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by ss_roy
24 Feb 2009 03:19
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

Do not confuse wealth and money. The brits transfered money out of India, not wealth. They created wealth with that money. I hate to say it, but bankrolling the european industrial revolution with indian money, has ultimately lifted more indians out of a subsistence existence than any indian kingdom...
by ss_roy
19 Feb 2009 04:20
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

There are two answers to that question and I will give you the short answer right now. What is difference between money and wealth? Imagine that you were a maharaja or an emperor in an earlier age. You would have had lots of money (gold), however if you contracted smallpox (Louis XV), plague (Cyrus)...
by ss_roy
19 Feb 2009 02:07
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

Do not care about what the dying say.. they will be dead soon. Meanwhile, costless psy-pain mitigation op in full swing....paint 'em turd worlders as snake charmers and elephant carers onlee...as opposed to our lily white advanced conomies onlee totally sans such dirty work.... Conspiracy theories a...
by ss_roy
18 Feb 2009 09:07
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

We could have done well, if India had mediocre leaders and a population that did not buy into the western images of their abilities. Of course, we have leaders that are worse than incompetent and a population that mindlessly fawns over everything western (no critical thinking). I am curious as to wh...
by ss_roy
18 Feb 2009 09:02
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

No, the vast majority of these top execs either believe that they can continue playing the old game or they are scared s***tless.. I would like to think that some top executives have a very good idea as to how all this thing is going to be played out in the short term and are changing (or not changi...
by ss_roy
17 Feb 2009 21:09
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

The sad reality is that whites (especially europe, canada, australia and new zealand) have deluded themselves into believing that their peak influence was due to their ability, when it was really due to a combination of chance events and conditions in human history. They have no real future (bad dem...
by ss_roy
17 Feb 2009 15:09
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

The west has realize that falsifying or interpreting history to project that idea does not make it true. Maybe they should look up the concept of "hubris". Most of these morons do not realize that the true dawn of western science was in macedonian egypt and the early roman empire, and was ...
by ss_roy
15 Feb 2009 07:37
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

This is a good example of what I was just talking about. In a fiat currency based world, debt does not matter. What matters is the willingness and ability to consume rather than save money. The willingness and ability to consume is linked to demographic profiles and psychology, not foreign reserves....
by ss_roy
15 Feb 2009 07:30
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

There is no secret recipe for thinking objectively. Growing up in India is no excuse for not thinking objectively, especially if you live in a reasonably affluent urban environment. There is a difference between fawning over the west and thinking like the smarter ones in the west. It boils down to a...
by ss_roy
14 Feb 2009 22:08
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

Do you believe that lie? Just because an insignificant country can hide its shit under overt denial does not mean that it is true. If swiss, german and french banks could not escape losses, why will canadian banks escape them? Remember that as long as you do not accept losses via accounting, there a...
by ss_roy
14 Feb 2009 00:50
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

I have been reading this thread and one recurrent themes continues to bother me. 1. Why do you care about what the "west" thinks of you? They are dying, their lead is gone and even their illusory preeminence is fading.. treat them them as you would treat a dying cantekerous person.. preten...
by ss_roy
07 Feb 2009 03:49
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

A bit OT but somewhat relevant to the current direction of this thread... 1. Look at the world objectively. It is not pretty, but it is easier to understand. 2. Don't do things based on tradition. Do them because they are rational and justifiable. 3. Do not take c**p from others. Remember that the p...
by ss_roy
07 Feb 2009 03:34
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

Why do you listen to them? Why do you treat them as authority figures? Ignore them.. and look at the world objectively! I have to say that one way to improve indian self confidence would be to hang everyone (in india) who justifies things based on 'spirituality' and 'tradition'. The vast majority of...
by ss_roy
06 Feb 2009 04:02
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

History repeats till it does not (underlying circumstances change beyond system tolerances). 3] would cause social problems of the likes that you have not seen before. 4] would be catastrophic to almost everyone and the Federal reserve knows that. However, if the resolve the CDS and other financial ...
by ss_roy
05 Feb 2009 23:28
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

