Bharat Rakshak

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The whole thing is so bizzare I don't know if this calls for worry, embarassment or amusement. Quoting from the link below - "The matter was discussed in the Army and the ministry, and you accepted that it be 1950. ------ Having given that commitment, it does not befit a meritorious officer lik...

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Let me recount an incident which is related to the Pune bridge - Army vs Police incident. In my personal experience that bridge is a trap to catch gullible newcomers in the city. There is one inconspicuous signpost in Marathi at the entrance. My friend and I, who were new to the city, rode into the...

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quote="aditp" Agreed Lt Gen Sinha is indeed a great man. He rendered sane advice to IG that she ignored and the rest is history. end-quote What was the sane advice that IG ignored - was it something to do with Operation Bluestar? He strongly advised against it. That explains why IG supers...

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aditp wrote: Agreed Lt Gen Sinha is indeed a great man. He rendered sane advice to IG that she ignored and the rest is history.

What was the sane advice that IG ignored - was it something to do with Operation Bluestar?

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Lt Gen SK Sinha on The makingof Generals The making of generals January 26, 2012 For the last few months, an unfortunate controversy has been raging over the date of birth of the Army Chief. This should have been resolved long ago. Gen. V.K. Singh is a competent general and known for his integrity....

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Nelson, thanks for the clarification. Makes perfect sense. The parade order was as follows: "Horse-mounted columns of 61st Cavalry, Parachute Regiment, Bengal Engineer Group & Centre, Brigade of the Guards, Kumaon Regiment, Assam Regiment, Mahar Regiment, Gorkha Rifles Regiment and the Cor...

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Some times its so hard to believe that a Army Chief who has the courage to take on the government on his Age issue in name of honour and dignity , would simply fall to pressure from superiors and would accept 1950 DOB during two of his promotions and then twist that into "organisational intere...

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Sorry if this has been posted previously: Supreme Court's view point of 1983 on the Indian armed forces. Is this a pointer to the possible conclusion of the SC? http://indianmilitarynews.wordpress.com/tag/vk-singh/ There is also a discussion of Gen VK Singh's case, which I realize many on BR would n...

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US, UK lead the world in crime. India is number 9. Considering that India's population is 20 times that of UK, the crime rates normailized by the population (i.e. per 100,000 or so citizens), will show that UK has nearly 80 times the crime rate of India and the US nearly 30 times! http://www.mapsofw...

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Comment: Tibetans in India cause China great takleef. The more they torture, suppress and kill Tibetans in Tibet, the greater the influx of refugees and the greater the possibility of support to a Tibetan uprising. As one of the links above shows the border between India and Uttar Arunachal (Tibet)...

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There has to be trust between the Army Chief and the government. At this point the trust has been broken, endangering India's security. The Army Chief must demonstrate 100% of the time the discipline to take orders from the government and act on them without reasoning why. (He can perhaps express h...

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Yes. Such conflicts are when the military general doesn't obey orders: Gen MacArthur in Korea, Gen. McChrystal in Afghanistan. Its never a case where the govt tries to fix the date of birth of a serving officer to determine his length of service. Again this case is not same as other cases one wants...

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Its not a matter to agree or disagree. There is only one truth. He cant be born on both the dates! I afraid I do not want to contribute much more against the grain of thinking on BR - because that serves no purpose except irritating everyone. I was not commenting about the accuracy of his DOB. Have...

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Rajrang, Before he is a soldier he is a citizen. And as a citizen he has the Consititution to protect him. Its his Constitiutional right to seek Court remedy to redress. Ramana - I agree with you. But when you sign up to be a solider you give up some "rights" that other citizens have. In ...

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What if GoI asks Army chief to line up and shoot all members of opposition after which they will have a vote of confidence? Should he obey? An army man follows orders as long as within the ambit of constitutions. This is a professional army, not a horde of blind servants. Sorry, your question above...

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I believe VKS's only duty is to fight foreign invaders of India. (I realize that the IA is routinely used to fight internal armed insurgents as ordered by the Government of India.) He needs to have complete focus on his job which is to guard India's borders and not be distracted by other issues. If...

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There has to be trust between the Army Chief and the government. At this point the trust has been broken, endangering India's security. The Army Chief must demonstrate 100% of the time the discipline to take orders from the government Actually most of this country has lost trust in the Government -...

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There has to be trust between the Army Chief and the government. At this point the trust has been broken, endangering India's security. The Army Chief must demonstrate 100% of the time the discipline to take orders from the government and act on them without reasoning why. (He can perhaps express hi...

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^ This is not about following the orders of his superiors. Its about interpretation of the date of birth. I'm not saying this, former IAF Chief Anil Yashwant Tipnis said that. I quote In this case this is not an order, but it is interpretation of the date of birth and that interpretation could well...

