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by Ramesh
23 Feb 2009 21:45
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
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Re: Artillery Discussion Thread.

Artillery modernisation plan, from TOI about a month old. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2700377.cms Though Gen Kapoor did not get into specifics, sources said the Army was going in for 140 ultra-light howitzers for around Rs 2,900 crore, 400 towed guns for Rs 4,000 crore and 180 whe...
by Ramesh
09 Feb 2009 20:37
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread.

Sir, Very few discussion that takes place on artillery and when it happens, the chain of discussion related to armour is broken. Hence, this request was made in the site suggestion thread. Darwin's law will take over in few weeks, but at the end of it there will remain a pure armour thread. Regards ...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 19:57
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread.

Thank You.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:52
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: BR Forums Feedback
Replies: 1566
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Re: Site Suggestions & Forum Feedback

Rahul,
I have x-posted all artillery related posts from armour and artillery thread to artillery thread.
You can rename it as armour thread. Indian artillery thread can also be renamed as Artillery thread.
Regards,
Thank you.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:48
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Rohitvats, that's correct. Thing about the waste - a full regiment commanded by a Colonel with 12 mortars. Ray Sahib, two new mortar types with different range profiles are entering production. The 120mm and the 81mm we use at present are based on Brandt designs. The follow on designs are based on ...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:47
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

rohitvats wrote:@Sanjay: The Light Regiments had/have(?) two batteries of 6 guns each.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:47
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

is there widespread use of mortars fixed inside BMP chassis as a cheap form of SP mobile artillery for close infantry support ? what would be the pros and cons of this approach vs using the 105mm truck mounted concept (Tata power showed a prototype iirc) except range? there are even bomblet and sen...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:46
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

is there widespread use of mortars fixed inside BMP chassis as a cheap form of SP mobile artillery for close infantry support ? what would be the pros and cons of this approach vs using the 105mm truck mounted concept (Tata power showed a prototype iirc) except range? there are even bomblet and sen...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:45
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Ray Sahib, thanks for the offer. The Light Regiments - as artillery regiments - has 12 120mm mortars apiece didn't they and at one time there were about 40 of them. Subseqently - in the 1990s - they were sort of removed from the ORBAT of the infantry divisions artillery brigades. There was some sug...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:44
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Even though Artillery is not Small Arms, since the issue was raised, I will clarify. The Arty Bde, which is a part of the Div, has three Field Regiments and one Medium Regiment. Each Regiment has three Batteries and each battery has two troops and each troop has 3 guns. Brigades do not have arty in...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:44
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Ray Sahib, thanks for the offer. The Light Regiments - as artillery regiments - has 12 120mm mortars apiece didn't they and at one time there were about 40 of them. Subseqently - in the 1990s - they were sort of removed from the ORBAT of the infantry divisions artillery brigades. There was some sug...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Shankar wrote:Ray C sir

what is the composition of typical indian arty brigade

like how many guns
and do all brigades have MBRL attached ?
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:42
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

I have never been able to figure out anything regarding those light regiments. Apparently the BSF has hundreds of 120mm mortars just lying around and God knows how the army deploys them now. I wish I could answer the questions you ask - but I want to know the answers too. What exactly you want to k...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:41
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

One big problem with those type of guns is the metallurgy of the barrels- metal alloys and heat treatment. Its one thing to make a few pieces and another to make a lot to equip armies. All that needs world class metallurgy facilities on production scale. The Army should get of its high horse and ma...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

A query? A question for tech experts here: How difficult is it to develop terminally guided artillery shells like krasnopol http://www.kbptula.ru/eng/kuw/krasn.htm locally? Is is technically feasible and financially viable to put a ring laser gyro in this kind of system? Also since the import of ar...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Sanjay wrote:I have never been able to figure out anything regarding those light regiments. Apparently the BSF has hundreds of 120mm mortars just lying around and God knows how the army deploys them now. I wish I could answer the questions you ask - but I want to know the answers too.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:39
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Regiment Nomenclature is very dangerous. There were SP units using M-46 towed weapons. The 105mm regiments converted I believe retained their nomenclature as field units. The light regiments 120mm were removed from Indian ORBATs at one time - regiments were re-designated batteries and attached on a...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:38
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Regiment Nomenclature is very dangerous. There were SP units using M-46 towed weapons. The 105mm regiments converted I believe retained their nomenclature as field units. The light regiments 120mm were removed from Indian ORBATs at one time - regiments were re-designated batteries and attached on a...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:36
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

RahulM, I think you are correct about the option not being exercised. However, we don't know for sure. I mean who knew that we switched over from the AM-50s to a new Soltam 120mm mortar until some article or the other appeared after an OFB design was rejected. The stocks of M-46 are very large at o...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:35
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

namit, you are late by about 5 years in your information and of course if you take DDM to be the ultimate guide please stick with it. don't bother us with that drivel. what exactly is the point of your posts, may I know ? sanjay, you are right there exists some confusion about the m-46 numbers and ...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:34
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