Don't worry.. the hubris of the chinese and white countries is enough to make sure that they end up choking each other. Hubris is what ultimately destroys people and nations, from the dawn of civilization to the end of time. we need to make deft moves to widen the cleavage between chinese ambition a...
by ss_roy
05 Feb 2009 20:10
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

They cannot get out of the problems caused by pension obligations, national debt and personal debt even if they default on soverign debt. It would, infact, make it worser as their existence is based on the ability to borrow from the rest of the world. However, I was thinking that US will try to solv...
by ss_roy
05 Feb 2009 19:35
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

An interesting and relevant blog (wrt asian economies)

http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/
by ss_roy
05 Feb 2009 18:59
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

They are unlikely to default in a conventional way.. think debt monetization and backroom agreements for debt "adjustment". Outright default is the last option. But they will have to do something about the debt, as it cannot be paid back! India can benefit from this situation by buying agr...
by ss_roy
05 Feb 2009 12:41
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

Sorry to disappoint you, but China cannot be paid of without a combination of sovereign default + loan "readjustments" + inflation. India on the other hand... can be paid off.. ---------------------------------------- Following the Asian crisis, East Asian countries built up huge reserves ...
by ss_roy
05 Feb 2009 04:55
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

I took a little hiatus from this thread because I was tired of arguing with people who think that everything in the west is good and everything in India is bad (and always will be bad). The reality is much more complicated. One should not argue with fools as the audience might not be able to tell th...
by ss_roy
05 Feb 2009 02:15
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

Nice to see that reality is catching up with my predictions.. but wait.. the ride has only just begun.
by ss_roy
02 Feb 2009 02:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missile Technology Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 25255

Re: Indian Missile Technology Discussion

Why are we making such a big deal of one failure? Why are indians obsessed with avoiding failures?

Innovation will always result in failures... as long as we learn something and avoid it the next time around, it is not a failure.
by ss_roy
27 Jan 2009 06:10
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 519
Views: 38551

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

It is important to understand why we are in our current situation. Can you take the above Rona-Dhona [R&Dh (tm)] to the whine thread? Above is nothing but 'ing Hypergolic launchers can left for upto 6 months (with monitoring for leaks) at room temperature without any effect on launch reliability...
by ss_roy
25 Jan 2009 05:52
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

There are many things I could say about this particular reply, use your imagination.. Hypergolics have the advantage of reliability and storability along with a fairly decent mass fraction. It's fuels do not ignite in the air like H2 and RP-1. There is a reason that Russia and the USA developed ICBM...
by ss_roy
22 Jan 2009 09:32
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

Ok here is another idea.. Some of you may know that the space shuttle as it exists today is quite different from the original concept. The original concept was a much smaller design without large main engines, that weighed about 11-20 tons. It had the a smaller crew (1-5) but landed like a glider. I...
by ss_roy
22 Jan 2009 09:15
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

At the risk of reiterating.. The main reason behind my supported of further optimization of the GSLV-1/2 is very simple. You can create a much more reliable and cheaper version of the Long March-2 (LEO and GTO capacity) for a fraction of the price of building a new system, not to mention using parts...
by ss_roy
20 Jan 2009 04:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

An interesting youtube compilation of launch disasters. I have to say that India has done OK so far.. Maybe ISRO should play this clip whenever "english language media" critics question the engineering competence of indian scientists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNsJUmFrUCA ISRO could u...
by ss_roy
19 Jan 2009 09:08
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

Solids and hypergolics are the cheapest, unless you live in the USA (hypergolics and environmental laws) Proton, Titan-2, Titan-3/4, almost all Chinese launchers- excellent reliability. RP-1/LOX is quite cheap and easy [Fuel, facility and engines]- Soyuz, Zenit, Delta 2, Atlas 5 Launcher LH2/LOX is ...
by ss_roy
19 Jan 2009 08:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

