Bharat Rakshak

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NRao,

I don't think MMS's statements to Parliament were a mistake. Far from it.

What was a mistake was that they were a bit too infrequent, which I suspect is a cause for a lot of angst.

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NRao, I have not posted my hypothesis on what I think happened behind the scenes. Here it is: You remember the complains on our side that a lot of people were not kept in the loop when J18 (and subsequently M2) was originally conceived and negotiated? The same sort of complains were also voiced in t...

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VSudhir, From my perspective, the nuclear deal was not just about the final text of the 123 agreement but also the process in which the text came about to be. Look at the past post of mine that I quoted for NRao where I talk about the trust building aspect of the nuclear deal. This was supposed to b...

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NRao, I forgot to mention this in my last post and don't want to edit it as it is overly long as it is. What do I think about the Hyde act and J18/M2 and how they relate to the 123 agreement? Very simply, the Hyde act is inconsequential and irrelevant for us as far as the 123 agreement goes. It is o...

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NRao, You have had a bee up your bonnet about the Hyde act for a long time now. Let me make my views on that clear instead of skirting around it in our back and forth. You claim you have a source that informs you that the GoI had set aside a lobbying budget for the Hyde act and that to me seems to b...

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NRao, Here is that first post to you that I talked about in the last thread: This talk of there is more to Indo-US relations that the nuclear deal or that this deal is a minor affair in Indo-US relations is all hogwash. The nuclear part of the nuclear deal happens to be incidental. This deal was an ...

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Satya, Even I think rewriting the Hyde act is not something that can realistically happen. So what? That is entirely America's problem. Where in that ToI article did you find a GoI official saying that the Hyde act was acceptable or that the nuclear deal is going to be along the lines of the Hyde ac...

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Arun, In my view, the reprocessing issue in the nuclear deal is important to us from the perspective of waste storage and management. I do not think the DAE is going to put any FBRs and AHWRs and the associated reprocessing plants on the civilian side in the foreseeable future. AK in one of his inte...

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NRao, One more thing about the separate reprocessing plant. I don't see how that is a compromise of any sort on anything. The reprocessing that would have taken place under campaign safeguards in existing plants before will just take place in a different dedicated plant now. And that is actually goo...

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NRao, Firstly as an aside, why no response to my first post? Just curious. Secondly, none of your three reasons make sense: I see more NRIs, etc parroting what Burns, Inc has been saying NRIs are not Indian citizens. They are not expected to have India's interests in mind. Anyone who thinks otherwis...

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I am nearly certain that the upper end of PAD's envelope is as high as 80 km and not 50 km.

The intercept in the first test happened at 50 km.

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So are we back to calling people sellouts and traitors? That idiotic nautanki continues? Satya: The pentagon part of the pentagon visit is also incidental. Look at who is sitting at the top of the pentagon. Under whom did the effort to improve Indo-US relations originally begin all those years ago? ...

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NRao, This talk of there is more to Indo-US relations that the nuclear deal or that this deal is a minor affair in Indo-US relations is all hogwash. The nuclear part of the nuclear deal happens to be incidental. This deal was an exercise in trust building, a confidence building measure of sorts. The...

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JCage, Any more info on the Samrat project. It seems directed towards developing the basic building blocks of the next generation of Indian EW systems rather than any specific EW system. Staying on the Samyukta for a moment: I knew it was big (a system mounted on ~150 Tatra trucks is big by any stan...

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JCage, Thanks! I was going through the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Defence reports and found references to those two projects that I was unaware of. As an aside, I never realized how truly massive the Samyukta project really is until I saw the amount of money involved: ~1300 crore for the Sa...

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All,

Does anyone know what the Sagardhwani and Samvahak projects are? The latter project is some kind of an EW system and the former project has been completed.

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JCage,

Some confusion here. Is Sangraha a program to develop EW systems for the navy (i.e. Ellora, Kite, Homi, Porpoise etc.) or is it an EW system itself like the Samyukta?

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no, it was audible what he said..he said that the USAF was "pleasantly" surprised to see that the IAF fighters were able to identify them before they could identify the IAF fighters.. in his exact words "we could pick up the American F-16s much stronger than they could pick up..so pr...

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JCage, The Mirage's EW suite was the only one specifically mentioned by name in the "outperformed them all" comment. The part where he talks about the Kalaikunda exercises has too much ambient noise to make out his words clearly. As an aside, what does the Wing Commander know about aircraf...

