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by sarabpal.s
07 Jan 2013 22:07
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3883
Views: 503578

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

<SNIP> What has gone wrong in the last 13 months? Time does not permit me to expand but the problem is not Pinaka system but rockets thereof. The QC issue is with rockets manufactured by OFB. Pinaka is BTW manufactured by private players. Can't we bring the Ammunition factory directly under Army su...
by sarabpal.s
05 Jan 2013 15:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- Jan 10 2012
Replies: 4239
Views: 206785

Re: Indian Military Aviation- Jan 10 2012

EH 101 spotted flying in delhi.
IMHO they become operational from palam airport
by sarabpal.s
05 Jan 2013 09:25
Forum: Military Scenarios Archive
Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XII
Replies: 3420
Views: 655886

Re: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XII

usaf pilots claim that though in 1:1 or 2:2 engagements a lot of AFs have pilot cadres that can match them, in larger 4:x or 8:x type of engagements supported by awacs they are better because they get a lot of such practice in exercises like red flag and so on...there is always some usaf exercise g...
by sarabpal.s
02 Jan 2013 10:05
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Army: News and Discussions 15 Apr 2012
Replies: 3969
Views: 205532

Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 15 Apr 2012

Volta was sister company of Maz once.

well if they offer dedicated Telar than it will welcome decision. but I am optimistic and worry of MTCR
by sarabpal.s
02 Jan 2013 07:52
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

it is more about sensor and laser how effective you work as team Do you pause to read and think before you attack your keyboard to post one liners like above? How will the sensor on your tank and team work allow you to hit a target using the main tank gun when your tank projectile (HEAT/APFSDS) doe...
by sarabpal.s
01 Jan 2013 22:16
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

singha ji that long gone in GF1/2 where M1 takes shot well behind 4km against Iraqi T72.just goggle it That was possible because there was 4 km of clear area to take the shot - try finding clear that much clear area without obstruction in India. it is more about sensor and laser how effective you w...
by sarabpal.s
01 Jan 2013 21:54
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

but in reality, most engagements will happen in the 1-2km band or sometimes even closer so the FICV better avoid the MBT and not take its mythical capabilities too literally. and the FICV is not even needed for that. if IA invests properly in Namica and Nag, we can have this specialized vehicle rai...
by sarabpal.s
31 Dec 2012 21:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

What you all think but BMP2 is the part our army and will be till Decade or two.

Wheeled IFV/ICV should be the priority as of now.

We need more logistic trucks or taxis to keep the paces with strike corp. Imho Strike corp desert sector dire need of wheeled IFV/ICV.
by sarabpal.s
30 Dec 2012 20:09
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

Singha wrote:I do not disagree with you that BMP2 is cheap and stealthy (or that it has good firepower for its size..its cannon is a respectable weapon).

but we right now producing it and keep doing it long till FICV materialize (Post 2016) so why not upgraded it with add on Armour and AGL Modern ATGM
by sarabpal.s
30 Dec 2012 20:05
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

I do not disagree with you that BMP2 is cheap and stealthy (or that it has good firepower for its size..its cannon is a respectable weapon). but clearly the IA sees the FICV as a entirely new project . I am not aware if any of the 4 bids that went in featured a heavily upgraded bmp2 or not. now if ...
by sarabpal.s
30 Dec 2012 19:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

here again you are trying to pass off your own opinion as the gospel truth. the US is fully prepared to fight a armour war in europe with bradleys and m113's if you hadnt been sleeping last two-three decades....post-war occupation of territory always entails long patrols. so was germany with the ma...
by sarabpal.s
30 Dec 2012 19:02
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

sum wrote:
See dear I also dont understand why you are such a blind and strong bmp2 supporter. do you work for ofb or a bmp2 parts suppliers?

