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- 09 Jan 2021 21:37
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
:!: Could be closer if have have bases in Himachal. The lines can be increased with time. More tunnels and roads. China mainland cannot come closer in the cold desert. the number of lines remain constant ...1) zozila ..kargil , 2) manali ..3 passes, 3) manali shinku la ....3 lines. right now none of...
- 08 Jan 2021 01:47
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
well ... even our logistics lines / nodes ( Leh being close to border as well) are very tenous albeit shorter. we have connectivity to mainland india ( 1000 tp 1500 km away) through limited (2) now (3) lines.. thru mountainous terrain/high passes. most of our men are entrenched in flat grounds and ...
- 31 Dec 2020 18:21
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Gurus please comment on my thoughts. LAC is some 8-900 km away from any large Chinese city and 3-4000 km away from the main centres. Compared to India, which as 2 advantages. 1 being the landscape which is simpler to defend ? and 2 the LAC is closer to Indian population/troop centers (once the tunn...
- 30 Dec 2020 05:58
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Gurus please comment on my thoughts. LAC is some 8-900 km away from any large Chinese city and 3-4000 km away from the main centres. Compared to India, which as 2 advantages. 1 being the landscape which is simpler to defend ? and 2 the LAC is closer to Indian population/troop centers (once the tunn...
- 18 Dec 2020 22:21
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Its not the question of walking in. It is the question of keeping it. We need to develop the infrastructure on our side . That's what we are doing after many years. They stalled us through pakis and other means over the years . Once that is built they need to figure out how to man the area with suc...
- 18 Dec 2020 04:24
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
62 wasn't a knock out blow. It is considered one, because we didn't carry out a counter offensive. Chinis know they cannot win, unless India accepts defeat. The Chinis empty the areas captured in 62 during every winter! No one in 60 years has ever thought about just walking in! That's how we are. :...
- 31 Oct 2020 15:43
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
What is stopping (the General) you from setting it up? If you make a POC you can raise funds and market it.Cyrano wrote:...,,
While emergency purchases are somewhat understandable, no reason they or similar such brands can't be mfgd in India for long term to bring down costs significantly and for export.
- 24 Oct 2020 19:36
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
From today's Business-Standard : Government sources say Beijing is pressuring New Delhi to accept what would be publicly called a “mutual troop withdrawal”, but would, in fact, require Indian soldiers to withdraw first from their tactically advantageous positions south of Pangong Tso lake. Only aft...
- 23 Oct 2020 20:57
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
If we are evenly matched on capabilities then its advantage India. That's their fear.Adrija wrote:...... Let us be evenly matched on capabilities, as intent can always change.
- 18 Oct 2020 03:39
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Pressure on China. Once this information is public, we cannot go back. So lets make a deal now ; thats the argument.sanjaykumar wrote:Not surprising at all. Really only a confirmation.
The question is what purpose does it serve the GOI to leak this information at this time.
Ignoring the conspiracy theories.
- 18 Oct 2020 00:27
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
occupying advanced positions, beyond its patrolling points This could just mean we r present beyond traditional patrolling points, but within the LAC. We know that has already happened. Doesn't mean much. You mean all this Hullaboo over Kala Top? No! Crossed at 7 points seems more appropriate given...
- 16 Oct 2020 20:27
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Somebody mentioned that one thing that might be holding them back is that they are becoming to realize that Indian reactions are nothing like what they expected..... Yet, something that might be very clear to us, is a complete blind spot for the Chinese. For example, how they get enraged about the ...
- 16 Oct 2020 06:50
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
…..strategize to influence the Congress and the Left to proclaim Tibet as illegally occupied. This is not easy to do but the only way/ This should never become a BJP vs China thing. When did Ladakh discussion became Tibet discussion. As you said the govt has a public discourse about Ladakh includin...
- 16 Oct 2020 03:35
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
...Tell the world that rockets were fired from our position in Chulsul. PLA responded to the attacks (in form of MBRLs & Drones with video footage) in to Chulsul areas. PLA is only responding, so don't want to escalate. They are ready to move out, return captives, if India doesn't respond and m...
- 16 Oct 2020 03:13
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Importance of Territorial Integrity need not be Man Ki Baat. It is a given. In fact all politicians use it. Look at Pappu. You want to be uniquely satisfied. Me too. That's why I am on this forum. Read and understand this topic part 1 and 2. You will be satisfied. Don't take Nehru's words out of con...
