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- 09 Jun 2020 00:12
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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- 08 Jun 2020 23:14
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
You have no idea who you are talking with! He is probably one of few BRFrite with first hand experience of the region. https://www.linkedin.com/in/hari-nair-18798911?originalSubdomain=in And you are speaking with someone who has the leading edge experience in developing relevant network centric war...
- 08 Jun 2020 22:32
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Why is it not open season in Aksai Chin or PoK right now? As per your logic MRLS barrages should be happening in Aksai Chin and PoK. Here is a perfect example of the type of posts I was referring earlier! @Sravan - kindly read up to some reasonable degree before you post!! - And NO, your post is NO...
- 08 Jun 2020 21:54
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Here is what will happen if we "liberate" let's say Lhasa. With PLA been driven out of Lhasa, it will become open season for the Chinese. All they have to do is keep firing their BM & CM from Chengdu fundamentally ravaging the entire city. Along with Tibetans, we will loosing troops, ...
- 08 Jun 2020 16:55
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
I give up. There is no benefit to fighting alone and maintaining no. Alignment. When you fight someone you want to bring your friends and their friends to jump someone. This is how WWII was won. American ships would jump Superior German ships by outnumbering them. That turned the tide of WWII. If yo...
- 08 Jun 2020 15:54
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
It would be foolish to think these quad+ countries would send men and materiel to fight China alongside us, given the current threat levels to countries other than us. Heck, even we are not going to war for a few fingers - any democratic govt would need public support for such an action, or an imme...
- 08 Jun 2020 12:22
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
PS.: Now may be a good time for people to buy/read poster Deans' book (written a year ago) now on AMazon: 2022- India's Two-front War https://www.amazon.com/2022-Indias-two-front-war/dp/1091617422 Thank you for plugging it. The book does indeed deal with all that we have been discussing here. Its f...
- 08 Jun 2020 11:10
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Air support over Tibet from carrier borne aircraft in the Arabian sea? What next, flying tanks and Avengers style heli-carriers? :lol: :lol: What's BRF coming to these days? :shock: BXeUxJ1E-Lc Whether we like it or not, this is happening. Do we want to be caught with our pants down or should we go...
- 08 Jun 2020 09:56
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Walmart does arm the Civilian US population. This is fact. The base in Nevada is the biggest arms depot in the world. Hawthorne Army Depot (HWAD) is a U.S. Army ammunition storage depot located near the town of Hawthorne in western Nevada in the United States. It is directly south of Walker Lake. T...
- 08 Jun 2020 09:13
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Walmart does arm the Civilian US population. This is fact. The base in Nevada is the biggest arms depot in the world. Hawthorne Army Depot (HWAD) is a U.S. Army ammunition storage depot located near the town of Hawthorne in western Nevada in the United States. It is directly south of Walker Lake. Th...
- 08 Jun 2020 06:08
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
We need to win with overwhelming international support and collaboration. We have to define the strategy and shore up the logistics and manpower support with all the democratic countries. In return, India has to create a new sphere of influence and bring about stability to Asia while containing Chin...
- 08 Jun 2020 05:40
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Guys, ... the quadrilateral grouping is all fine , but how exactly is the US, Australia Japan etc going to help india if push comes to shove ? By bringing military pressure to bear on China from the east and south-east (South China Sea, East China Sea, their illegal artificial islands, etc.). This ...
- 08 Jun 2020 04:22
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Now since the Chinese have nothing worth while in airpower or army mass in Tibet, their build up will be openly seen. In our case, our airbases are usually occupied. Not in the case of PLAAF. Ngari was completely empty. If they have to escalate it, PLAAF needs to deploy in strength in Ngari, which ...
- 08 Jun 2020 01:12
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
What the current crisis reiterates is that we must expect the unexpected from both Pak and China.Both sides have used meaningless diplomacy to lull us into a false sense of security time and time again.Take recent history over the last 2 decades. Kargil.Taken by surprise. Series of major terror att...
- 08 Jun 2020 00:13
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
I am not sure whether one can look at things in a black and white fashion as 4 times the economy etc. There is the example of the Israelis against the Arabs wherein multiple countries were fighting against Israel. Or the Chinese against the Vietnamese in '79. What would count more in my calculation...
- 07 Jun 2020 23:25
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Ghar me guske marangeamar_p wrote:Indeed, why not?
- 07 Jun 2020 22:51
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Came across an interesting argument somewhere on yootyoob: China or more exactly CCP will never engage in a full scale war and risk body bags coming back because as a nation that has adopted a forced one child policy for long, soldiers dying on the war front will lead to as many families losing the...
- 07 Jun 2020 19:29
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
All I have to say is this: China is allying with several neighbors to push us. What is wrong in using quad alliances to push them back.
Why are we self imposing restrictions that we have to do it alone? We should have the alliances in place to jump them with numerical and qualitative superiority.
Why are we self imposing restrictions that we have to do it alone? We should have the alliances in place to jump them with numerical and qualitative superiority.
- 07 Jun 2020 14:04
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Your plan will work for a limited period of time. After that, what happens? How long does the air war continue. Do logistics exist for a 6 month period of interdiction. THe concept of a limited war is a little tricky. I've seen a Pakistani general talk on TV about a limited short and sharp war agai...
- 07 Jun 2020 13:51
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Nothing beyond recapturing Aksai Chin, GB. Tibet should be left to Dalai Lama and his followers to start an armed insurgency. Why strategically limit your self. Defending the Himalayas is tougher than defending Tibet. There are only 3-4 roads connecting Tibet to the rest of China. Take those out an...
