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by satyarthi
04 Jul 2008 03:04
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

Since Congress and SP are trying to use Dr. Kalam's good name, the communists may be tempted to malign him. Since communists played a major role in not getting him nominated for the second presidential term, they can claim that Dr. Kalam is peeved at them.
by satyarthi
01 Jul 2008 04:07
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Interests
Replies: 1307
Views: 140563

Re: Indian Interests - 7

JEM,

Agreed.
by satyarthi
01 Jul 2008 03:25
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

How can you build a consensus? -Left simply doesn't want any deal with the USofA -BJP want's a Pokharan III provision, will see how Advaniji would get anyone in NSG/US Congress to support Pok III next year :mrgreen: Both conditions eventually mean there is nothing that govt can do to renegotiate or...
by satyarthi
30 Jun 2008 23:10
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Interests
Replies: 1307
Views: 140563

Re: Indian Interests - 7

JEM, When I see a disproportionately huge amount of names of Gandhi and Nehru Clan (Nehru, Indira, Rajiv etc), stamped onto public property in India, then I need to ask whether that is not a "selective" propping up of a clan at the cost of many other equally or more worthy names? When Gand...
by satyarthi
29 Jun 2008 07:16
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Geopolitical thread
Replies: 3955
Views: 296036

Re: Geopolitical thread - 15

Axis of evil leaves the pacific coast. President Bush has made up with N Korea and GOTUS is going to announce soon that N Korea is not a terrorism sponsoring country. It is understandable that allies like Japan, S Korea and Taiwan wouldn't prefer any wars taking place on their lands. A war in that r...
by satyarthi
28 Jun 2008 08:14
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

I was just thinking... always a bad thing to think, I know. What if I were a farmer... I have heard that compost is the greatest resource for growing vegetables. What if I sold off all my grassy meadows, and leased my cows to the neighbors, and instead got the biggest compost heap in the district. ...
by satyarthi
27 Jun 2008 12:27
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

Headlines - Deccan Chronicle. BJP ready to back the deal. I saw the print version. I cant access the online version for some reason. But it must be there. Some powerhouse in MH has helped strike a compromise. All in all, a good outcome IMHO. http://www.deccan.com/ Pradeepe, It is a good idea to pas...
by satyarthi
24 Jun 2008 06:26
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

top scientists come out against the N deal There is lot of meat in this report even though it claims to be excerpts from a release by the scientists. Can someone locate the full release? The central issue about the IAEA safeguards agreement has been the doubt as to how "India-specific" th...
by satyarthi
24 Jun 2008 00:57
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

It is one thing to believe that a person belongs to some "business lobby", and another to post that on an open forum without any proof. The problem is compounded when the accused person happens to be a long standing member with great past contributions. How is someone going to defend again...
by satyarthi
23 Jun 2008 23:41
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

This deal is a successful test of a 100mt public-opinion-fission-device. On the contrary its all fizul baatein! (useless talk or brutus fulmen for the Latin familiar ones!) Ditto. To doubt fellow BRites of long standing and demonstrated service is the height of "fizul". As JEM said, we ar...
by satyarthi
23 Jun 2008 23:10
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

This deal is a successful test of a 100mt public-opinion-fission-device.
by satyarthi
23 Jun 2008 21:31
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2
Replies: 307
Views: 32800

Re: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2

India has never ever shown the behavior that is required of a nation that will test its nukes boldly. This does not give me any great deal of confidence that India will test again soon (or later for that matter). Well, Advani has mentioned Pokharan-III more than once by now. BJP has been in power o...
by satyarthi
23 Jun 2008 20:42
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2
Replies: 307
Views: 32800

Re: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2

BJP has clarified its stance unambiguously: N-deal should have option for Pokhran III "We are in favour of strategic relations with US unlike the Left. What we oppose is the clause which prohibits the right to test," Advani said talking to reporters on the sidelines of a book release funct...
by satyarthi
23 Jun 2008 09:31
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2
Replies: 307
Views: 32800

Re: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2

If the deal is not signed we can celebrate our true freedom to test any time, but given the statements made in this forum about the status of the Indian bums, I would have thought that it is incumbent upon us to test. Overt testing and refinement would address many concerns expressed on here. Howev...
by satyarthi
23 Jun 2008 09:12
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