- 16 Oct 2020 00:14
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Many on this thread and other thread have pointed out CCP documents and their goals. If by documents you're looking for how they exactly plan to accomplish their goals or anything close to it then you are already aware that one is not going to get them. From the Indian context, as a voter I'm entit...
- 15 Oct 2020 22:55
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Can you show me the Chinese 100 year plan document in that case?
- 15 Oct 2020 22:24
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
There's no chankaya neeti involved here for plans to not be in open. If public doesn't believe in long term plans or even understand them then they won't be voting for you on long term goal equation. And it's not like India has 100 years. Probability is very low for India to have 100 years as BIF p...
- 15 Oct 2020 22:00
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
What one needs is mann ki baat on subject of planning things for centuries and how Indians aren't doing it but enemies are. In a democracy parties in power change. 100 year plans cannot be open knowledge. But when power changes plans can go lost in transition. We need to figure out the solution to ...
- 15 Oct 2020 19:35
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
https://i.ibb.co/G0vwJbY/Tibet-India.png …….. They are looking hundreds of years ahead while we are content to be safe enough to go back and squabble among ourselves. We have to formulate our 100 year plan and go with it ruthlessly. I see strategic advantages; and big problems in the map. Need to r...
- 07 Oct 2020 06:19
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
They will try to grab a price of land which is atleast tactically important to them and which they can resupply in winter from their established bases. Given PLA's penchant to fight a mechanised war - their airborne will try to capture such an area where the PLAGF can quickly push back IA and linku...
- 01 Oct 2020 06:23
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
- Replies: 5265
- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
China has picked a fight with almost all its neigbours. Be it Japan, Taiwan, HK, Tajikistan, Bhutan, Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, Australia and even Russia (claims on Vladivastok region) and Nepal. So it should not surprise us that China also piked a fight with India. Indians keep on looking at ...
- 30 Sep 2020 23:05
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Chetak.... Ashley's interpretation is probably incomplete. It doesn't explain the six other fronts China opened with other countries. What can explain the situation in general? Maybe a combination of [1] Covid Condemnation ; Start of economic decline; Over estimating weakness of other countries due...
- 29 Sep 2020 03:12
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
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- Views: 1793666
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Something doesn't add-up and it bothers me. Can you guys shed light if it is safe to do so. [1] Chinese salami sliced. One more slice in a long list of slices [2] This time India scratched back [3] Chinese flirt with disaster You do [1] because you can try again somewhere else if it doesn't workout....
- 19 Feb 2013 19:42
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Indus Water Treaty
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- Views: 736530
Can we use the sediment
This sediment when deposited at river mouths becomes fertile delta. Cannot we use this sediment by building a diversion canal at dam bottom that takes sediment away from dam that we can collect and transport to form fertile fields or as building material depending on grade. I know river beds being d...
- 06 Jun 2012 23:04
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29th May 2012
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- Views: 274331
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29th May
Dr AQ Khan So, in a brief expanse of one paragraph, here's what photochor said: Pa'stan can shoot down US drones with Hamza missile Pa'stan was full of natural resources Pa'stani leaders had no good motive Pa'stan had drone technology Pa'stan can produce atomic weapon Pa'stan can end its energy cri...
- 12 Apr 2012 01:27
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29 March 2012
- Replies: 2868
- Views: 287374
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29 March 2
>> Lets not lose sight of the fact that India = Success and Pakistan = Failure over last generation. This equation looks valid if we ignore thousands of Indians killed in terrorist attacks. Moreover, we did not cause Pakistan's failure. In fact, Gujral and MMS doctrines only delay Paki failure (by ...
- 12 Apr 2012 01:01
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29 March 2012
- Replies: 2868
- Views: 287374
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29 March 2
If you read some posts on this thread and don't know anything else you may be forgiven for thinking Pak's policy is successful. Lets not lose sight of the fact that India = Success and Pakistan = Failure over last generation. There is no practical scenario under which this will be reversed in next 1...
- 23 Mar 2012 22:39
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 15 Jan 2012
- Replies: 2848
- Views: 291936
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 15 Jan 201
^^ In fact 'chhota nawaab' is carrying out porki's message in this movie, that is it is Hindu baniya doing terriorism not porki isi, army or 'lashkar-e-taiba' :evil: Haven't seen the movie yet. Will hold judgement. But in the quote above he gave the smoothest knockout punch to the Pakis. Krishna sh...
