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by kaangeya
23 Feb 2009 08:36
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4246
Views: 1208486

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Special Forces Command - again? That assumes that there is one kind of special forces assignment or else why ever would one need a separate command? There's no jointness? I am tired of hearing this. So the Marcos securing Wular is all about the IN's needs rather than the IA? Beats me. If this is not...
by kaangeya
23 Feb 2009 04:56
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4246
Views: 1208486

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

The problem in India is that there are too many Forces doing the same thing. The BSF was raised basically because of the fear that the IA could do a coup and so the govt had an equivalent force to counter it. Hence was placed under the MHA . That is but one of the reason left unsaid. Talking thru t...
by kaangeya
21 Feb 2009 19:21
Forum: Military Scenarios Archive
Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XII
Replies: 3420
Views: 951929

Re: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XII

In the PAF the IAF has a well trained, professional, and thoughtful adversary, anything unlike what Israel faces. If you remember Gp.Capt. Kapil Bhargava's analysis of Israeli tactics in the 1967 war you will not be very impressed with the IsAF. When your adversary and his wingman can't do as much a...
by kaangeya
02 Feb 2009 00:48
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Military Multimedia - Indian Armed Forces
Replies: 2239
Views: 604538

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

Aah! Vijeta the original Top Gun! Hard to beat for authenticity. Don't miss the dance scene at the Oorials Mess when you can see Ms. Verghese (Supriya Pathak) wearing flowers in her hair!
by kaangeya
29 Jan 2009 10:51
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Kargil War Thread - VI
Replies: 1431
Views: 407803

Re: Kargil War Thread - VI

Air Cmde Tufail is as straight as the PAF gets. I am not surprised about his Op Vijay IAF Orbat knowledge. Not at all. Remember this is 10 years since it happened. There's heck a lot of information floating around. I am surprised A/C Tufail doesn't realise the irony of his rather bland words as here...
by kaangeya
20 Jan 2009 11:22
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military
Replies: 3954
Views: 1884346

Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

[quote][i]Indian Army Chief Gen. Deepak Kapoor presents a bar signifying the second Sena Medal (Gallantry) to Major Longjam Jimkelly Meetei during Army Day celebrations in New Delhi on Thursday.[/i][/quote]

Not to miss the smartly turned out Lady Officer holding the salver for Gen. Kapoor :mrgreen:
by kaangeya
13 Jan 2009 09:19
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military
Replies: 3954
Views: 1884346

Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Something about these pics is really kick ass. Gen Sekhon's body language is kick ass first ask questions later. His men show the same grit in other pics. That's what you get in a force where even starred officers keep fighting fit and work hard to maintain their weapons/flight rating rather than r...
by kaangeya
30 Dec 2008 20:57
Forum: Military Scenarios Archive
Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XII
Replies: 3420
Views: 951929

Re: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XII

I am disappointed that the deep thinkers of RAND are little better than a scenario spinner from Toronto, ON. Ignorant as the TSP establishment may be, they are not fools.
by kaangeya
25 Dec 2008 12:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4246
Views: 1208486

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Hostage rescue is a police job (specially trained SWAT police), its not sub conventional warfare. If by hostage rescue you mean a Mumbai type Ops, from your fist comment itself, it looks like the discussions of the last few weeks re the inadequacy of SWAT for Special Ops have passed by you complete...
by kaangeya
25 Dec 2008 02:38
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4246
Views: 1208486

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

...it comes from an ex. Lt General and a former PARA(SF) chap himself. So he does command more respect then a snide remark. Please note my words, I refer to an alleged whine not the real thing. How could I since I haven't read the report/letter/memo etc? So Gen.Lidder a former Para SF says that we ...
by kaangeya
23 Dec 2008 09:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4246
Views: 1208486

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

There's a half-xxxxd post on the companion thread based on an alleged whine and moan report from a senior retired IA officer, published in Outlook. Extraordinarily dumb of the reporter to demand that a unfied command be created to manage six v.v.different units - NSG, Marcos, SG, SFF, IA Commandos, ...
by kaangeya
22 Dec 2008 09:15
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack :Discussion Thread
Replies: 164
Views: 94346

Re: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack :Discussion Thread

Over the past few weeks there has been much emotional outcries, especially calls for "Do it like they do it in Israel!" and other such myopic rhetoric. It was completely understandable, hence I didn't attempt to question them on a point-to-point basis. Now I think would be a good time to ...
by kaangeya
14 Dec 2008 20:24
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack :Discussion Thread
Replies: 164
Views: 94346

Re: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack :Discussion Thread

There is that unknown factor about regular forces that irregulars can never match. There is much more to SF training than what the piglets went thru. for a variety of reasons a bunch of piglets in Pakistan cant be put thru a full monty program like the SSG Musas. And then for SF are not meant to tak...
by kaangeya
14 Dec 2008 04:14
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack :Discussion Thread
Replies: 164
Views: 94346