Just use this SRB as the core stage of a newer GSLV- might want to improve the burn time to 135-137 s instead of 132 s. ________________ ARIANE 5 BOOSTER Designation: P230 Length: 31.16 m Diameter: 3.05 m Empty mass: each 40,000 kg Propellant: PCA + HTPB + aluminum solid Propellant mass: each 237,70...
by ss_roy
19 Jan 2009 04:44
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

Arun, I will post the detailed calculations later. Let me give you an idea about my concept though Stage 1= 4 Vikas Engines (135-140s) + 1 SRB (135-140s) The biggest problem with the current GSLV setup is that the SRB burns for a shorter time (107-109s) than the Vikas Engines (160 and now 140s), cre...
by ss_roy
18 Jan 2009 23:07
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

For the GSLV-1, that is fairly easy.. If the solid motor burnt for say 135-140 seconds (doable) and the Vikas Engines in the first stage were also set for 135-140 seconds- there would be no dead weight! You could then increase the fuel loading of the second stage by 10-15 tons and thereby increase b...
by ss_roy
18 Jan 2009 06:52
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

I am sorry to say that this response is factually incorrect. Compare GSLV-3 with Titan-3 (I have in previous posts on this thread). Pay close attention to the fuels used, gross weights, mass fractions/ thrusts/ specific impulses. If the GSLV-3 cannot better Titan-3, we have a problem! PS- Almost all...
by ss_roy
05 Jan 2009 12:19
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

The first operational ion thrusters were used by the soviet space program in the 1950s/ early 1960s. The most common type of ion thrusters are low thrust/ high Isp types. They are good for maintaining/ changing orbits or gently accelerating spacecraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_engines An oth...
by ss_roy
05 Jan 2009 07:53
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

Yes, and I also think that they should have better collaborations with other groups such as those involved in atomic energy, non-space related basic and applied physics, semiconductor technology etc. I hope that people can put aside their departmental fiefdoms in the interest of a better future for ...
by ss_roy
05 Jan 2009 07:26
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

Thank god!! I thought it would take them "forever and a day". The problem with ISRO has always been in their misguided attempts at restricting themselves into doing useful but mediocre 'aam aadmi' stuff (communications/imaging satellites). Ideally they should do the mediocre (but profitabl...
by ss_roy
05 Jan 2009 07:10
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

Hmm.. I think you are not getting my drift. The problems with institutions in India is not the quality of most people who work in them, which is actually very high. The problems stem from the way they are utilized.. you can have the best, most motivated people and they can still achieve nothing beca...
by ss_roy
04 Jan 2009 11:08
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

I think India should build a better falcon-9 type expendable launcher. It would be cheap to build and could put a decent amount in LEO and GTO orbits. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/02/falcon_9/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_9 I think a falcon-9 heavy could put a soyuz size space vehicle...
by ss_roy
04 Jan 2009 08:48
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

I have still not understood the fascination with an RLV. The reality is that while an RLV can be built, its real operating costs are going to be much more than using a disposable rocket launcher. The biggest and unappreciated cost of an RLV arises from two factors- 1] A reusable spacecraft has to be...
by ss_roy
31 Dec 2008 17:04
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program Discussion
Replies: 518
Views: 28023

Re: Indian Space Program Discussion

A quick question/idea.. Since ISRO is already developing the S200 solid stage and an upgraded Vikas engine for the GSLV-3, what about creating a 0.5 GSLV-3 1st stage (S200 Solid) 110 seconds burn 2nd stage (55 ton fuel vikas) 240 second burn. 3rd stage hypergolic (LEO payload) or cryogenic (GTO miss...
by ss_roy
14 Dec 2008 12:54
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 883684

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

Vina, That is precisely what I am talking about. When I read Taleb's first book (Fooled by Randomness) in 2002, I immediately saw that he was saying out aloud, what I had come to realize a few years ago. Of course it took the "grey swan" of the market meltdown for Taleb to become a celebri...

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