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by saty
20 Aug 2007 14:39
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - August 20, 2007
Replies: 361
Views: 54378

Indian communist party bats for the Chinese as usual, but the BJP helps. Not really; BJP has been saying the same thing since day 1. If PM wants he can reach out to the BJP and take them into confidence. It seems that the PM is still upset at the fact BJP took a very dim view of his becoming PM and...
by saty
20 Aug 2007 14:31
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - August 20, 2007
Replies: 361
Views: 54378

Shourie is now asking what is the India Laxman rekha is by saying "What act ill India quote to the US?" That is either deliberate misrepresentation of what Shourie wrote; or you have misunderstood his writings. 1) Shourie has not woken up now; he has been publishing very incisive writings...
by saty
20 Aug 2007 14:21
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - August 20, 2007
Replies: 361
Views: 54378

saty - you were unbanned recently, but I think you are misusing your ability to post on here. If I see any further justification of your unfunny joke and more self praise, you are out again. I am not convinced that your return to the forum is a positive development. Other debates and other times sh...
by saty
20 Aug 2007 13:48
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - August 20, 2007
Replies: 361
Views: 54378

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by saty
20 Aug 2007 13:27
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

Y For the first time NDTV lost its credibility as an independent news channel . :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Whom are you kidding... first time snifff... NDTV is a lifafa of MMM lobby big time (be it through congress or Karat). It may be the aha moment for you but this is something that a lot of us have...
by saty
20 Aug 2007 12:44
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

abhischekcc wrote:Here is my support for the deal:


:rotfl:

I forget can some one please refresh my memory on how N^3 came to coin the EB phrase?
by saty
20 Aug 2007 12:42
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

Whatever doubts I had, are now removed because of the sheer hatred the chinks have displayed. And I do not feel guilty about using a racist term to describe racists. What if the Chinks know that this is a bad deal; but to convince us that it is good deal are getting left to speak against it. So as ...
by saty
20 Aug 2007 12:29
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

I will post a new thought I just had: I think perhaps a deal made by this govt. will be suspect because of political reasons even if a bad enough to live with half deal. The best thing will be for the deal to be made by a truly representative govt. even if it is 3 years hence. This lame duck govt. h...
by saty
20 Aug 2007 11:20
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

Having said all bad words for commies, as some poster has said, if CPM's opposition leads to a better deal, it is most welcome. This is Indian Democracy, although an imperfect one, at its best. JMTs of course. How can that be; dont you know some folks have already concluded that this is the best we...
by saty
20 Aug 2007 11:09
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

What is even more perturbing is the offer of study group formation is purely a govt. saving political excersize just answering to the left with no intentions of carrying consensus. Congress under the current leadership (Unlike Rao) does not seem to believe in building consensus and more keen on ram...
by saty
20 Aug 2007 11:06
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

So if you dont want your intelligence insulted; start showing some Since you have not read the 123 text at all and neither have you read the BJP's Shourie article which makes a huge fuss about Hyde and Nuke testing by India, I will conclude that your comprehension level is approaching zilch and erg...
by saty
20 Aug 2007 11:01
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

Yet, Mr Singh is desperate to promote the deal as a great foreign policy success and a personal achievement. To begin with, this arrangement is not about full cooperation but selective participation to the extent that it serves American commercial and non-proliferation interests. Bingo bingo bingo....
by saty
20 Aug 2007 10:56
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

Are things really this bad or is Shekar's lifafa showing??

Pressing pause on deal will deepen crisis at n-power plants
by saty
20 Aug 2007 10:52
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

Acharya wrote:
saty wrote:

Lets at least not insult intelligences here by saying "WOW"


If you keep posting like this the Energizer Bunnies will start running around here with glee.


Is that all it takes?? :lol:
by saty
20 Aug 2007 10:50
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

Please go back to page 5 of this thread where I have shown Shourie's so-called brilliant thesis is full of holes i.e. that China is bound by international laws that states no national law... Uh... getting China is just another angle; J18 was not about China it was about India and what India and US ...
by saty
20 Aug 2007 10:30
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

I like this lady 8)

Resign forthwith, Jaya tells Manmohan

You can emigrate to the US, where your daughter and son-in-law have citizenship rights.


Ouch...
by saty
20 Aug 2007 10:28
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

BJP could have been more constructive and supported the deal which by all accounts has their stamp on it: POK-II was their nuke testing was their idea, Vajpayee called for moratorium based on the same BARC scientists/advisors, BJP had initiated talks with the US via Jaswant, they know that Uranium ...
by saty
20 Aug 2007 10:06
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

Best case scenario; Govt. falls because of left and NDA comes back to power renegotiates the deal quickly such that 123 == J18. All the hidden gaps that we worry about disappear and the deal is proven to have bipartisan support. NDA signs the deal with the next govt. in US. Cycle closed all worries ...
by saty
19 Aug 2007 17:53
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

NRao wrote:One with a stronger backbone would be preferred.


:rotfl:
by saty
19 Aug 2007 17:51
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

I have never been excited over the Indo-US agreement on civil nuclear co-operation. Nor do I share Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh's enthusiasm for US President George Bush and the Indo-US agreement. I am inclined to feel that what we are seeing now is a one-night stand between Dr Singh and Mr Bus...
by saty
19 Aug 2007 12:44
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 360
Views: 129182

In 1916, the British erected a 30-feet-high victory tower on the exact spot where the Battle of Delhi was fought. (It still exists inside the Noida Golf Course.) Thanks I had wondered for ages what it was; but had not the opportunity to go inside and look. Real thanks Sanjay you rock man.
by saty
17 Aug 2007 21:42
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

ramana wrote:Saty, Read MMS interview in IT posted above. Its makki ka makki BRF opinion.