The guarantees that nuclear weapons provide are political, not military. But those guarantees are far from comprehensive. This is much more valid for those countries that don't face an active military threat including nuclear threat to their mainland. This doesn't apply to India. The world's greate...
by satyarthi
22 Jun 2008 03:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Railways Thread
Replies: 3940
Views: 296598

Re: Indian Railways Thread

Train to Kashmir Videos: http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/67536/06_2008/30min_train_to_kashmir_1/30-minutes-train-to-kashmir-a-century-in-the-making.html http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/67536/06_2008/30min_train_to_kashmir_1a/30-minutes-train-to-kashmir-a-century-in-the-making.html http://www.ibnlive.co...
by satyarthi
21 Jun 2008 20:55
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

I don't think the deal will have any bearing on the elections. I don't see any gains by BJP or Congress in the elections by either supporting or opposing the deal. I also don't see why people will be "upset" if whichever party causes this govt to fall. As it is, people are distressed about...
by satyarthi
21 Jun 2008 20:07
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

Why everyone is presuming this is the demise of the deal? BJP has said they want to "renegotiate" it. They haven't said they want to kill it. If elections happen by Nov, BJP might still have time to evaluate the deal and approve it if found that Indian strategic interests are well protecte...
by satyarthi
21 Jun 2008 19:26
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

BTW, has anybody heard a public peep out of any senior BJP figure on the issue in recent weeks? Has anybody put a gag order on them? God forbid, could it be "them" through the others here? Or could it be that the BJP did what it had to do, drew the running dogs of communism to the nuclear...
by satyarthi
21 Jun 2008 18:58
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

Given the hardline stance taken by MMS so far, he can't continue to be the PM after discarding the nuke deal. But UPA sees much wisdom in not going to elections right away. So most probably, UPA will decide not to push for the deal at present, MMS will resign, Mukherjee will realize his life long dr...
by satyarthi
21 Jun 2008 18:19
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

BSP withdrawing support to UPA doesn't mean much. It wasn't essential. BSP had extended outside support after the UP elections to gain some favours from the Congress. What it does mean is that if the left parties withdraw support, UPA will have to garner support from SP and a large number of remaini...
by satyarthi
21 Jun 2008 12:18
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

Once again as Buddha said thousands of years ago, balance is the key. We have to alternate our efforts as desired goals are met as far as military and economy is concerned. To be precise, Buddha never talked about balance between two different variables. All he was saying was that for a single vari...
by satyarthi
21 Jun 2008 02:16
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

Four years ago when MMS govt was sworn in, almost everyone thought at least economy will be taken care of . There was immense goodwill for the the dream-team of MMS, Chidambaram and Ahluwalia. Now we are passing through 11% inflation, and the growth is receding from the expected double-digits mark. ...
by satyarthi
20 Jun 2008 06:46
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

enqyoob,

It is not party-loyalty or politics per se. It is a conservative reflex against an unknown. It is a normal conservative response to keep shiny things appearing deep in a hole at a safe distance until you make sure they are gems and not the eyes of a cobra.
by satyarthi
20 Jun 2008 05:38
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

I am still not clear why the scientists have signed on to the deal if it is so bad and constrains us so much. Sridhar, That question is on many minds. There are two possibilities: 1. As you mentioned, there may be a hidden aspect of the deal which makes it attractive to the scientists. Which may al...
by satyarthi
20 Jun 2008 04:44
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

Sridhar, Your questions have been asked in earlier avatars of this thread. But unfortunately there is not much that can be said. GOI has decided to not only keep the public in the dark, it has also kept main opposition out of the loop. It is indeed remarkable that many influential voices including D...
by satyarthi
19 Jun 2008 20:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: War inside Tibet - goals, strategies and equipment
Replies: 790
Views: 117887

Re: War inside Tibet - goals, strategies and equipment

India to raise Finger Area incursions with China: Minister The proper way to "raise" such issues is not in Beijing or on border posts in Sikkim. I think if China intrudes into sikkim, India should raise the issue with the truckers passing through the Xinjiang-Tibet highway in Aksai Chin. ...
by satyarthi
19 Jun 2008 19:37
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008
Replies: 1456
Views: 96998

