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by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:15
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

quote="Kanson" quote All this pain and expense had to be borne because of the DRDO- designed Pinaka system, which is in any case inferior to the Russian product. This gentleman can't stop licking drdo wherever he lay his eggs. Oh..any case inferior to Russian product? which product? Such ...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

All this pain and expense had to be borne because of the DRDO- designed Pinaka system, which is in any case inferior to the Russian product. This gentleman can't stop licking drdo wherever he lay his eggs. Oh..any case inferior to Russian product? which product? Such is the knowledge ...He should h...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:10
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Great article I read today How can Army win wars with outdated artillery Manoj Joshi January 23, 2009 Comment Print Email A A A Share Bofors guns in a row, belching fire at Tiger Hill remain one of the iconic pictures of the 1999 Kargil War. Yet it was not known at the time that India had to fly in...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:08
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

quote="Rahul M" actually they had made a very simple design 155mm gun in early 90's which was well liked by IA. unfortunately at around the same time arjun's suspension gave lots of trouble and reliability of DRDO's designs came under the scanner. This is a crazy thought, but if such a pr...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:04
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

actually they had made a very simple design 155mm gun in early 90's which was well liked by IA. unfortunately at around the same time arjun's suspension gave lots of trouble and reliability of DRDO's designs came under the scanner. This is a crazy thought, but if such a program existed, could it be...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:03
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Kongress won't buy Bofors guns because it's leadership was accused of accepting bribes from Bofors. BJP govt can't buy Bofors because it accused Kongress of taking bribe from Bofors. IA would not buy anything else but Boforse because it is the only gun that meets its requirements. :roll: Net result...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:02
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

And if they buy any other gun they will be accused of scam. And DRDO cant make guns. The last one they made was the 105mm which weighed a tonne or two so its good for forts or buruzs. Still same conclusion as above. actually they had made a very simple design 155mm gun in early 90's which was well ...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:01
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Kuma_I No more Heavy Guns for India. Out of 410 that were initially purchased IIRC only half are in working conditions. Remember, every rupee spent on buying heavy gun, 5 Rs have to be spent on bribes, another 5Rs for RFC, RFP, Delay For Ever, ReInvent the Wheel, another 2Rs to pacify the Islamic U...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:01
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Kumar_I wrote:Do we have Denel D6, I remember India wanted to buy some 200 of D6 D5s. Didn't heard anything about it.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:00
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Views: 534322

Re: Indian Artillery

Kongress won't buy Bofors guns because it's leadership was accused of accepting bribes from Bofors. BJP govt can't buy Bofors because it accused Kongress of taking bribe from Bofors. IA would not buy anything else but Boforse because it is the only gun that meets its requirements. :roll: Net result...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

ramana wrote:And if they buy any other gun they will be accused of scam. And DRDO cant make guns. The last one they made was the 105mm which weighed a tonne or two so its good for forts or buruzs.
Still same conclusion as above.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:58
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Views: 534322

Re: Indian Artillery

Kongress won't buy Bofors guns because it's leadership was accused of accepting bribes from Bofors. BJP govt can't buy Bofors because it accused Kongress of taking bribe from Bofors. IA would not buy anything else but Boforse because it is the only gun that meets its requirements. :roll: Net result...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:57
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Views: 534322

Re: Indian Artillery

Govt said it was single vendor situation when Bofors was the best towed gun in last series of trials. what is this single vendor situation BTW?, where were multiple vendors when Army was purchasing T-90s, Smerch MLRS. why no bidding, no short listing was done for them. And with SP guns. Govt blackl...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:56
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Views: 534322

Re: Indian Artillery

Indian army tested three towed for as many as four years, from 2002 to 2006 only to restart them again in 2009. isn't four years a bit too long. Is there no sense of urgency or panic that there is not a single SP Artillery inservice? when Pakistan inducted T-80, Indian army inducted T-90 quite imme...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:56
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

155 mm M-46 upgrade at Know Your Army exhibition in Jalandhar: http://flickr.com/photos/gopal1035/3196408425/sizes/o/in/dateposted/ compared to regular M-46: http://flickr.com/photos/gopal1035/3198515624/sizes/l/in/dateposted/ Looks like the upgraded M-46 has a new pneumatic ram behind the breech t...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:55
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 534322

Re: Indian Artillery

Indian army tested three towed for as many as four years, from 2002 to 2006 only to restart them again in 2009. isn't four years a bit too long. Is there no sense of urgency or panic that there is not a single SP Artillery inservice? when Pakistan inducted T-80, Indian army inducted T-90 quite imme...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:54
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Views: 534322

Re: Indian Artillery

Rahul M wrote:it's an ongoing project called pinaka-2 by some.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinaka_Mul ... ture_Plans
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:54
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Views: 534322

