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by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 18:58
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Unfortunately the rafale F1 had no sensor fusion, no FSO and issue with its radar. This standard was a stop gap solution to replace f8 crusaders in 1999. Not anymore in service, mothballed since several years. Try something else. Only a dozen F1 manufactured. It takes 18 month to upgrade to current ...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 18:31
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Take a holistic view of the IAF's planned order of battle. It first wanted replacements for the hundreds of MIG-21/23/27s,etc. The LCA was supposed to deliver the goods,but it failed to appear on time. Thus,the 21 Bison was developed and 120+ built/modernized as an interim solution. The SU-30MKI ma...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 18:28
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Err... actually the "tension" is more like "mirth" at the inability of a certain poster to understand that the Rafale is just another platform with its own set of pros and cons, and that the IAF has more options on the table than just the Rafale. Unfortunately, its you, with you...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 18:23
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

LOL, all you do is extrapolation. You have taken French sources of claims of superiority in sensor fusion and then claim JSF, Sun, Sky, Moon, Su-35, EF, all are behind. Its laughable. -Aren't many doing the same with the SU30 and Typhoon exercise ? (double standard). Is the swiss evaluation or the ...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 18:04
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

The Rafale did not top the Typhoon in BVR or any other performance metric in the MMRCA from what has been revealed. Much like the ATF competition, what they said was that 2 aircraft met the criteria and one was more affordable. That's the way I understand it anyway. did I say otherwise ? I just sai...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 17:45
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
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Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

-First, my comments are backed with sources as often as possible. I could make the same statement on your posts : talking about the F4 kills without detailing the ROEs, omitting officials source of info on rafale's modules. Err no.. you only selectively quote stuff that backs up your own preconceiv...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 17:37
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Many claims to have sensor fusion, but very few achieve it. You can find official PPT slides on the typhoon claiming sensor fusion all over the net (just google on picture searchfinder) but this has been described by actual testers and pilots as a typhoon weak point in both the swiss eval and in the...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 17:28
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

page 8/8 http://www.dassault-aviation.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2012/08/foxThree_n11.pdf And yes the photo is photoshopped. Sigh, still missing the point by a mile!! It need not be PS'ed - it could have merely been the first set with larger modules. Thats not the issue though. When your peer...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 17:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Ok so if the rafale is so inferior Its not that inferior. Its ok. Its only that your completely over the top statements are ridiculous. according to you why did it pass IAF technical evaluation ? India wanted a second source of fighters bar Sukhoi which has had far too much dominance with both the ...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 17:14
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

page 8/8 The AESA radar array will be made up of more than 1 ,000 trans - mitter/receiver modules so that several can fail with no significant degradation in acuity. It will further contribute to the Rafale’s excellent reliability. The RBE2’s open architecture will facilitate upgrading, and the new ...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 16:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Ok so if the rafale is so inferior according to you why did it pass IAF technical evaluation ? Why other air force rated the rafale so high during their own technical evaluation ? How could the rafale defeat the typhoon in BVR ?
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 16:37
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

First, picture available on the net of the RBE2 radar are photoshoped to hide the exact number of modules. The only official things you can find is "more than 1000" on Dassault's website (fox three to be precise). DSI, a serious defense publication said 1001 modules for the rafale and 1437...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 16:13
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

I don't dispute the SU30 mki shouldn't be taken lightly. However it has some weaknesses : its ergonomics, MMI and sensors are at least a generation behind (about 15 to 20 years old now). In a complex environment and ROEs, SU30 crews will be quickly overwhelmed by information, loosing the tactical p...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 16:10
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

I don't dispute the SU30 mki shouldn't be taken lightly. However it has some weaknesses : its ergonomics, MMI and sensors are at least a generation behind (about 15 to 20 years old now). In a complex environment and ROEs, SU30 crews will be quickly overwhelmed by information, loosing the tactical p...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 15:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Typhoon already corelates tracks into a single screen but this is different from true sensor fusion where almost raw sensor inputs are processed in a single processing units to build the tactical situation (the MDPU for the rafale). To achieve true sensor fusion, a complete redesign of Typhoon syst...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 13:57
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Hogwash in a true combat scenario, the MKI can hold its own both in BVR & WVR. While employing a mix of Long Range R-77s/ R-27s, the MKI can start the fight from a long range. The MKI also carries more ordnance and can stay longer in the air, with R-27s it doesn't even have to have a radar to s...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 12:58
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

There does appear to be a faction within the establishment disillusioned with the pace of LCA development,and spent on it,see SAAB and the Gripen as a way to to salvage the huge cost and effort already spent on the entire programme. AS I posted earlier,the LCA MK-2 may see some SAAB involvement and...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 12:35
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

I am not convinced by sensor fusion for the typhoon in the near future (P4E). It is not just a software patch but rethinking and redesigning the whole system. True sensor fusion that you can find on the F35 or the rafale is very different from mere sensor corelation and it takes years to achieve. A...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 02:14
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 3366
Views: 516728

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Have you read latest british parlementary report on the typhoon on unleashing its true potential ? Because EW and sensor fusion were pointed as weak areas. You're thinking of the recent RUSI report not a parliamentary committee report. And it identified the active component of the EW system as requ...
by arthuro
10 Aug 2015 01:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 3366
Views: 516728

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Being neither indian or british, I understand that the sukhoi has better slow speed maneuvrability than the typhoon which is a clear asset in a dogfight. Slow speed maneuvring is a known weakness for the typhoon and is being adressed with upgraded aerodynamics (lerx). It is an upgrade option for ty...
by arthuro
09 Aug 2015 18:17
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 3366
Views: 516728

