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by ramdas
08 Oct 2017 14:01
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 1711
Views: 226799

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

The rot indeed ran deep. After all, Mani Shankar Iyer was also in the IFS. The entire Congi top brass as well as ``moderate" BJP elements (look at Yashwant Sinha) appear to have been subverted (probably starting from the late 90's if not earlier). These elements seem to have planned to eventual...
by ramdas
05 Oct 2017 23:08
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Deterrence
Replies: 4305
Views: 187650

Re: Deterrence

@SSridhar Could it be, as claimed by Prasun Sengupta, that Pak has only a dozen or so non tactical nukes donated by PRC ? It also makes sense from the PRC's point of view. PRC would not want to end up as a victim of one of their own nukes. If the number is on such a small scale, then talk of the abi...
by ramdas
03 Oct 2017 22:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Chakra joins IN - Where is the Mithai?
Replies: 301
Views: 17935

Re: INS Chakra joins IN - Where is the Mithai?

^^ Should'nt leaking such info, if such info is true, lead to the concerned journalists being imprisoned ? Preferably, a worse fate, along the lines of a life imprisonment, should befall such elements. Such traitors should not be allowed to continue with their business.
by ramdas
03 Oct 2017 12:19
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Deterrence
Replies: 4305
Views: 187650

Re: Deterrence

@ramana: that is what I have been saying. P8I is the only combat item, the rest being non-combat and all at astronomical prices. Add to that the political baggage. This ``alliance" is not worth it. SoKo would have had its own deterrent had it not overvalued such an ``alliance". Today, it i...
by ramdas
02 Oct 2017 23:43
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Deterrence
Replies: 4305
Views: 187650

Re: Deterrence

@Ramana: Unlike the Pakis, Larry Pressler is not claiming that the IUCNA is bolstering our strategic armaments (nukes/missiles) in any way. He claims that the IUCNA was a sweetener for general (i.e, conventional/related) deals with the U.S. MIC. Given how much we have coughed up for expensive U.S. t...
by ramdas
02 Oct 2017 15:16
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Deterrence
Replies: 4305
Views: 187650

Re: Deterrence

Munir Akram's ambitions are most probably beyond TSP's technical capabilities to fulfill, even in the next 25-30 years. The fact that TSP has not launched a satellite in spite of all the IRBMs it has got, while Iran and NoKo have launched satellites even as they acquired IRBMs, goes to show that TSP...
by ramdas
23 Sep 2017 03:47
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: India - South & North Korea Thread
Replies: 874
Views: 59078

Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

@ramana: How can you be sure that no further proliferation to Pak will occur (i.e, ``Abbasi got the message"). Abbasi is irrelevant here. GHQ could well obtain NoKo TN design. By the time unkil admits this, it would be too late. The way I see this, the game that PRC played in the 90s (equipping...
by ramdas
05 Sep 2017 04:06
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Deterrence
Replies: 4305
Views: 187650

Re: Deterrence

@sudeepj: agree 100%. We can't measure Pak/PRC/NoKo based on what we view as unacceptable damage, and you have explained precisely why this is so.
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 23:20
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Deterrence
Replies: 4305
Views: 187650

Re: Deterrence

So far there is no MIRV/MRV testing. MRV (without independent targeting capability) would also suffice as long as 8 20-25kt can be loaded onto each missile. If testing is not an option, moving rapidly and openly on such a track is the best. Regarding the claim of dialing up to 325kt, that has to be ...
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 22:57
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Deterrence
Replies: 4305
Views: 187650

Re: Deterrence

@pankajs: the quantity required is clear: 8x20 kt = 500kt-1MT in destruction. So, lack of high yield must be compensated for by going in for 8 times the number of warheads in MRVed/MIRVed configurations (MRVed may suffice). There is no evidence that this is being done. If done, this is indeed one wa...
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 22:42
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Deterrence
Replies: 4305
Views: 187650

Re: Deterrence

Of course, if we have enough to make the others collapse, a situation of mutually assured destruction will exist, which will deter the other side from initiating anything that could eventually lead to a nuclear exchange. If you do not believe this, you should be questioning the need for any kind of ...
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 22:31
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Deterrence
Replies: 4305
Views: 187650

Re: Deterrence

@shiv: but powers with high yield weapons can inflict damage on a scale that makes a nation collapse. If TSP through NoKo gets this ability, and our response can only damage a few cities in the way you specified, the jihadist TSP generals may well find this an ``acceptable deal". The counter ca...
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 22:25
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Deterrence
Replies: 4305
Views: 187650