I think BRF by and large has the India centric view on strategic matters. Only non India centric folks will differ with BR views.


I hope I hope I hope

Amen....
by saty
17 Aug 2007 21:35
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

Be that as it may. Nothing is lost yet. The only thing that has happened is that a door has opened for us. As soon as this door opened we have people saying "We have lost everything" Accepted in large parts; thats my own understanding as well; except a caveat. We MAY have lost SOMETHING: ...
by saty
17 Aug 2007 21:04
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

I had a tubelight moment. What GOI did by putting the deal on the table is buy time for strategic, economic and political space. Strategic for it morgantically legitimizes the Indian weapons and tests. Economic for it assures energy supplies albiet with conditions and political for it moves India o...
by saty
17 Aug 2007 20:57
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

The cost will get higher only if we choose to take the bait of starting a civilian program on imported material without thinking through the consequences of subsequent testing. Until we do that the consequences will be no more that it has been. Saar; and doesn't it seem that is exactly what we are ...
by saty
17 Aug 2007 19:06
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

Do we have the balls? We don't. So what's the angst about? Shiv; w.r.t to the above and Ramana's post. No one is saying we dont have the balls (as a nation; MMS is another thing) everybody understands testing has to balance the need to test for techincal and political reasons and the cost thereof. ...
by saty
17 Aug 2007 18:57
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion 17 August 2007
Replies: 351
Views: 61657

>>but a nuke infrastructure inputs may be more easily controlled Saty, but that is the point... Without 123 it is already controlled. What 123 does is remove these controls, giving the rest of the P5/NSG some sort of fig leaf coverings to say they didn't give up the house... Essentially, we are bei...
by saty
17 Aug 2007 15:14
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 13 Aug 2007
Replies: 338
Views: 53236

What 123 does is make the cost much more acute by causing potential disruption much higher - targetting our energy sector. But again, what was the guarantee the P5 wouldn't gangup and impose an oil embargo or something in case we tested again, eh? Esp, if as some claim, our testing==breakdown of th...
by saty
17 Aug 2007 14:33
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 13 Aug 2007
Replies: 338
Views: 53236

Shiv; N^3 guys please stop trivializing all manners of concerns of folks by reducing it to the level of mockery; there IS a testing concern around 123 Before 123; we were stuck with few nuke plants which we were managing one way or the other thus the consequences of testing were already meager; this...
by saty
17 Aug 2007 10:51
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 13 Aug 2007
Replies: 338
Views: 53236

A word dropped, a word inserted and the assurances are fulfilled! -by Arun Shourie Brilliant article; I love Shourie. He is GOOOOOD... The article clearly brings out how J18 == Lord British rule good for India Singh's statement in parilament != 123 deal. Exposes the gap neatly. Which is strongly ne...
by saty
16 Aug 2007 12:38
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 13 Aug 2007
Replies: 338
Views: 53236

I completely agree with Philp in the above point; while a lot of us here on BRF have elucidated the possible ways in which India can benefit from the deal; the big question is: is the GoI working towards reaping the advantages after already paying a cost up front? Where are the next steps which Indi...
by saty
10 Aug 2007 19:43
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 10 Aug 2007
Replies: 283
Views: 46706

I dare say a lot of us would be more comfortable if these waters were charted by any other person that his Eminence British rule good for India Singh.
by saty
10 Aug 2007 19:00
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 10 Aug 2007
Replies: 283
Views: 46706

Oh I have been itching to write this :) My Summary of the "deal" is that it is not a "deal" at all but a door open for future deals. A modalities for future interaction. But doors have been opened that much is sure. What will come in through the open door is a very different ques...
by saty
28 May 2007 14:18
Forum: Military Scenarios Archive
Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - Part VIII
Replies: 323
Views: 103352

amol.p wrote:
ok acknowledged


Please clean up your posts accordingly
by saty
28 May 2007 14:11
Forum: Military Scenarios Archive
Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - Part VIII
Replies: 323
Views: 103352

^=========

amol.p you have been cautioned on this count before; if Vivek wishes to share his details with all and sundry; he will do so.

But till them please avoid sharing your or any one else's details:: Age place of stay etc on a forum like this.

It is for your and all our good only.
by saty
25 May 2007 17:57
Forum: Military Scenarios Archive
Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - Part VIII
Replies: 323
Views: 103352

sum wrote:vivek sure knows how to make each minute seem like a day!!!!!! :lol: :lol:


Actually it has been four days or what it seems like 4 years.... :cry:
by saty
25 May 2007 13:44
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: India's Power Sector
Replies: 1577
Views: 243953

So basically their business is stealing my tax money through power route? Why should we be sad if these parasites die? It will not even reflect in India's GDP since these are the same parasites who never pay their taxes and report their earnings either. A lot of ******** in India need to die for Ind...
by saty
24 May 2007 01:27
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: India and the Global Warming Debate
Replies: 354
Views: 55775

nandy wrote: Calling it a scam or the next apocalypse will only find us unprepared and in a very unpleasant situation.


Allow me to rephrase:: "calling global warming a certain apocalypse is a scam"

:P
by saty
23 May 2007 18:26
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: India and the Global Warming Debate
Replies: 354
Views: 55775

Well the great disaster being tomtommed that north is going to dry up and all that you know. Anyway in the long term we are all dead anyway so why bother :P but I really think all this global warming thing is a scam; conveniently the only people supposedly really adversely affected are poor and next...
by saty
23 May 2007 17:56
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: India and the Global Warming Debate
Replies: 354
Views: 55775

The first signs of weather patterns changing globally are already being seen and the instability will get worse before it stabilizes. The "forecast" is more rain in the south of India and less rain for the north. But so far north has not seen less rain :-? So when will we see the first si...

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