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Arun, On closer inspection and comparison with the second photo, it does seem that the puff of smoke is coming from the area joining the adapter and the RV, i.e. the base of the RV. So you are right, it does seem like the HAM is venting excess propellant. Also, can you post a link to the video that ...

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Just throwing in my two paise, That puff of white smoke seems to come not from the RV but from the adapter that connects the RV to the second stage. My guess is that there are a number of small thrusters arranged all around the adapter that are perpendicular to the direction of motion and that these...

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Singha, Not quite. The endo-atmospheric interceptor is built around a solid rocket motor that is around 60-70 cm in diameter and around 600 cm in length. A lot different from the air breathing ramjet of the Akask. There is a photograph of a full scale mock-up on ACIG taken during the last DefExpo. O...

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Arun,

The top left image in the panel of four images in the "Introduction: Agni III" section of BR's Agni page has a broken url.

Please fix it.

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Gerard, I just realized the surroundings. A model, or the real thing? First stage looks too short. What is the excitement all about? The Wheeler Island launch pad is surrounded by a dense thicket of trees. Thats all you are seeing in the picture. The first stage is partly masked by the trees and so ...

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Arun, Subramanian further writes: The entire sequence of the Agni III's flight was tracked by radars at the Integrated Test Range at Chandipur-on-sea near Balasore, Orissa; the Outer Wheeler Island, Dhamra on the coast of Orissa; Port Blair and ships stationed at impact points in the Bay of Bengal. ...

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T Subramanian in the Hindu: The series of successes in the last six months, including that of the Prithvi interceptor missile, the launch of Dhanush, the success of another strategic system and now the Agni III "signify that we are maturing in these difficult technologies," said Mr. Natara...

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Shiv,

Ahh ... I did not think of it that way. You are probably correct. In hind sight, that is not too surprising: I am still waiting on the 200 cm diameter Trishul.

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Arun,

Something interesting from Rajiv's link: "The missile is said to have a diameter of 18.2 m." For sure the DDM meant length there. The number seems too precise to have been pulled from the DDM's musharaff.

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Both CNN-IBN and NDTV are reporting that the Agni 3 has been test fired. No further word though.

Karan,
Have a second one just for kicks.

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Don't get worked up so much over no news. As much as BR would like to have a live feed straight from Wheeler Island, it ain't getting one. My guess is that word will be given out only after the flight test has been completed and a preliminary analysis of the telemetry data has been done. So relax, h...

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Arun,

The 3.6m length of the single warhead RV seems a bit too long. Is that indicative of the presence of a HAM/HAE on the A3?

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ARMs are a different matter...some more footwork to go in that respect...also while the IAF may gladly purchase KH-31Ps from abroad...expect nothing but the latest, multi-band, widebandwidth seekers from any homegrown ARM..and that kind of seeker will take time to develop (if launched!)..imported s...

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That looks like a bombing range for ground attack aircraft rather than a disguised airfield.

Those large clean circles of earth with the white dots in the centre at the northern end of the facility would be typical of a bombing range. I have seen similar such things at an IAF bombing range.

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Johann, Whatever leakage of technology takes place will happen under a public but unverifiable cover story like the aforementioned crash in the Arabian sea, the bunker explosion etc. I doubt that relying on intelligence information or loose talk on the Pakistani or Chinese side to catch transfers wi...

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Johann, It seems that you guys have learnt nothing from your past dealings with the Pakistanis. The way things are set up there is nothing to prevent the Pakistanis from staging any number of Ojhri type incidents to slip things under the table to the Chinese. How will an American team six months fro...

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Johann, I do not have a source handy for the following so take it for what its worth: The Americans transferred 2 F-16s to Pakistan a while ago. My faint recollection places the transfer at about 9-12 months ago. I could be wrong on that timeline but I am sure that it was 2 F-16s. The source of thos...

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when u use pi = 22/7 for approximate work...do u know who to thank - ans.. Bhaskara. A related bit of pi trivia: We can construct an arbitrarily accurate rational approximation of pi via a high enough convergent of its (simple) continued fraction representation. 22/7 is the first convergent, 333/10...

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At around the 0:52-0:53 mark in the CNN-IBN video, there is an altitude vs. range plot for a regular Prithvi taken from the DRDO presentation. Compare that with Arun's plot on BR's Prithvi page. They are nearly identical.

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