Re: Indian Artillery

The developers have announced the creation of a new rocket to increase up to 120km range and weighing up to 250kg of the head. The new shells have increased speed (up to M = 4.7 at an altitude of 40km) and dvuhrezhimnym equipped with a jet engine, providing a rapid acceleration of a shell in the in...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:53
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Aditya G wrote:155 mm M-46 upgrade at Know Your Army exhibition in Jalandhar:
http://flickr.com/photos/gopal1035/3196 ... ateposted/

compared to regular M-46:
http://flickr.com/photos/gopal1035/3198 ... ateposted/
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:52
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Regarding the induction of new artillery pieces, both self propelled and towed, have we made any headway in their induction. Because last what i heard is that agreement with Denel is bogged because of corruption case. Do you guys have any information on fresh induction of artillery pieces specially...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:51
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

By the look of the numbers of towed 155mm guns, we're on our way to completely eliminating the 105mm calibre in the IA,save for the Moutain Divisions. And even here, post the induction of light 155mm in the strike elements, the calibre may percolate to holding formations also. Pukes are for sure go...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:50
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Future Weapons: The M777 Howitzer 4QetJQjhPAI Speaking of Future Weapons: The Bofors Archer (or BAe Archer maybe sounds better in Indian politicians ears) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4jnUXUzV2c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA1j7mJbgDU Edit: (even if I don´t care much about that Discovery show)
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:50
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

durgesh wrote:Future Weapons: The M777 Howitzer
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:49
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Vivek K wrote:The arty procurement or lack of it for the last decade is another example of our failure in making strategic decisions early. Is the 2nd best gun better than the best gun that was purchased 20 years later?
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:47
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

The last component of the overall contract will involve the acquisition of 140 air-mobile, ultra-light howitzers for around Rs2,900 crore. These ultra-light guns will make it possible for the Army to deploy them in forward, inaccessible areas at short notice with the help of helicopters. Wasnt the ...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:46
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

ndian Army to start artillery evaluation trials This report has some useful details. New Delhi: The Indian Army is all set to commence a test programme for artillery guns in various versions after receiving fresh bids from foreign companies. The eventual order for a variety of towed, self-propelled...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:44
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

In a development that would push the Indian Army’s decade-old modernization plan of its artillery, overseas vendors have submitted bids for 180 155mm/52 caliber towed and light howitzers and the trials are expected to commence in February or March, a senior official said Tuesday. :rotfl: Expect to ...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

ajay_ijn wrote:No. of ultra light guns is 140. but no. of Towed & SP Guns are not exactly known.

trials of three towed guns (denel, bofors, soltam) began in 2001 and ended in 2006. So will Army again test these guns for 6 years?
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Bids received for towed, light howitzers; trials in February New Delhi, Jan 13 (IANS) In a development that would push the Indian Army’s decade-old modernization plan of its artillery, overseas vendors have submitted bids for 180 155mm/52 caliber towed and light howitzers and the trials are expecte...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:41
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

If we have something like IFG and LFG then why have we made a SP howitzer(however 'defected') on our own?We have Arjun/BMP II and the IFG gun-why no match made? IFG and LFG are 105mm guns, while the Requirement for the SP howitzer seems to be for 155mm. The most logical step would be to license-pro...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:41
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Views: 534322

Re: Indian Artillery

quote="nikhil_p"Check this out... A 100 Bhims on order...Typo or just BBS... products developed BHIM - T6 A state-of-the-art 155mm Self Propelled gun named BHIM has been developed by CVRDE by integrating the T6 turret of M/S LIW, South Africa onto the Arjun derivative chassis system. Afte...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:39
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Check this out... A 100 Bhims on order...Typo or just BBS... products developed BHIM - T6 A state-of-the-art 155mm Self Propelled gun named BHIM has been developed by CVRDE by integrating the T6 turret of M/S LIW, South Africa onto the Arjun derivative chassis system. After successful field trials,...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:38
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

X-posting from Indian Army thread hardly. arty acquisition is in a mess. while the soltam conversion would give some much needed boost, the armoured formations desperately need SP arty. AFAIK, with the retirement of the abott, IA is w/o any SP tube artillery. They need to decide on the SP and towed...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:36
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Vikram_S wrote:see rohit post

1 regiment = 3 battery --> each battery has 6 launcher
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:36
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

satya wrote:Can someone pls clarify Smerch in battery role will have 4 /6/8 launchers ?
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:35
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Vikram_S wrote:
Singha wrote:tv was showing a testfire of smerch in Raj desert. scared the crap out of me - the rockets are big as a house. a group of 6 TELs unloading all their tubes will take out a small town.


http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=cqdajSyyXlk

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=2GRSL1Ya5-w

:lol:
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:34
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Singha wrote:tv was showing a testfire of smerch in Raj desert. scared the crap out of me - the rockets are big as a house. a group of 6 TELs unloading all their tubes will take out a small town.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:33
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Vikram_S: I have not followed the SMERCH induction thing. But as per BR page, the total order was for 62 units. Which makes for 3 regimets and 8 additional launchers. Only guess can be that some of the additional units will be for Trg role but this is more of a guess. It is important to understand ...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:33
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

Vikram_S wrote:rohit

why is the army buying 28 launchers in follow on order? (if 18 is one regiment)

is it going to be 3 regiment (+ 10 spare launcher)
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 16:31
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Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Indian Artillery

rohitvats wrote:Vikram_S: Each Rocket Regiment = 3 Batteries @ 6 systems each.
Therefore, 36 units = 2 regiments.

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