Re: Deterrence

@sudeepj: Yes, the 1998 failure would have given data that would help the next time we decide to go in for a test of a staged device (if such a decision is ever made). My apologies for what I said about RC. The fact remains that an honest assessment about the need for further testing should have bee...
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 19:15
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Deterrence
Replies: 4305
Views: 187650

Re: Deterrence

@shiv: Can you explain why DPRK felt the need for high yield when 20 kt should have sufficed for deterrence ?
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 10:46
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Deterrence
Replies: 4305
Views: 187650

Re: Deterrence

@ldev: how do we achieve a 300-350kt yield without new testing ? The sooner we do this the better.
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 10:45
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Deterrence
Replies: 4305
Views: 187650

Re: Deterrence

@shiv: Why did NoKo test for a bigger yield when 20kt should have sufficed ? As for us, yields required for credible deterrence change depending on several factors. One of these factors is what the adversary possesses. Prior to the recent NoKo developments, TSP possessed yields that were less than o...
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 05:38
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 3457

Re: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion

@mihir The same arguments were put up before the 1998 tests. At that time, TSP had proven fission warheads supplied by PRC. We were naked as far as deterrence goes. The 1998 tests redressed that balance. Some sanctions were faced and some price paid. The same imbalance in perms of yield is again bei...
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 05:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 3457

Re: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion

@KaranM: When the GDP rises and we have too much at stake in trade etc, the will to go for further tests and face sanctions will further decrease. What when even NoKo decides to stop testing after perfecting the H-bomb ? Not testing soon leaves TSP with NoKo provided proven H-bombs of nearly megaton...
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 05:16
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 3457

Re: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion

Is nuclear inferiority vis a vis a rabid TSP acceptable ? If not, we have to do what is to be done to redress that imbalance. If a 10-15 year recession/period of low growth is what we get for this, we should push ahead nevertheless, or risk living under TSP military hegemony. @Gerard Regarding SoKo:...
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 05:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 3457

Re: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion

What use is focussing on GDP etc. at the cost of freezing nuclear inferiority vis a vis TSP. The whole requirement is for a credible deterrent. That has to be achieved no matter what price is paid. Else a ``welfare state" that agrees to TSP hegemony and maintains minimal/zero national security ...
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 01:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 3457

Re: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion

@sudeepj Where is the evidence that the 1998 failure was due to the sophistication of the design and not some egregious error by Chidambaram and Co ? All in all, looks like Chidambaram had been scientifically dishonest to say the least. To think that such an individual managed to stay as PSA to PM f...
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 01:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 3457

Re: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion

@KaranM NoKo's close to a megaton TN test should change all these calculations (which were reasonable until this happened). Without testing, our deterrent vis a vis TSP would lack any credibility. Given PRC's aims of economic dominance, things like several 20-30 kt weapons on several cities could de...
by ramdas
04 Sep 2017 00:17
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 3457

Re: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion

@sudeepj: These inferences count for nothing unless something is demonstrated. At the moment NoKo-TSP have a proven warhead with several 100 kt yield. Better than the 2T -3MT PRC warhead. This is the kind of warhead we must demonstrate too, unless you want to be a notional nuclear power faced with f...
by ramdas
03 Sep 2017 23:48
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Deterrence
Replies: 4305
Views: 187650

Re: Deterrence

It is time we upgraded our proven yields by testing. The sooner the useless Chidambaram is booted out of his perch as PSA to PM, the better. The alternative is TSP escalation dominance and military overlordship. Economic considerations cannot be let to come in the way of something so critical to nat...
by ramdas
03 Sep 2017 23:30
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 3457

Re: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion

All this about ``see the payload and guess our yield" amounts to khayali pulao. Ultimately, we have proven only boosted fission of around 20-25 kt yield. May have been enough around 1998. What is required now given the changed equation is a proven yield of several hundred kt. Even if achieved b...
by ramdas
03 Sep 2017 22:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 3457

Re: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion

Not blaming ABV for not testing then. It is 13 years since ABV left. High time testing resumed give NoKo developments: NoKo has since outstripped us in warhead capability. It is better we wake up and smell the coffee. Regarding Pak and NoKo: the sensible thing is to assume the worst. It is the paran...
by ramdas
03 Sep 2017 22:18
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 3457

