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by manjgu
17 Apr 2019 08:51
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

what is really needed is 'kafi with abhi" !!
by manjgu
16 Apr 2019 21:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Karan is right...we are just armchair warriors...none of us are remotely competent to question Abhis decisions. I think Indians also ripple fire both infra and radar homing missiles ( soviet doctrine) . i also felt R77 looked to have been fired...all this discussion is quite pointless IMHO...
by manjgu
15 Apr 2019 14:56
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 713
Views: 178187

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

no mention of test on timesofindia...etc
by manjgu
14 Apr 2019 22:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

a) u mean since their depth is less and consequently their main / satellite air bases are much closer to the border as compared to IAF bases which are located much deeper inside indian territory. b) i thought the fact their air bases are closer to the border ( makes it easier for them to surprise us...
by manjgu
14 Apr 2019 22:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

1) didnt get ur points which seems contradictory "An important aspect in PAF's favor is Pakistan's geography." and " the lack of strategic depth will come to bite them the most in air warfare " isnt depth a part of their geography? 2) PAF after 1965 has been a defensive air force...
by manjgu
14 Apr 2019 21:13
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 2961
Views: 380414

Re: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014

admire the isreali mil ind complex on how it responds to new threats/situations... amazing. a product for every situation !! and making money in the process...
by manjgu
13 Apr 2019 19:37
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

sorry... also how long will the AMRAAM's be operational in PAF service? wont their expiry in a way signal end of F 16?? missiles have a much shorter shelf life than planes !
by manjgu
13 Apr 2019 19:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

when are PAF F 16's retiring...a real problem in making for PAF.. they will get chinese replacements onlee ?
by manjgu
13 Apr 2019 19:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Karan M bhai ...on a lighter note when i was talking of overwhelimg superiority u/Hnair dismissed the concept.. and how rot has taken place....and now u agreeing to " Deterrence means they don't take off from their airbases. Nearly two decades of rot takes a long time to reverse and play catch ...
by manjgu
13 Apr 2019 19:23
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion
Replies: 1406
Views: 94226

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

i think higher turnout helps BJP ... its usually the middle class which does not vote...ifvote % ishigher means the middle class has voted. and if thats to be combined with less greenery.... results could be impressive. NDTV is projecting major major gains for BJP !!! just saw the youtube...
by manjgu
12 Apr 2019 19:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Artillery Corps: News & Discussion
Replies: 240
Views: 49289

Re: Artillery Corps: News & Discussion

a system should be worked out where there are financial incentives for babus etc to export arms !! that should solve all the problems i guess. IA should be using indian systems ... for a army which is always in operations..there is no better certificate for a weapon system than 'its in use with IA'.
by manjgu
12 Apr 2019 18:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

about ROE..in one of his blog posts Kaiser Tufail said they planned similar ambush during kargil. However, they were concerned what if IAF planes fell inside Indian territory... that was probably against the ROE so PAF dropped the idea. However, in this case the H&D issue was too much for PAF to...
by manjgu
12 Apr 2019 18:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

as i said PAF is a one trick pony ( ass). they have shown their hand...
by manjgu
10 Apr 2019 21:35
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Replies: 2709
Views: 374731

Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch

india should rebut ' we have credible intelligence that terrorist groups based out of pakistan.. along with ISI and PA are planning terrorist action in India with special reference to kashmir during the election time in india"
by manjgu
10 Apr 2019 19:37
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

PAF has been proved to be a 1 trick pony !
by manjgu
08 Apr 2019 17:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Hnair..u got me wrong. 1) Rumsfeld was a past master of spin doctoring and wordsmithing. SO what he said about US forces needs to be taken with a bucket of salt and may have other motivations. We all know US forces are well funded etc etc. I am not sure how relevant its in the indian context. We all...
by manjgu
08 Apr 2019 15:56
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

IAF presser at 5.30 pm !!
by manjgu
08 Apr 2019 12:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

That stmt came from gen malik during kargil ... i dont care what rumsfeld said.
by manjgu
08 Apr 2019 11:02
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

yes negi ji..totally agree. Self reliance can happen in india on a slow pace onlee..so much moolah to be made via imports. netas, babus all have a hand in the pie. but whatever the reasons the fact remains that WE dont have superiority of a nation with an economy atleast 10 times that of napakis. i ...
by manjgu
08 Apr 2019 10:52
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terroristan - October 8, 2018
Replies: 2729
Views: 345398

Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

next year napakis have to repay close to 32 Billion USD !!
by manjgu
08 Apr 2019 10:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

hnair..with due respects..nobody ( except coupta) is saying the Pakis have superiority over us either in men/material/motivation/morale . Atleast the little point i am making is that WE dont have the kind of overwhelming superiority that a economy which is atleast 8 to 10 times larger should have. A...
by manjgu
07 Apr 2019 21:10
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Karan M... i am no fan of Coupta or carrying the can for him. 1) firstly we spend a much less % of our GDP on defense 2) we have to cater to 2 fronts as part of modernization 3) large amounts of our budget goes to the Navy which as such does not overtly affect the battle on land and air which is ess...
by manjgu
07 Apr 2019 20:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 4416
Views: 537158

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Aditya_V...the way i understood is that the M2K masked their ingress with the mountains and ingress was also assisted with jamming etc.
by manjgu
07 Apr 2019 13:24
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

should not we be asking for the body of the pilot !! if gafool says 1 indian pilot was killed in hospital ...i mean even by 5th march they could not make up their minds?? this is insane !!!!
by manjgu
07 Apr 2019 06:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 4416
Views: 537158

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

yes depends on altitude of launch... depends on how valuable the target is. i think the m2k had to ingress deep into Pakistan as they went in low ...
by manjgu
06 Apr 2019 20:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 4416
Views: 537158

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

nam..can u put the pic
by manjgu
06 Apr 2019 10:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

i think the radio comm which was played before the journos was 'parinde neeche aa rahe hain etc ' was between ground units and not air to ground or air to air...IMHO.
by manjgu
05 Apr 2019 22:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 4416
Views: 537158

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

awwwwwwwwwww .. so cute.
by manjgu
05 Apr 2019 22:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 4416
Views: 537158

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

which PM ... hahahahaha.. Indian or Paki !
by manjgu
05 Apr 2019 20:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

isnt disclosing that we intercepted PAF radio communication also a breach of our capabilities..? if india released Mushy tapes then IAF should release the transcript...??
by manjgu
05 Apr 2019 11:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

esommuk ... yes onus is on IAF to come up with downing of F 16. But thats only a sideshow to the real show which was IAF ingress into Pakistan and not POK... the real story is not about F 16...
by manjgu
05 Apr 2019 11:13
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

ooo really...missed the target !! why the hell did PA had to keep Balakot cordoned it for 1 month if IAF missed.
by manjgu
02 Apr 2019 12:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

this reminds me of spot the difference thingy we did as children 1) AWACS 2) Joshi;s pic ..SU 30 at the bottom ( southern end) .3) Joshi ..north is JF 17 ..not F 16
by manjgu
02 Apr 2019 10:14
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 4416
Views: 537158

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

what came of the visit of reporters to the balakot site? no pics , vid ...??
by manjgu
02 Apr 2019 08:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2892
Views: 370583

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

the way i understood Sameer Joshi's posts is that AMRAAM were fired more in hope ( that they might get lucky with a SU ... ) and to disrupt the Su's. PAF just fired and turned tail not really guiding the AMRAAM till it went active ( pitbull bucket). Without F16 guiding the missiles till it became ac...
by manjgu
02 Apr 2019 07:55
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion
Replies: 1406
Views: 94226

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

the educated people know NYAY is poll time balloon ..but many people in villages etc do get suckered in by all these promises... i wuld advise MOdi or one of his partner partyies to announce dole for people registered in employment exchanges... as a counter. One thing i didnt understand , EC code of...
by manjgu
01 Apr 2019 10:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Space Program: News & Discussion - Sept 2016
Replies: 3729
Views: 720864

Re: Indian Space Program: News & Discussion - Sept 2016

congratulations..so some garu explain the role of EMISAT..what capabilities it brings on the table.
by manjgu
01 Apr 2019 10:17
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 4416
Views: 537158

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Karan M.. i read your rebuttal. While its v informative, it will be more useful if u can shorten it a bit. Will be more effective. JMT..
by manjgu
31 Mar 2019 20:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 4416
Views: 537158

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

In Haryana there is almost daily news of a body of a army/paramil soldier being received in some village. Read the local Hindi newspapers. I think u have grossly misunderstood the PM stmt. You have done a literal translation and concluded. What he implied.. is that for the moment we have hit Pakis ...

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