- 23 Mar 2012 21:24
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 15 Jan 2012
- Replies: 2848
- Views: 291936
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 15 Jan 201
Pakistan ban won't affect 'Agent Vinod' revenues: Saif "We have lost some revenue, just around Rs.1 crore. They are always banning our movies. Kurbaan was also banned," Saif told IANS adding that " We also shot in Pakistan without their permission ." "Agent Vinod is for Ind...
- 26 Jan 2012 20:06
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 15 Jan 2012
- Replies: 2848
- Views: 291936
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 15 Jan 201
Can you do the same for India. How long would it take for us to become a Singapore given rates of growth of certain drivers. Or point us to published work in the field. In this instance not OT at all. I am going to talk only about Pakistan. Staring with an image http://i1.tribune.com.pk/wp-content/u...
- 07 Dec 2011 03:34
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Telangana Monitor
- Replies: 5661
- Views: 784388
Re: Telangana Monitor
INC cannot split AP and lose 25 -30 MP seats for generations. I am with ramana on this. You are really making a mistake in analysis. AP split saga is NOT over by any means. I request everyone to not get into illusions of T campaign is over and congress has eaten a humble pie. AP split is not really...
- 07 Dec 2011 01:00
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Telangana Monitor
- Replies: 5661
- Views: 784388
Re: Telangana Monitor
What bear hug? INC as long as it has the 2Gs will try to split AP. There is no doubt for that. It has become even more crucial. INC cannot split AP and lose 25 -30 MP seats for generations. How many other major states is it a significant power any more? That I believe is only reason that AP is unit...
- 07 Dec 2011 00:46
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Telangana Monitor
- Replies: 5661
- Views: 784388
Re: Telangana Monitor
BJP will have to go neutral if it wants to form NDA government in the scenario. There is no reason why they can't stick to similar terms as they did in the past. People are aware that while BJP played idiotic games Congress played criminal games. I don't see Congress has huge advantage over BJP ove...
- 06 Dec 2011 23:40
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Telangana Monitor
- Replies: 5661
- Views: 784388
Re: Telangana Monitor
If TDP does not support BJP at centre, even if TDP and BJP are in a position to form a govt, then what will TDP do? Sit out, and let Congress form Govt? I think CBN is very wary and is being extra cautious. He must remember that he lost not because of BJP, but due to his own policies that were seen...
- 06 Dec 2011 21:45
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Telangana Monitor
- Replies: 5661
- Views: 784388
Re: Telangana Monitor
If TDP does not support BJP at centre, even if TDP and BJP are in a position to form a govt, then what will TDP do? Sit out, and let Congress form Govt? I think CBN is very wary and is being extra cautious. He must remember that he lost not because of BJP, but due to his own policies that were seen...
- 02 Dec 2011 04:36
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
- Replies: 2841
- Views: 284663
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201
A very interesting discussion on TSP. Chris Fair is quite funny. She let's loose 4-letter words, calls TSP a condom, blasts US military men for homo-erotic fantasies about TFTA Jernails etc. What has gotten into her of late? It's as if watching a doppelganger, or was it the previous one. WOW! I hop...
- 30 Nov 2011 03:32
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Telangana Monitor
- Replies: 5661
- Views: 784388
Re: Telangana Monitor
I dont know. Also if we made that theread the first post of this thread then we understand this issue quite well. YSR demise(Sept 2-3 '09) lead to the T demand from KCR(Dec 09). The fear was rise of TDP with no one to check them. This is why we need to develop institutions not leaders. Its true for...
- 12 Nov 2011 03:27
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Telangana Monitor
- Replies: 5661
- Views: 784388
Re: Telangana Monitor
I should have clarified, I am not an UPite. So having said that, there is no chicken coming home to roost for me at least. Apart from that being a mini TSP, the other compelling and more important argument is that UP with it large size is what keeps the Indian Center strong. Even though it has been...
- 09 Nov 2011 03:03
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Telangana Monitor
- Replies: 5661
- Views: 784388
Re: Telangana Monitor
Yes. But how is the question. BJP failed to find right idea in AP till now. the social contract in AP politics was established right after the Nizam was ousted. TDP was the only game changer. but even here, it was more like a shift in loyalties from one side to another. neither TDP nor INC has ever...