Re: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack :Discussion Thread

I think the there is a need to raise a specialised force within the armed forces, for urban warfare. Some of the capabilities that should be considred include. +Long distance snipers. :roll: +armoured and bomb proof gear defuse bombs. :roll: +use of gas and other medium to take out the foe. :?: +us...
by kaangeya
13 Dec 2008 19:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4246
Views: 1208486

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

PD = Police Department as in New York PD
FD = Fire Dept as in FDNY
by kaangeya
13 Dec 2008 09:17
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4246
Views: 1208486

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Hnair, thanks for setting the record straight. SWAT teams working for anything more than an hour get pumped up and all hot. Dammit I have done ride-alongs in fall nights in police cruisers - the tension is palpable and it does get very stuffy inside the car and all smelly in about an hour. And these...
by kaangeya
13 Dec 2008 01:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4246
Views: 1208486

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

The military is also distrustful of the police leadership because of their record of giving in easily to the whims and fancies of our netas and babus. Every time a military personnel encounters sloth, inefficiency, corruption and incompetence on the part of the police, they lose a little faith in th...
by kaangeya
12 Dec 2008 20:44
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack :Discussion Thread
Replies: 164
Views: 94346

Re: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack (News and Pics ONLY)

Praveen Swami isn't a run of the mill naysayer and calls a spade a spade - for instance he has been unsparing in rubbishing all the conspiracy theories cooked up over the Bhatla House encounter. But then everyone has an axe to grind. And Swami has his. In India you do have a strong police lobby the ...
by kaangeya
12 Dec 2008 19:22
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack :Discussion Thread
Replies: 164
Views: 94346

Re: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack (News and Pics ONLY)

How much do you know about counter terror, other then reading some online articles. :(( Enough to call out your ignorance :P Praveen Swami is BSing again. SWAT teams that I know wear sensible sealed all weather boots, nothing magical about them. And who is this unnamed expert he is talking to? Has ...
by kaangeya
12 Dec 2008 09:40
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack :Discussion Thread
Replies: 164
Views: 94346

Re: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack (News and Pics ONLY)

Forget the admins, but I gotta respond to this very ill-informed post by Praveen Swami who is otherwise well informed about the insides of terrorist organizations and their operations. He is being very naive and even worse to talk about infantry officers introducing a hierarchical and rank bound cul...
by kaangeya
11 Dec 2008 20:18
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Small Arms Thread
Replies: 4653
Views: 1500725

Re: Small Arms Thread

In the sort of densely peopled spaces we have in India your typical Police Cruiser weapons load would be dangerous - 9mm handgun + M4 and 12 Ga. Shotgun in the car. Instead the cop on beat must have a your standard handgun and teams of four in the area with the full weapon load on standby for backup...
by kaangeya
11 Dec 2008 19:25
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4246
Views: 1208486

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Can we stop using these ridiculous names like Panthers, Cats etc? It sounds like we are talking of College and professional sports teams. The men whom we are talking about are quite unaffected by it all. Remember that interview with the NSG in the bus with that breathless reporter from Times TV? The...
by kaangeya
11 Dec 2008 07:38
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Small Arms Thread
Replies: 4653
Views: 1500725

Re: Small Arms Thread

Praveen Swami touches upon the topic a little but not exactly right with his facts. The classic 9 x 19 mm Parabellum round does have this problem of high penetration power. But a hollow point bullet takes care of that problem to quite an extent. A few armies are switching over to the 4.47 mm MP7. Bu...
by kaangeya
09 Dec 2008 07:23
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Small Arms Thread
Replies: 4653
Views: 1500725

Re: Small Arms Thread

It is about time the entire police were armed with a modern handgun at a minimum. remember the days when Calcutta Police carried a revolver at all times? Beyond that at least the four man team should be armed to the teeth, 1 handgun each+2 shotguns+2 assault rifles
by kaangeya
07 Dec 2008 22:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4246
Views: 1208486

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

The on the shoulder mike Comm gear (to be seen in every cop show in Massaland) or cuff strapped comm gear (in every FBI booted suited types shows) isn't favored by quite a few cops for rough and tumble work. One cop tells me about how he lost his shoulder mike during a scuffle with a juiced up suspe...
by kaangeya
07 Dec 2008 20:10
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack (News and Pics ONLY)
Replies: 176
Views: 210435

Re: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack (News and Pics ONLY)

The defence-strategy guy is wrong. The MP5 is pretty good at rapid fire with mild recoil and as reliable as it gets. Of course some forces are now switching over to the MP7 because it may combine the functions of a CQ rapid fire and automatic, and carries >40 rounds IIRC with high penetrative power....
by kaangeya
06 Dec 2008 19:42
Forum: Terrorism Archive
Topic: Terror Attacks in Mumbai - IV
Replies: 2097
Views: 365346

Re: Terror Attacks in Mumbai - IV

Kasab is already broken by the constant interrogations and the sleuths fear for suicide attempt. To avoid any such possibility, an ATS constable guards him from the moment he wakes up till he goes to sleep. In past, under trials have used towels or shirt and trouser to hang themselves up from ceili...
by kaangeya
05 Dec 2008 19:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4246
Views: 1208486