:D



Tell me what is ++ point for M-series or Stryker another than US pressure and Some poster as above is really lobbying for US.
by sarabpal.s
30 Dec 2012 15:56
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

nice interior for a long AC ride, with mine protected seat suspension from ceiling vs the pinjra of bmp2-anything http://www.army-technology.com/projects/pandurii/pandurii6.html http://www.army-technology.com/projects/ascod/ascod15.html the general fit n finish, packaging and surgical neatness of t...
by sarabpal.s
30 Dec 2012 12:07
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

The second bae offering looks like a new gen m113 . Should be cheap and less complex. But will need cannon armed icv for escort. Singh ji did you notice that majority of IFV/ICV is tracked. but right now India urgently required wheeled one. none of the company offering or testing wheeled IFV/ICV( T...
by sarabpal.s
30 Dec 2012 09:32
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

look like Deeply modified BMP2 with same turret.
by sarabpal.s
29 Dec 2012 21:08
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

Sir, That article talks about "Wheels or Tracks? On the 'Lightness' of Military Expeditions". So what is your point, why do you want us to read it? AS far as i see we cant use M113 type whatever singha ji called because tracked vehicles need repair in shorter miles than the wheeled so BMP...
by sarabpal.s
29 Dec 2012 20:00
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

from defexpo 2012, here is what Tata and their foreign partner(who?) proposed as the wheeled and tracked FICV it looks like a manner turret, unlike the Puma unmanned turret http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SqGCl2jRv8M/T3l4NHO4YyI/AAAAAAAABDI/2bHV5fmXQAo/s1600/DSC01697.JPG http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-T6zKC6K...
by sarabpal.s
29 Dec 2012 19:53
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

http://www.comw.org/pda/0007wheels.html Interesting read Sorry posted in full IF Mod want they can curtailed it Quite Old but yet cover quite lot Most armies with fighting experience in World War II drew the lesson that in future ground combat the hard currency of power would be medium to heavy tan...
by sarabpal.s
29 Dec 2012 12:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

:mrgreen: sir aap toh jasbaati ho gaye. fear not, I am all in favour of a more gen-next vehicle if we can afford it and make it locally. he M113 I already mentioned is a rickshaw => rickshaw is faster and more efficient than walking if no other mode of transport is available. plus fare is cheap 8) ...
by sarabpal.s
29 Dec 2012 08:02
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

Singha wrote:+1. the BMP2 is simply too outdated concept, just as the T90 no matter how you change it is outdated as a platform.
we are talking of a vehicle that needs to serve 2020 to 2050.

please explain why bmp is outdated not like your m series tin can
by sarabpal.s
28 Dec 2012 20:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA News and Discussions
Replies: 4264
Views: 214603

Re: LCA News and Discussions

Yes only then Tejas becomes a fighter My dear Adhitya I only quote you because you are comment #1 on page 37 Tejas is not going to become a fighter but a storm. A storm in which all future cyclones and typhoons will be born. We are going to mature all the principles of flight under this program. Ma...
by sarabpal.s
27 Dec 2012 22:07
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
Replies: 6593
Views: 727248

Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011

China's J-20 & J-15 Fighter Aircrafts Spotted Sitting Alongside Each Other On The Tarmac http://www.aame.in/2012/12/china-j-20-j-15-fighter-aircrafts.html http://lh5.ggpht.com/-9inDQG-xjN0/UNn29hiB8EI/AAAAAAAAHjg/dEZyV5fMD4g/China-J-15-J-20-Aircraft-Xian-Aircraft-Company-RESIZE%25255B4%25255D.j...
by sarabpal.s
27 Dec 2012 19:53
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

compare the extra room and height inside the M3 bradley (2-3 troops + addl TOW reloads) and the M2 bradley (6-7 troops) vs the cramped Pinjra which is the BMP2. http://data.primeportal.net/apc/russ/M2/23270027.jpg http://aclark79.smugmug.com/photos/448200840_EpNuL-O.jpg IA has already played with S...
by sarabpal.s
27 Dec 2012 07:49
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3883
Views: 503578

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

Desi Bofors gun passes the test JABALPUR: It is thumbs up finally to made in MP desi Bofors gun. The country cousin of the Swedish high caliber artillery gun has passed the final hurdle race in Proof and Experimental establishment (PXE) Balasore with flying colors on December 23. The performance of...
by sarabpal.s
27 Dec 2012 07:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

I think there are two things that are crucial for a IFV: a V shaped hull and a modern self protection system similar to the Trophy. V-shaped to deal with mines/IDEs. Am not too sure that any of the older designs will suffice. V shape hull is by product insurgency. it will increase the height of veh...
by sarabpal.s
26 Dec 2012 23:05
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

M113 interior is roomy and boxy http://www.smithconsultinggroup.net/images/inventory/M113/m113_interior_02_large.jpg BMP1/2 interior is actually two compartments with no movement possible between them. http://director.io/tanquesyblindados/articulos/epocaactual/bmp/BMP1%20interior%20www.tanksforsale...
by sarabpal.s
26 Dec 2012 20:51
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

