Bharat Rakshak

There was a discussion earlier in the thread disproved the above assertion I think. Its a link from newscentral24x7. I am getting a malicious warning sign regarding the site when i try to open it up. This was posted by Tsarkar then. attaching the two links

https://newscentral24x7.com/indian-air- ... -dassault/

search.php?keywords=rafale+naming&t=7266&sf=msgonly

the latest news searches all seem to have the same assertion that the Rafale is named after ex chiefs.

ldev wrote:

Austin wrote: The next competition for 108 fighter IMHO would be 3 way contest between Gripen , F-16 and Mig-35 .....The Eurofighter , Su-35 and Rafale are just there for RFP sake.

Grifen - in what shape or form is is better than the LCA?
F-16 - no way will the IAF accept it specially after the recent clash with Pakistan despite LM re-naming it F21!!
Mig 35 - the IAF has also had it's fill of maintenance intensive Russian aircraft so they will say nyet to that. Besides, renaming the Mig 29 the Mig 35 is like LM renaming the F16 as the F21.

And that brings us back to the Rafale and the IAF will want them in whatever numbers the budget can afford.

Gripen : Logistics commonality with LCA Mk1/Mk2 , Single Engine Fighter , Low on TCO and OPEX ( but uses American Engine and perhaps many other component , Prone to US Sanctions at any time like Tejas ) , Full TOT Possible
F-16: Medium Weight Fighter , Proven Frame and Reliability , But need to build total new Logistics for it and the US Weapons , Integration of Indian Weapons doubtful , Single Engine means low OPEX cost , US Fighter Prone to US sanctions any time in its life , Full TOT Doubtful
Mig-35 : Like IN Mig-29K and IAF 29UPG , Exisitng logistic for Aircraft , Engine and Weapon exist , Integration of 3rd party/Indian weapon possible , Full TOT Possible. But being twin engine will be on the higher side of OPEX.

My choice will be Gripen , Mig-35 and F-16 in that order , Sweden is not a stragic partner , So choice is between F-21/16 verus Mig-35.

Karan , More Rafale is not possible .......it has high cost and since 2014 till date Cost will just rise due to Mil Inflation.

We need 108 fighter beyond the 250 Mk1/M2 Tejas IAF is commited too.

Mk2 is no where in horizon yet and Mk1 production is yet to start , 108 fighter will build the Time Lag of Tejas and additional 5-6 Squadron going out by 2025

ldev wrote:

Austin wrote: The next competition for 108 fighter IMHO would be 3 way contest between Gripen , F-16 and Mig-35 .....The Eurofighter , Su-35 and Rafale are just there for RFP sake.

Grifen - in what shape or form is is better than the LCA?
F-16 - no way will the IAF accept it specially after the recent clash with Pakistan despite LM re-naming it F21!!
Mig 35 - the IAF has also had it's fill of maintenance intensive Russian aircraft so they will say nyet to that.

And that brings us back to the Rafale and the IAF will want them in whatever numbers the budget can afford.

Well said. One is a replica of our MWF program, why bother with it? Second, the opponent knows its ins and out better than the IAF and the third, is unproven and likely to be a maintenance hog. Just buy more Rafales, Su-30s, LCAs and begin the Su-30 upgrade program.

Apart from the radar, we already have a lot of stuff for the Su-30 upgrade too in trials. We should pour more funds into that, and if we can't wait for that, even build out a silver bullet 2-3 squadron force equipped with EL/M-2052, I-Derby ER, Elisra pods etc.

Austin wrote: The next competition for 108 fighter IMHO would be 3 way contest between Gripen , F-16 and Mig-35 .....The Eurofighter , Su-35 and Rafale are just there for RFP sake.

Grifen - in what shape or form is is better than the LCA?
F-16 - no way will the IAF accept it specially after the recent clash with Pakistan despite LM re-naming it F21!!
Mig 35 - the IAF has also had it's fill of maintenance intensive Russian aircraft so they will say nyet to that. Besides, renaming the Mig 29 the Mig 35 is like LM renaming the F16 as the F21.

And that brings us back to the Rafale and the IAF will want them in whatever numbers the budget can afford.

tsarkar wrote:

Rakesh wrote:A must read article for *Everyone* on BRF. This is how mis-information spreads....

Is Indian Air Force Naming Rafale After a Serving Air Marshal?
https://newscentral24x7.com/indian-air- ... -dassault/

Rakesh, request you to post this in a central location so that DDM perfidy is exposed.

Saar, I do not know where else to put this. By the way, check this out..

https://twitter.com/VishnuNDTV/status/1 ... 5731264512 --> Negative Sir. Both Snehesh Philip and I stand by our tweets on this. Snehesh Philip has some more detail in an article he has done today. Kindly see. Thanks.

Rakesh wrote:A must read article for *Everyone* on BRF. This is how mis-information spreads....

Is Indian Air Force Naming Rafale After a Serving Air Marshal?
https://newscentral24x7.com/indian-air- ... -dassault/

Rakesh, request you to post this in a central location so that DDM perfidy is exposed.

A must read article for *Everyone* on BRF. This is how mis-information spreads....

Is Indian Air Force Naming Rafale After a Serving Air Marshal?
https://newscentral24x7.com/indian-air- ... -dassault/