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Re BPJ, police officers in the US by default wear them under shirt, and after some hemming and hawing and much representation, there are now custom designed BPJs for women police officers :mrgreen: But all of us forget that in police action the distances are v.close and the police must give the susp...
by kaangeya
04 Dec 2008 22:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4246
Views: 1208486

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Rohitvats, I don't see what the problem is in having Para and Para(SF) Batln in the same regiment. As all of us know the days of mass para drops are unlikely to ever return. Today paradrops is a specific skill to be used in a few different situations and not for mass infiltration behind enemy lines ...
by kaangeya
04 Dec 2008 19:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4246
Views: 1208486

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

I have always believed that PA always has had much better appreciation of the SF capability as an institution and have used them better than us. :eek: Really? Any notable operations? 1965? Siachen Bana Post? While no one is suggesting that the rank and file of the TSP armed forces consists of cowar...
by kaangeya
03 Dec 2008 23:35
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4246
Views: 1208486

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

For deep in the countryside work a well trained and equipped constabulary can do the job. It took years to nab Veerappan and poor training and equipment being entirely the reason. While Karnataka fiddled for years and did nothing, Jaya in TN tried a little harder. In her 1st essay 1992-97 she set up...
by kaangeya
03 Dec 2008 03:37
Forum: Terrorism Archive
Topic: Terror Attacks in Mumbai - IV
Replies: 2097
Views: 365346

Re: Terror Attacks in Mumbai - IV

A small request to the Taj hotel management. How about a one-week, all-expenses-paid vacation for these guys at your hotel? This was about the only time they could have afforded to sit in your reception Not just the NSG, but also the Marcos+Bombay Fire Brigade+Bombay Police+Indian Army+Rapid Action...
by kaangeya
02 Dec 2008 06:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Newbie Corner & Military Miscellaneous
Replies: 4126
Views: 857814

Re: MARCOS & NSG ops in Mumbai Attack (News and Pics ONLY)

Indian counter-terrorist forces were well trained but failed to gather sufficient intelligence before engaging the terrorists, they said. "In hostage situations, the first thing the forces are supposed to do is assemble at the scene and begin collecting intelligence ," said a former offic...
by kaangeya
26 Nov 2008 20:08
Forum: Military Exercises Archive
Topic: NDTV Documentary and Vishnu's report on Red-Flag video
Replies: 159
Views: 134080

Re: NDTV Documentary and Vishnu's report on Red-Flag video

Hi Kaangeya. I have been resisting so far not to post this but there have been too many "The Col should atleast know this" type posts. I talked to one IA officer who happens to be my friend and he didn't know about PLA's main infantry rifile. Another said that Beretta is german and "...
by kaangeya
25 Nov 2008 21:31
Forum: Military Exercises Archive
Topic: NDTV Documentary and Vishnu's report on Red-Flag video
Replies: 159
Views: 134080

Re: NDTV Documentary and Vishnu's report on Red-Flag video

Before we rush to add our 2 bits worth to the crockpot of criticism, let's not forget the absolutely asinine article by Adm. (Retd) JG Nadkarni on rediff.com a few days after the LCA's 1st flight that recommended that the program be scrapped :mrgreen: How many things were wrong with that? While it d...
by kaangeya
20 Nov 2008 09:37
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy and International Anti-Piracy Ops
Replies: 1192
Views: 296003

Re: INS Tabar destroys pirate mothership

this is becoming big news. was just watching the Rachel Maddow Show. Alison Stewart standing in today for Rachel calls the pirate ship firing on INS Tabar akin to a punk tugging on Superman's cape :wink: And claims that India is acting up because $100 billion worth Indian shipping passes thru the re...
by kaangeya
19 Nov 2008 18:36
Forum: Military Scenarios Archive
Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XII
Replies: 3420
Views: 951929

Re: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XII

Vivek Sir,
I don't want to extend my Visa here moreover this Howard johnson Hotel sucks. In case you don't kill those S300's , I may be forced to do it myself... . Don't deny me this pleasure of seeing their destruction...
It seems we have the 5th grader jingos market cornered :rotfl:
by kaangeya
05 Oct 2008 03:14
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military
Replies: 3954
Views: 1884346

Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

The Indian Armed Forces are home to all right thinking men and women, all people of honour.

Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Isai, Baudh, o' Jain
Sabko mere salaam
8)
by kaangeya
02 Aug 2008 08:35
Forum: Military Scenarios Archive
Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XI
Replies: 335
Views: 173155

Re: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XI

It is not case so much that the PLAAF AD network is deep and broad. It is the case the the IAF has still a long way to go before it can take on a strategic attack role. Remember barring the USAF and to a slightly lesser extent the RuAF all the world's AFs are still tactical forces, not tru strategic...
by kaangeya
28 Jun 2008 02:39
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw passes away
Replies: 191
Views: 107498

Re: Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw passes away

From The Dawn, next door, dated though. I am sure there are enough sane minds over there that can't but be moved/puzzled/WTF'd :eek: :roll: by the scale of tribute and homage paid to this soldier's soldier. The contrast between Sam Bahadur and their own rapacious [i]Crore "Chor" [Corps] Co...