Nov 2018 23:56
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Understanding the US - Again
Replies: 2487
Views: 233768

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Well the mysterious support for Google might have some basis, the US intelligence communities had interest and kept tabs on it since the founders were grad students: https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e Note, a desi lady seems to be senior position also in all...
by Shwetank
03 Nov 2018 05:58
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: India's Contribution to Science & Technology
Replies: 694
Views: 130408

Re: India's Contribution to Science & Technology

Prof Abhay Ashtekar - Inspiration to many. Theoretical physicist Prof. Abhay Ashtekar is the recipient of this year’s prestigious Einstein Medal![/b][/size] One more physicist we have talked about in Brf. (He was also an inspiration, guru and friend to many of us - IIRC Bade and me mentioned him in...
by Shwetank
01 Oct 2018 07:34
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)
Replies: 2815
Views: 383215

Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Have a poser for those who want to play: Every Soup power has met its demise in the Af-Pak region, is CPEC going to be that demise with Chinese characteristics? That is a ridiculous folksy quote bandied about but has never made sense. Other than the Soviets, can't really obviosly say which superpow...
by Shwetank
05 Sep 2018 07:37
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)
Replies: 3554
Views: 267486

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)

The barbary corsair raids from northern Africa are pretty famous for raiding along western coast of Europe (and sparked one of the first major international interventions by the US to combat it), but few know they even raided all the way to Iceland! (look at a map to see how far and isolated that is...
by Shwetank
04 Sep 2018 00:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: BR Forum Feedback
Replies: 923
Views: 43111

Re: BR Forum Feedback

Mods, was wondering if could revive History and Archaeology thread from GDF into Strategic Issues sub-forum. I think it was pretty focused on facts and could be kept that way without going into politics; besides there is already an out-of-india thread which sometimes catches more general history and...
by Shwetank
07 Aug 2018 03:48
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5075
Views: 346604

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Shwetank'ji, now you are into polemics of A and B and what is at the tail end of which. You missed the entire forest for few leaves by a wide margin. Point is please do not buy into the Aryan BS. Think of it as this: Witchzel_Boneingher* is a pig and Aryan BS is its pigsty in which Witchzel_Boneing...
by Shwetank
05 Aug 2018 04:47
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5075
Views: 346604

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Shwetank: what I see in your post is something that a lot of us Indians do. ... Right now, you are still using AIT as a framework ... I'm afraid you've interpreted my post in the opposite direction, frankly surprising after I went out of my way to re-iterate I'm not a rote AIT colonial mindset foll...
by Shwetank
04 Aug 2018 08:16
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5075
Views: 346604

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

There were no Harappans and no Aryans. If you believe that there were, then you are on a wild goose chase of proving who came from what or where. I didn't comment on who did or did not exist, I referred to the settlements with that term, maybe some people prefer Indus Valley or Saraswati but this i...
by Shwetank
04 Aug 2018 05:49
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5075
Views: 346604

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

I'm still not clear on the recent DNA results, wasn't the whole argument of the pro-AIT crowd that central asians arrived after Harappan settlements? So if their DNA had been found then it would disprove they arrived later and hence an AIT, but the reverse would be taken by them as further confirmat...
by Shwetank
30 Oct 2017 02:57
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: BR Maths Corner-1
Replies: 1741
Views: 88064

Re: BR Maths Corner-1

I have a question about math history, I had once had a disagreement on some blog (the author was muslim, possibly paki) where I said a number system and decimal system which we use today had originated in India and he had dismissed this saying only a very primitive system had been formed in India an...
by Shwetank
05 Jun 2011 21:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 2406
Views: 271630

Re: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat

Ah didn't see this post before posting last one. There isn't any sort of historical record of swords from (say) Bangalore, Kerala, being of superior quality and of much demand in the middle-east. But there are names such as Masamune, the smiths of Bizen, Muramasa, Ulfbehrt, the smiths of Solingen et...
by Shwetank
05 Jun 2011 21:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 2406
Views: 271630

Re: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat

Shewtank, And all those guys didn't have native wootz steel. How did the properties of wootz influence sword design? I think the curved sword (slashing and cutting) was mainly developed due to wootz steel. That's an interesting question, its properties certainly made it easier to make slender, ligh...
by Shwetank
03 Jun 2011 18:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 2406
Views: 271630