RahulM, the army may have actually purchased over 1300 more M-46 after the initial 550 - 1800 may not be so far off including reserve stocks. Estimate 60+ 130mm M-46 regiments exist at present plus 20 or so upgunned to 155 (about 180-200). There is an option to upgrade an additional 20 regiments un...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:33
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

sum, not all m-46's have been converted to 155mm. that number is still very low AFAIK. and not all will be converted. so, DDM is correct in this instant. also isn't IA's holding of m-46 is ~ 1300 and not 1800 ? nitinrastogi, plz that report is from plagarist and professional liar prasun sengupta wh...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:32
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

sum, not all m-46's have been converted to 155mm. that number is still very low AFAIK. and not all will be converted. so, DDM is correct in this instant. also isn't IA's holding of m-46 is ~ 1300 and not 1800 ? nitinrastogi, plz that report is from plagarist and professional liar prasun sengupta wh...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:31
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

quote="Anabhaya"]Sanjay - yessir you're right! http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010928/main5.htm The upgradation of the 1800-odd 130 mm guns to the level of Bofors guns will enhance manifold the firepower of the Artillery, which along with the Infantry Regiment was instrumental in evict...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:30
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

There are certain advantages of 155mm over 130mm M-46 like the tnt content and the variety of ammunition that can be fired. Aux power is required to shoot and scoot esp with weapon locating radars appearing in the neigbourhood. Rate of fire with upgraded M-46 is less and there are certain other iss...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:29
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

ramana wrote:Do they have the ammo for such a large upgrade? Also why does one need same standard for mtns and the palins? The aux power is needed to negotiate hairpin bends in the mtns. The Bofors type can be used for mtns exclusively and the upgraded M-46s elsewhere.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:28
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Sanjay - yessir you're right! http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010928/main5.htm The upgradation of the 1800-odd 130 mm guns to the level of Bofors guns will enhance manifold the firepower of the Artillery, which along with the Infantry Regiment was instrumental in evicting Pakistani regular soldi...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:27
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Sanjay wrote:This time Wiki is dead wrong. 550 were inducted in the initial procurement period. When no more 155s were coming the IA moved to standardize on the 130 in the interim and substantial second hand purchases were made. The whole process was documented in JDW in the early 1990s and the Asian Age.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:27
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Anabhaya wrote:Wiki lists no more than 550 pieces.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:26
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Sanjay wrote:
One other thing - India has a lot of M-46 pieces around. There were some very substantial purchases of M-46 guns in the early to mid-1990s with some suggesting that up to 1300 were procured.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Rahul M wrote:anand, I second baljeet.
please search up a bit in the older pages of this thread.
googling is highly encouraged, spoon feeding is not ! :wink:
regards.

added later : and kindly do not highlight all your post with boldface/big fonts etc.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:24
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Baljeet wrote:
anand rathore wrote:can anyone give the list of possible contenders in 155 mm competition and qualities detail of them? :?: :?:

Why is that every trainee that joins, wants other members to work for them. Anand, do your own research, enlighten us all. :P
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:23
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

anand rathore wrote:can anyone give the list of possible contenders in 155 mm competition and qualities detail of them? :?: :?:
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:22
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Rather than go for what the glossiest brochures say, it may make sense to produce a large number of OFB M-46 155mm upgrades to fulfill towed artillery requirements. What is the difficulty in doing this ? 1. The number of M-46 available is less. 2. There are certain other issues like: (a) Rate of fi...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Rahul M wrote:there was a competition long back, there was even a third competitor at some stage IIRC.
soltam was chosen in the end, they probably had some prior experience in such things.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:20
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

ramdas wrote:Is the OFB upgrade notup to the mark ?
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:20
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Rahul M wrote:soltam one.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:19
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

It looks like the locally made T-90 variants are also going to have a version of the Kanchan Armor. Also, I read some months back that the Russkies didnt do the ToT for the main gun, which also had to be developed locally. If we go ahead and reverse engineer the Kaktus ERA, we can emulate the Chine...
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

sum wrote:
The best thing for using Arjun will be to mount a 155mm gun with modifications to Arjun Chassis. It may be asking for too much.

IIRC, we tried even that with the Bhim but the Kangress/Renuka Choudary nixed it. Guess, some people( tanks) are just born unlucky.
by Ramesh
08 Feb 2009 17:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 532497

Re: Indian Artillery

Baljeet wrote:Yusuf
I agree, Arjun is as dead as it can be. The best thing for using Arjun will be to mount a 155mm gun with modifications to Arjun Chassis. It may be asking for too much.

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