- 07 Jun 2020 13:47
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
..It is easier to hold Tibet from India vs from China. Tibet is naturally separated from China with climate. We simply need to offer them a logistics supply chain through India. Supply who logistics chain from India?! Like this? https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/nehrus-india-helped-china-conq...
- 07 Jun 2020 13:24
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Too much Tom Clancy-ish thinking going around here. BRF is better than this. Crossing the Himalayas vs 2000km of desert. I would think the desert would require air support on China’s side too. If we have US support for resupplies, it’s a technically feasible strategy. If the Quad countries did a su...
- 07 Jun 2020 12:42
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
..The goal would be to secure Tibet with a mix of India , US, Aus, UK soldiers. Create supply chain and logistics via India using the resources of all five armies. Spearhead the ops and hand over Tibet to the Tibetan government in exile with the Allied forces securing its Borders. Create a coalitio...
- 07 Jun 2020 11:43
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Some members here seem to consume too much Ganja for their own good. Stick to twitter or fb please. And hence ladies and gentlemen, this is what happens. Decision paralysis and lack of action. This thinking will let our neighbors salami slice India for the next 100 years. The Chinese already built ...
- 07 Jun 2020 10:57
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
The goal would be to secure Tibet with a mix of India , US, Aus, UK soldiers. Create supply chain and logistics via India using the resources of all five armies. Spearhead the ops and hand over Tibet to the Tibetan government in exile with the Allied forces securing its Borders. Create a coalition ...
- 07 Jun 2020 10:27
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Your plan will work for a limited period of time. After that, what happens? How long does the air war continue. Do logistics exist for a 6 month period of interdiction. THe concept of a limited war is a little tricky. I've seen a Pakistani general talk on TV about a limited short and sharp war agai...
- 07 Jun 2020 10:01
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Sravan has it right. That is my thinking on Tibet. We are not just fighting for Tibet even though that is a dharmic goal but we are in fact also fighting for India by creating a buffer state as it always was in the past.Perfect time never comes . Now is the perfect time.By not doing anything and si...
- 07 Jun 2020 09:55
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
We had no problems fighting for the British in numerous foreign theaters on wars that weren’t relevant for India. Why can’t we fight for our own nation’s sovereignty and stability? A Tibetan buffer state is hugely beneficial to India. It reinforces the Silliguri Corridor, potentially lead to absorp...
- 07 Jun 2020 07:40
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
That’s why you attack first. You have the element of surprise and you control the pace. You define what winning means. Fortune favors the brave, not the meek. The ground war in TAR will be one component of a full-fledged war of the Asian giants. This time IN and IAF will be involved. Strategic and ...
- 07 Jun 2020 02:10
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Cheen has NO chance to win now. Not with India holding a 10-1 troops advantage. Those weapon systems, if they come, won't improve odds for India. The odds are already overwhelmingly in our favor. All waiting for those uber weapons does is allow Cheen to build up numbers to lower those odds. We have...
- 07 Jun 2020 01:42
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Actually the odd chance of any "win" for the chinese is now. There is a pandemic raging in India and our tech build up has not happened, along with the remaining 25%. In 3 years (if GoI have any sense), we would see good change with Rafale, Astra, LCH, MRSAM,155MM, A2G weapons etc coming ...
- 07 Jun 2020 01:12
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)
- Replies: 6236
- Views: 1793275
Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)
So the dragon hasn’t attacked. A case of reptile dysfunction, no doubt. That’s a flawed logic. They have already attacked by taking Fingers 4-8. The Chinese understand the grey zone that Indians don’t recognize as an attack and repeatedly use it in their favor. The fix is recognizing the change of ...
- 07 Jun 2020 00:43
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Let’s do this.
- 06 Jun 2020 12:59
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
I think the window is closing on hitting them
- 06 Jun 2020 12:52
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
- Replies: 8042
- Views: 1604438
Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Twitter is saying talks failed
- 03 Jun 2020 11:47
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
- Replies: 4479
- Views: 1233948
Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
https://thewire.in/external-affairs/chi ... nath-singh
'Chinese Troops Have Moved Into Eastern Ladakh in Sizeable Numbers,' Says Rajnath Singh
"It is true that people of China are on the border," the defence minister told a TV channel.
- 02 Jun 2020 13:26
- Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
- Topic: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion
- Replies: 1747
- Views: 416059
Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion
Nepal is benefiting from our generosity. We can play the game too. I'm sure we can dig up some old maps where some king few centuries ago conquered parts of current day Nepal and stake claim to that. We can lay claim to entire Terai region of Nepal too. In terms of economy, the Nepalese economy is ...
- 02 Jun 2020 13:17
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
- Replies: 4479
- Views: 1233948
Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
I don't really see the usecase for a "light tank". We already have MBTs in the high altitude plains of ladakh. If we can get an MBT up there and we have sufficient numbers, why settle for a measly 105mm gun. Also, what's the efficacy of a 105mm on an MBT ? The defense against a light tank...
- 02 Jun 2020 12:40
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
- Replies: 4479
- Views: 1233948
Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Thats a no-brainer when you have democratic countries on one side and other side is dictatorship or pseudo-democracies. Also beyond a certain point this rona-dhona gets tiring, especially when it is all scare-mongering. Had we employed a 105mm 33 ton tank, forum would have laughed off as stupid and...
- 02 Jun 2020 11:53
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
- Replies: 4479
- Views: 1233948
Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
I hate to say I told you so,but some may remember my highlighting the need for a light tank for the mountains over a year ago, precisely for the actions of the duplicitous Chinese. I questioned the huge extravaganza trotted out to XI at Mahabalipuram,saying that Modiji would be betrayed and that XI...