Re: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat

Peter and RahulM, Its high time we have a thread on Indian swords. Well things have progressed since I last visited here. I had been meaning to do a discussion on the Indian arms myself but never got around to it and now i've forgotton a lot of the information and references I had gathered :P . I r...
by Shwetank
05 Aug 2010 17:24
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Distorted history- Causes, consequences, remedies
Replies: 4186
Views: 65045

Re: Distorted history- Causes, consequences, remedies

“Golden Temple” or the Moghul term “Darbar Sahib”. It is also why in 1922 they threw out from the Hari Mandir the murti-s that had been worshipped there ever since Arjan Dev inaugurated it in 1604. :shock: :shock: This is an extraordianry claim, completely unheard of for me. What possible proof is ...
by Shwetank
13 Oct 2009 09:48
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Geopolitical thread
Replies: 3955
Views: 304159

Re: Geopolitical thread

the stable 3% growth rate of US will go on for a long time to come This hasn't been going on for a long time, recent US GDP growth for at least the last decade (although more like 2-3 decades) has been hollow debt-based games. Ofcourse if by go on you mean being the US they get to bend and rewrite ...
by Shwetank
30 May 2008 19:52
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Distorted history- Causes, consequences, remedies
Replies: 4186
Views: 65045

But some things that British and Indians did together, accidentally or to facilitate empire, are now proving to be helpful and we are too generous to be bitter and blame todays British citizens as individuals."..... I for one agree with the view that the British Indian colonial colonial experi...
by Shwetank
06 Apr 2008 20:54
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Non-Western Worldview
Replies: 1005
Views: 81553

Murugan, what's your view on the assertion that coins and the art of making them were introduced for the first time in Indian region by the Greeks?
by Shwetank
20 Mar 2008 05:20
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Non-Western Worldview
Replies: 1005
Views: 81553

Exactly the reason for my discomfiture. Folks we ahve a very big job cut out for us but need to take it on one by one. hats off to you for still being able to retain some optimism about the future, especially considering you probably have seen much more than me. I view it as almost a lost cause, wi...
by Shwetank
06 Feb 2008 00:56
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India - 5
Replies: 324
Views: 49121

Dr. Faraz, I appreciate your coming here and calmy answreing questions in a hostile environment. I get the feeling that you are more liberal and keep saying you want to just move on and better your lot, a sentiment that I share and think India needs. You have convinced me that you are not a bigoted ...
by Shwetank
02 Feb 2008 13:11
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India - 5
Replies: 324
Views: 49121

Re: Caste composition of Indian Muslims

Imo the figures a bit dodgy... I think you have it the other way round. He is saying the % these castes make up of the total muslim pop. in an area, not % of these castes that are muslim. It might very well be that 100% of a certain community is muslim, but what does that have to do with what fract...
by Shwetank
06 Oct 2007 00:07
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 360
Views: 123769

Some high quality pieces with good pics. Again as with all links I recommend saving any info or pics. you want for reference to hard drive as sites are going down all the time and items for sale disappear along with their pics. Chillanum - Deccani dagger , pesh-kabz , Khukri , Maratha sword , Deccan...
by Shwetank
28 Sep 2007 08:51
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 360
Views: 123769

Airavat, there's the usual problem of no good records surviving previous to Mughal times. Most information is also available in books, very little good on web. Regardless, the tulwar almost certainly based on Persian Shamshirs (which were slightly different from Arab ones I think). One member points...
by Shwetank
27 Sep 2007 22:56
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 360
Views: 123769

Ceremonial ankus with koftgari and hidden spike Giant kukhri - Probably used for ritual slaughter, beheading buffalos :twisted: , Nepalese karda Indian percussion jezzail Indian firangi Indo-Persian Buckler-probably seen combat Trooper's tulwar Bagh-Nakh (Tiger Claw) 1 , Bagh-Nakh 2 Five-fingered d...
by Shwetank
27 Sep 2007 21:53
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 360
Views: 123769

Rahul M, sent.
by Shwetank
26 Sep 2007 22:23
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 360
Views: 123769

A pata from a personal collection, almost 50 inches LONG! : Huge pata Steel spear from personal collection (sainthis and djarids also posted, don't know the terminology) A lot more to come but will probably post tommorow, have to sift throw forums and sites not showing up on general searches. Any fe...
by Shwetank
26 Sep 2007 21:58
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 360
Views: 123769

Next posting Individual weapons, photographs not just pics. Anything related to Indian or possible Indian also. Read the descriptions at bottom of pages. First up a very good pair of patas, Ignore the models in first pic. of each page :roll: First , Second Southern Indian khanjar Indo-Persian all-st...
by Shwetank
26 Sep 2007 21:11
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 360
Views: 123769