Re: Indian Nuke News & Discussion Thread-June 18 2008

Congress party and Mulayam have become quite friendly these days. Sometime ago Mayavati was also friendly with Congress, although there has been a fallout. If by some trickery congress manages to get Mulayam's AND Mayavati's support for the nuke deal, they won't need the left parties' support to sur...
by satyarthi
18 Jun 2008 01:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion
Replies: 1812
Views: 338129

Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

can sats be geostationary on any orbital plane or just the equator ? ideally we need them placed over PRC which is well north of the equator. if thats not possible then a army of polar orbit sats will be needed on several parallel tracks covering prc. There is only one geostationary orbit, which is...
by satyarthi
16 Jun 2008 09:13
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2
Replies: 307
Views: 32800

Re: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2

The west wants to keep pakistan alive to keep india on the leash. A nuclear war between Pakistan and India will please China, but won't be useful for the west. The west would rather have India and China fight a nuclear war. So, western efforts would be to stop any indo-pak war degenerating into nucl...
by satyarthi
16 Jun 2008 08:28
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2
Replies: 307
Views: 32800

Re: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2

enqyoob, In my opinion any direct military engagement with the west is rather improbable. So, any acquisitions by India are meant only for deterring rather than actually fighting the west. But Indian situation with Pakistan & China is unique. No other country in the world faces this bizarre comb...
by satyarthi
16 Jun 2008 07:35
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2
Replies: 307
Views: 32800

Re: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2

Tilak, There is another super-secret ISRO (Indian Space-Rakshasa Organization). Perhaps you don't know that the Rakshasas are India's hi-spirit answer to Paki djinns.
by satyarthi
16 Jun 2008 07:09
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2
Replies: 307
Views: 32800

Re: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2

enqyoob, Thanks for the reply. I guess crux of your argument is (please correct me if I am misrepresenting): 1. India needs to acquire some advanced technologies (e.g. hypersonics), at a rapid pace (~5 year time frame). 2. The west is not going to hand over anything related to these technologies, so...
by satyarthi
16 Jun 2008 01:26
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2
Replies: 307
Views: 32800

Re: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2

This is yet another big lighting bolt in the sky that says: MTCR and MTBT on the way! Maybe they'll call it HTBT, so that our Experts can keep building their 10MT Mega_Agni and Soorya boosters. A.k.a. "Targets". What is a realistic time frame in your opinion when "10MT Mega_Agni and ...
by satyarthi
14 Jun 2008 19:36
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuclear News & Discussion - May-2008
Replies: 370
Views: 48963

Re: Indian Nuclear News & Discussion - May-2008

It is only due to the slow formation time of the muonic D-T molecule (5 nanoseconds) which seems to be limiting the muon from catalyzing more fusions. If only some way could be found to speed up the formation of D-μ-T, then perhaps the process could exceed breakeven. Perhaps the buckyball might hel...
by satyarthi
14 Jun 2008 01:18
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2
Replies: 307
Views: 32800

Re: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2

I sense some "amrit" has come out of the "manthan" here, after a looming threat of "halahala". :) P.S. I think using the word "blunder" in strategic decisions of Nehru should be alright, since there is enough and repeated justification for it. Even Brig. Dalvi...
by satyarthi
13 Jun 2008 11:06
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2
Replies: 307
Views: 32800

Re: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2

if you have a huge arsenal, your arsenal is expected to deter the rational. But even if you have a small arsenal, you can utilize irrationality to deter the rational. Deterrence does have a significant piskological components. 1. One of which is the rationality/irrationality aspect as you mention. ...
by satyarthi
13 Jun 2008 05:44
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuclear News & Discussion - May-2008
Replies: 370
Views: 48963

Re: Indian Nuclear News & Discussion - May-2008

Sanatanan, nice compilation! Getting things through the DDM filter is always risky, given the "maya" introduced by the DDM. To recall, maya has two aspects, one covering up of the reality (AvaraNa-shakti), and the other projecting false forms on top of it (prakShepaNa-shakti). It is always...
by satyarthi
12 Jun 2008 05:05
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2
Replies: 307
Views: 32800

Re: Future Nuclear testing: pros and cons-2

Gee! Looks like this 2TON2T (2 Test Or Not 2 Test) fun-fest is over. The Brick-Separation Crack Picture nailed it, and the Abdul-Namibia example was just the coup-de-grace, the "Quattal" so 2 spk. IPL is over too, chiyar-leedars all gone home. Looks like it's time to return to the salt mi...

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