Re: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion

@sudeepj: It seems R Chidambaram managed to goof up the TN test despite having the materials with him. This worthy still stays on as PSA to the PM past the age of 80 years giving platitudes like the adequacy of computer simulations for deterrence.
by ramdas
03 Sep 2017 22:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 3457

Re: North Korea : Military Technology News & Discussion

Indeed, NoKo have tested a H-bomb with a several 100 kt yield successfully. Those in India advocating minimal deterrence, or things like a few 20 kt are enough deterrence, etc. are doing a criminal disservice to the cause of national security by encouraging complacency. SoKo is already paying a stee...
by ramdas
24 May 2017 08:22
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: India-Russia: News & Analysis
Replies: 4757
Views: 355019

Re: India-Russia: News & Analysis

So the story of our refusing to buy Kudankulam 5/6 unless Putin changes PRC's position at the NSG was just that: a story. And to think that M K Bhadrakumar (the voice of the PRC/TSP axis) wrote an article based on this...Vested interests entrenched in the media appear to be bent on spoiling our rela...
by ramdas
23 May 2017 08:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 1885
Views: 305950

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

@tsarkar: that video has probably done its damage. Hopefully IA/SFC finds a way of minimizing it. Problem is that once hostiles know what to look for, these things are difficult to fully conceal. Road mobility may eventually be a better option. Looks like he has made it private. He should be told to...
by ramdas
23 May 2017 07:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 1885
Views: 305950

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

1) The only report that gave details about the recent A-II test`failure" was by Rajat Pandit at ToI. Hence the quotes. Then a few other media outlets took off mentioning that the test ``did not attain desired results". Strangely, the test was reported as successful by New Indian Express (w...
by ramdas
23 May 2017 05:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 1885
Views: 305950

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

The navarea for the May 25/26 test is no longer there. The rate of missile testing is just as in UPA days: no improvement. When NoKo and PRC are indulging in rapid testing, and even TSP is obtaining a MIRVed system, a proportionate escalation in the pace of missile testing should have happened on ou...
by ramdas
20 May 2017 08:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 1885
Views: 305950

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

The guy who posted did most damage. Innocently or not he has compromised a portion of the deterrent. Must face consequences for this that deter others from this type of thing: people must know that when they see something exotic with the armed forces, they are not supposed to videotape it - publiciz...
by ramdas
20 May 2017 08:00
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 1885
Views: 305950

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

Hope this Kashyap or whoever posted that video is arrested and made to face the music for this. Preferably, he should rot in some prison for several years undergoing third degree treatment regularly. Such compromises of security cannot be allowed. How is the govt. to make out whether the posting of ...
by ramdas
30 Mar 2017 02:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4681
Views: 484831

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Watched the CNBC TV18 programme on TSI in youtube. The statement about the 48 trailer order for Agni-5 does not look consistent. On one hand, the narrator says that 48 trailers are to be built presently. OTOH he says that the first trailer is to be delivered by the company in 21 weeks, followed by o...
by ramdas
28 Mar 2017 07:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3730
Views: 333115

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

The best solution is to ban all artillery imports for the army and force the new artillery guns: Dhanush as well as the ATAGS (whenever it is ready) down the Army's throat in sufficient numbers (several hundreds to begin with). The MOD must act here. This endless cycle of trials is a sign of corrupt...
by ramdas
28 Mar 2017 06:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4681
Views: 484831

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

@JayS: Do you have a link to the interview ? Are the 48 only for Agni-5 or also for Agni-4 (which is also road mobile)
by ramdas
14 Mar 2017 06:09
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4681
Views: 484831

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

@Kanson: Indeed looks like A5 is slowly undergoing modifications for improved performance. OTOH the threats that precipitated the initial rapid development have not reduced. They have worsened. Still, GoI appears to be moving slowly w.r.t. A5. A4 OTOH has been deployed with alacrity. Hope GoI does n...
by ramdas
13 Mar 2017 08:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4681
Views: 484831

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Sir, general observation in such scenario is either the missile is faulty if not then there is most likely modifications for which more trials could be needed. My views! So for the Agni-5, is it the modifications that are causing the extra trials ? If it were faulty, something would come out. Hope ...
by ramdas
25 Feb 2017 16:56
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4681
Views: 484831

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

@Supratik: What about with a 10 ton payload ? The range would be much lower 6-7k kms. with a hefty payload capable of beating any missile defence PRC would deploy in the next several decades. Also, 15k km missile does not mean we intend fighting someone. A deterrent against all nuke states helps. An...

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