So I went looking for pictures of Indian weapons since I had requested them from others myself (which are so hard to find in popular culture or anywhere compared to other culture's weapons) and have decided to post some pictures I found at an antique arms site. Pictures are of genuine articles but a...
by Shwetank
12 Sep 2007 01:26
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 360
Views: 123769

Samudragupta ... is considered to be one of the greatest military geniuses in Indian history


could you please expand on this? examples of this genius? who are the other military geniuses of india?
by Shwetank
20 Aug 2007 22:47
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 360
Views: 123769

Actually I understand where the early socialists etc. would come have come from, as mentioned by other before they were also a product of their times and back then the British had complete superiority and locals really were in an inferior state so if you are born into that and brought up in that it'...
by Shwetank
17 Aug 2007 04:27
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: India's Power Sector
Replies: 1522
Views: 213333

What calvin says is true from pure economic perspective and all the renewable energy sources are utterly uncompetitive without the tax rebates and other incentives. Much to gain from the 123 of nuke power Not true, geothermal power atleast is competitive and has been commercially applied for qutie ...
by Shwetank
11 Jun 2007 06:32
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 360
Views: 123769

That War in Ancient India website seems pretty outlandish. But atleast it has some pictures of what warriors and weapons looked like in India in the old days. This is something I have always had trouble finding; images, artwork, animation and live-action movies are numerous for the west and east but...
by Shwetank
20 Apr 2007 02:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Railways Thread
Replies: 3940
Views: 311410

But on absolute number terms IR's will be far higher.. What the hell? Absolute numbers are now suddenly the best way to jude something? Wow. It's proportion, ratio (which kind is another matter altogether) but it's always better than absolute numbers. What next, India's middle class is bigger than ...
by Shwetank
03 Apr 2007 10:21
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 57824

You guys must have heard of Rajeev Malhotra, here in the US. He fights a lonely battle against anti Hindusim among the academic circles. http://rajivmalhotra.sulekha.com/blog/post/2002/09/risa-lila-1-wendy-s-child-syndrome.htm Apologies if this has already been discussed. Manny This link spooked me...
by Shwetank
02 Apr 2007 09:55
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion thread - 7
Replies: 371
Views: 66655

Sajan for the third time reply to my post will you. I thought you were trying to actually make a point but now you just switched to the cow thing and posted an article with terms like skinny, undernourished and brutaly beaten up?? what the hell was the point of that? not very objective is it? didn't...
by Shwetank
02 Apr 2007 05:59
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion thread - 7
Replies: 371
Views: 66655

Sajan, you still havn't replied to my post... like I said the temple thing is wrong.... so.. what now... we're trying to change but as a LOT of things in India that need to be fixed it's going to take a while to bring theory into practice. Others have also screwed up and not followed their tradition...
by Shwetank
01 Apr 2007 23:27
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion thread - 7
Replies: 371
Views: 66655

I havn't been following this thread completely lately but Sajan what are you trying to say about individual rights? Are Valkan et al saying that those rights are not valid, are they saying that they condone these kinds of activities? people have accepted that there are bad things going on and there ...
by Shwetank
26 Mar 2007 08:57
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 68399

shiv good points as usual, and also as usual the question is how do you make people see the strengths? I think there is little doubt that people who think like you or have views on Hinduism like those on this thread are a very small minority as pointed out by Calvin. There needs to be some consolidi...
by Shwetank
26 Mar 2007 07:47
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 68399

Hey Rakesh, did you get my mail? It's been a while and you havn't replied to my questions. Calvin, do you agree that there should be a limit to individual freedom of religion if the religion is agaisnt this very concept and insists on use of force or is extremely destructive? Or do you believe there...
by Shwetank
21 Mar 2007 06:31
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 3
Replies: 338
Views: 58193

Alokji, have you read some of the research where there has been an attempt to analyze the behaviour of the prophets and other figures in middle eastern religion, (especially Moha. (PBUH) since his experiances are listed in most detail), using modern pschology and pschychiatric techniques? Apparently...
by Shwetank
19 Mar 2007 09:00
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 2
Replies: 327
Views: 59888

Yes they are real coins boss, what is that "tic tac toe" symbol on the coin? ... I see that Ashoka's lions are still there on the flip-side ... looks a bit like the German Iron Cross, actually looks a bit like the top of a Christian cross, the bottom side seems a bit too long for it to ha...

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