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Pranav, You can be better and not contribute right? Rajrang, Before he is a soldier he is a citizen. And as a citizen he has the Consititution to protect him. Its his Constitiutional right to seek Court remedy to redress. Ramana - I agree with you. But when you sign up to be a solider you give up s...

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{quote="rajrang"}Gentlemen, I see there is a lot of sympathy for Gen VKS in BR. But at some risk of offending many of you I am going to go against the grain because I am genuinely concerned about India. I believe VKS's only duty is to fight foreign invaders of India. (I realize that the I...

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Government's anger and viewpoint: The government's defence revolves around Gen Singh's three letters of January 2008 and November 2009 "accepting" his DoB as May 10, 1950, and assurances that he would "maintain" it. In a 2009 letter to then Army chief Gen Deepak Kapoor, Gen Sing...

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Gentlemen, I see there is a lot of sympathy for Gen VKS in BR. But at some risk of offending many of you I am going to go against the grain because I am genuinely concerned about India. I believe VKS's only duty is to fight foreign invaders of India. (I realize that the IA is routinely used to figh...

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Government's anger and viewpoint: The government's defence revolves around Gen Singh's three letters of January 2008 and November 2009 "accepting" his DoB as May 10, 1950, and assurances that he would "maintain" it. In a 2009 letter to then Army chief Gen Deepak Kapoor, Gen Singh...

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His job is "not to reason why, but to do and die" That is ridiculous. He would be failing the nation if he did not stand up to internal enemies. The IA should fight internal enemies only when ordered by the government of India. Otherwise, the free press and freedom of expression, the free...

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^I do not understand the need of 'sympathy'. Neither does VKS need sympathy from any one else nor (i presume) any one here is offering it to him. IMO, it is a question of right versus wrong. Alternately, as you suggest, had VKS resigned and filed the case, the then COAS(BS or AKS or SKG or whoever)...

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Gentlemen, I see there is a lot of sympathy for Gen VKS in BR. But at some risk of offending many of you I am going to go against the grain because I am genuinely concerned about India. I believe VKS's only duty is to fight foreign invaders of India. (I realize that the IA is routinely used to fight...

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Chinese State Councillor's article in The Hindu newspaper http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-China-ties-face-golden-period-Chinese-official/articleshow/11511326.cms Chinese leaders communicating directly with the Indian public can be used to manipulate Indian public opinion with lies. C...

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Chinese State Councillor's article in The Hindu newspaper http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-China-ties-face-golden-period-Chinese-official/articleshow/11511326.cms Chinese leaders communicating directly with the Indian public can be used to manipulate Indian public opinion with lies. Ca...

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Navy needs more Aircraft Carrier Battle Groups Article in Indian Defence Review. With respect to aircraft carriers, India has to plan for 2050. From a financial standpoint, if India's economy grows at 6% per annum, then the Indian GNP (PPP) in 2050 will be twice that of the US of today! Certainly I...

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bmallick wrote:Why should indian armed forces be hell bent on having all the systems in the world in their inventory.

Except 155 mm field guns.

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The editorial in the Indian Express demands cancellation of the trip and that the pres. of India should step in. Much ado about nothing. I am sure the areas Chinese get to visit in India is already restricted - apart from the fact that they are anyway restricted in their own country. The Indian Exp...

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Perhaps India should begin stapling visas for all Chinese on the grounds they are not a free people, they live in a dictatorship. (We do not have to do this for people living in other dictatorships.)

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India does a U-turn, to send small military team to China http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-does-a-U-turn-to-send-small-military-team-to-China/articleshow/11406178.cms According to me its a very welcome and mature step on part of India. :mrgreen: I am sorry I do not agree. India must g...

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Alert for Chinese terror threat to Dalai Lama

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 404553.cms

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The idea is if China really wants peace and these confidence building measures, they have to accept that Arunachal is an integral part of India. (Give visa to people of AP as the rest of the country, thus legitimize it). You see these CBMs are all BS, its all about the heat not flaring up into a co...

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what is your opinion of india retaliating by following a similar course with Tibet? Start issuing or denying visas and calling it a disputed territory? Or is this too bold a course for our present timid leadership to follow? Other bold actions that come to mind would include selling a wide range of...

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India says can’t gag Dalai, China stalls border talks http://www.hindustantimes.com/images/HTPopups/271111/27-11-pg1c.jpg Too many serious provocations in the last three years - the more serious ones include objecting to Indian PM visiting AP, warning an Indian ship in international waters and now ...

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Singha wrote:rajrang the article is from 2008.

My apologies to everyone.

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The coincidence between India's decision to raise 1 lakh troops for the Chinese border (dated November 2, 2011) and the news item below 23 days later in which TSP is threatening to move 1 lakh troops to the Indian border. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/pak-may-redeploy-1-lakh-troops-along-indian/...

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