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Being neither indian or british, I understand that the sukhoi has better slow speed maneuvrability than the typhoon which is a clear asset in a dogfight. Slow speed maneuvring is a known weakness for the typhoon and is being adressed with upgraded aerodynamics (lerx). It is an upgrade option for typ...
by arthuro
08 Aug 2015 15:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 3366
Views: 516728

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Hi folks ... Just so everyone is clear here ... I stand by my article 100 % ... I accept that there are sensitivities and yes, I was able to access more on-the-record information than many in the UK or perhaps even in some quarters of the IAF would have liked - but the information stands. This isn'...
by arthuro
08 Aug 2015 02:24
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 3366
Views: 516728

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

RAF has debunked IAF analysis Could you share the debunking? Sources from the RAF state, however, that Indian planes were being 'bedded in' to new terrain and effectively shown the ropes. The RAF were "introducing them to the airspace", putting the Typhoons up against the Sukhois in somet...
by arthuro
08 Aug 2015 02:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 3366
Views: 516728

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

From a discussion with a rafale pilot a few years ago (who did red flag 2008 with indian sukhoi), the SU30 is all about brute force (big aircraft, big engines, big radar) but is lagging behind in terms of sophistication, ergonomics, situation awarness. In a complex dense environment it is difficult ...
by arthuro
08 Aug 2015 02:14
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 3366
Views: 516728

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

For the record: Sources from the RAF state, however, that Indian planes were being 'bedded in' to new terrain and effectively shown the ropes. The RAF were "introducing them to the airspace", putting the Typhoons up against the Sukhois in something more akin to a pigeon-shooting exercise, ...
by arthuro
08 Aug 2015 02:10
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 3366
Views: 516728

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

So now that's the RAF has debunked IAF analysis and claims typhoon superiority in this exercise : Back to beginning ?
by arthuro
06 Aug 2015 15:57
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Here is a report from a French journalist on the rafale discussing about various positive and negative elements on the rafale. First, I’m writing down these tidbits here, not in a porail-aviation.com article for several reasons : either the collected informations weren’t cross-checked (obtained thro...
by arthuro
06 Aug 2015 15:51
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 3366
Views: 516728

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Why IAF is pushing so hard for more rafales if the SU30 could perform as well for cheaper in all missons ?
by arthuro
31 Jul 2015 18:39
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
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Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

IAF pushes for 20 more Rafale fighters from France NEW DELHI: India and France are now trying to swiftly finalize the government-to-government deal for direct acquisition of 36 Rafale fighters, even as the earlier $20 billion MMRCA (medium multi-role combat aircraft) project for 126 such jets stand...
by arthuro
30 Jul 2015 20:14
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 243518

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

According to Reuters quoting a source involved in rafale export negotiations, two more export contracts could be signed before end of 2015 on top of the indian one : UAE and Malaysia which are at a very advanced stage in terms of negotiations acording to this source. This source says the 36 rafale f...
by arthuro
10 May 2015 21:52
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014
Replies: 3963
Views: 156455

Re: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014

Pl. Ck this out in the Turkey/Talisman td. New US fighter jet on course to becoming ‘one of history’s biggest white elephants’ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 38761.html For a comparison with the Rafale's costs,the report says that the JSF,F-35B STOVL version for the UK's carriers will ...
by arthuro
10 Apr 2015 20:35
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014
Replies: 3963
Views: 156455

Re: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014

So selling civilian stuff to China (the second largest economy) should be forbiden "dude" ? This should be an excuse for Russia to sell directly its best military technology ? You know China can also purchase american helicopters and swap engines...That's my last post on this topic. Anothe...
by arthuro
10 Apr 2015 20:19
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014
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Views: 156455

Re: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014

" The equipment is a large, perforated steel plate that gives purchase to a grappling hook sent out by the helicopter, which can then use the guideline to draw itself down to the deck. " Impressive technology sold to China Karan M which must be worth a SU35 or an S400 battery in your flawe...
by arthuro
10 Apr 2015 19:53
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014
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Re: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014

Karan M, You are just making a fool of your self. bringing a civilian helicopter and 70's era miliray deals won't make your point. -Fact is Russia is currently trying to sell its best military technology to China. -Fact is France is in no commercial campain to sell any kind of military hardware to C...
by arthuro
10 Apr 2015 19:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014
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Views: 156455

Re: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014

The proponent of russian aircrafts on this forum is beyhond my understanding knowing the russians are seeking to sell SU-35 to China (and S400). They are selling their best tech to China and many advocate for more SU30 ? No wonder IAF is willing to depart from an all Russian air fleet. If france co...
by arthuro
10 Apr 2015 18:49
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014
Replies: 3963
Views: 156455

Re: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014

The proponent of russian aircrafts on this forum is beyhond my understanding knowing the russians are seeking to sell SU-35 to China (and S400). They are selling their best tech to China and many advocate for more SU30 ? No wonder IAF is willing to depart from an all Russian air fleet.
by arthuro
10 Apr 2015 17:57
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014
Replies: 3963
Views: 156455

Re: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014

India, France May Seek Compromise on Rafale Fighter Purchase PARIS -- Dassault Aviation stock was up almost 4% Friday morning on reports that New Delhi is pressing a compromise in a three-year-old deal to purchase Rafale combat jets, one that would see India spend several billion euros to purchase ...
by arthuro
10 Apr 2015 17:56
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014
Replies: 3963
Views: 156455

Re: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014

https://twitter.com/livefist Sources: Deal for 63 Rafale jets Govt-to-Govt. "MoD's view of earlier MMRCA talks was they were leading to deal that's 'totally unviable'." Sources: Deal for 63 Rafales likely to be part of a composite agreement. MoU to be signed between PM @NarendraModi & ...

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