Look,let's be serious.The vehicle should be suitable for the terrain first.If we examine the hotspots in recent times,most of them have been in desert arid conditions,like Iraq and Af-Pak. We in the subcontinent have apart from desert regions like Rajasthan, riverine plains like those of the Punjab...
by sarabpal.s
26 Dec 2012 20:45
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

Singha wrote:may I know which BMP2 variants OFB medak produces? methinks the Namica model is the starting point we want.

go goggle

I am not here to draw sword and you can go here to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordnance_Factory_Medak
by sarabpal.s
26 Dec 2012 17:46
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

M113 is a ready made soln needing nothing more. just bolt one of these to the top Why we can't bolt fancy item on BMP2 I think for a fee khan will be most willing to let us produce this rickshaw locally using perhaps one of our own truck engines. When we already producing BMP2 why go for new one th...
by sarabpal.s
25 Dec 2012 14:46
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

Imo explore a mix of three things ... Stallions with better bullet protection and some degree of mine protection, licensed production or outright buy of m113 ( esp for mountain and desert units ), and a turretless modified bmp2 people mover icv with room for additional 4 troops and the commander in...
by sarabpal.s
25 Dec 2012 13:46
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 4358
Views: 211409

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

in the end game it descends slightly and releases upto 6 astra sized AAMs and these fly in a grid pattern to maximise chances of atleast 1 or 2 picking up target on active radar and engaging. this also presents a much smaller target for defensive measures. in short the SM6 also works in this way - ...
by sarabpal.s
25 Dec 2012 13:16
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

what did I say only Fowler saar will see any sort of merit in that piece of garbage aka BMP 3 Ashok Leyland offer truck with protection from small arms in stallion trucks. not sure i understand your point are you saying that this makes it a viable substitute for wheeled AVs? No, But we cant move wh...
by sarabpal.s
25 Dec 2012 08:02
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

we (rohit, moi etc) are not talking of wheeled AVs for the BMP IFV role as much for the mechanisation aspect again presently we have trucks\lorries to transport troops anything AV can be better than trucks modern 8x8s can deal with almost high percentage of the areas tracked ones can also the cost ...
by sarabpal.s
24 Dec 2012 22:13
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

We should stick to BMP2 rather than plain fancy stryker or any other IFV stryker is worst design with high sleuth unstable platform and minimum fording capability(basic design) low power engine very big for transportation weight penalty 18.5tons+ 2.2 tons slate Armour. BMP2 base design 13.5 tons we ...
by sarabpal.s
24 Dec 2012 21:56
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

rapid dismounting BMP3 style :) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7572/cyp1282aq0bs.jpg and it has three separate round covers in front - because there's two guys seated beside the driver and they need to get out too! and in true WWI sponson mounted side gun style they get to fire their own MGs po...
by sarabpal.s
23 Dec 2012 23:38
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

^^Just one nitpick Stryker is neither cheap nor good IFV

I will post a pics one upgrade of BMP3 i think we can do it better with add on Armour now on BMP2.

Pics tomm. eve. gudnight
by sarabpal.s
23 Dec 2012 15:28
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

why would we need retire our BMP2?? IFCVs only purpose is bring wheeled infantry carrier "that's it" but government adding tracked wheeled just for common carrier but they quickly come to conclusion that whole IFCV program is to costly for FM, SO instead of focussing on whole project we s...
by sarabpal.s
23 Dec 2012 13:27
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Small Arms Thread
Replies: 4653
Views: 937197

Re: Small Arms Thread

I say we should actually use Chinese soldiers to man chinese weapons. Or what the hell, invite Chinese army to take care of our security, afthey all they are better and it would be more cost efficient. Been there. Done that. Bought that T-shirt. Chinese technicians man the Chinese CNC machines in H...
by sarabpal.s
23 Dec 2012 13:23
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Replies: 4311
Views: 211810

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012

i got better idea give DRDO or private players on IFV a timeline that they need to achieve certain levels in say 2 years if not BMP3 will enter Indian armed forces. until we give strict timelines like any other govt. employees they will waste ,time , money & leaving army without any IFV Even be...
by sarabpal.s
23 Dec 2012 11:53
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 705663

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

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