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by Liu
11 Apr 2017 16:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

So you need at least 10% non-Han examples. Name one Tibetan or Uighur member of the CPC Central Committee, or PLA upper leadership. Or PLAN. Or PLAAF. Cute traffic policewomen don't count. Here are the facts: there's never been a non-Han member of the Politburo Standing Committee , ever. There have...
by Liu
11 Apr 2017 16:06
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

So you need at least 10% non-Han examples. Name one Tibetan or Uighur member of the CPC Central Committee, or PLA upper leadership. Or PLAN. Or PLAAF. Cute traffic policewomen don't count. Here are the facts: there's never been a non-Han member of the Politburo Standing Committee , ever. There have...
by Liu
11 Apr 2017 12:50
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

india deployed much more troops along sino~india border than china,but so many indians are stll worried about the imagined 'invasion from china',while few chinese are worried about 'invasion from india'. the case just proves that facing china, india is offensive tactically while defensive strategic...
by Liu
11 Apr 2017 10:19
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

it also means less chinese troops on tibet highland can defend effectively there. morever,good infrastructure in tibet means that enough PLA troops can move into tibet in short time when necessory. Absolutely true. So it is to India' advantage to make the Chinese defend Tibet inside Tibet. That is ...
by Liu
11 Apr 2017 09:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

if india wants to march into tibet ,india army have to climb and cross hymalayas . the poor infrastructures in hymalayas means terrible ligistics and only limited india troops can be deployed effectively along the frontier,however many troops india has. it also means less chinese troops on tibet hig...
by Liu
10 Apr 2017 19:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4394
Views: 961192

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

the low cost of chinese industry section means china industry can pruduce more weapons that USA's ,with the same defence expenditure. so,USA has no chance to win a quantity race with china. if USA can not keep its tech edge on china( now china seems to catch up rapidly),USA would be in a hopeless s...
by Liu
10 Apr 2017 13:35
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

Tkiran..breakup of pakistan will not unravel china... pakis are at best whores for the chinese...there is some tactical gain but its loss not sufficient to unravel china. Breakup of pakistan means we can focus on chinese alone. As i mentioned once on some thread while listening to a senior IA offic...
by Liu
10 Apr 2017 09:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4394
Views: 961192

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

China’s military and growing political power http://voxeu.org/article/mismeasuring-china-s-military-spending Pretty much means that racing with the PRC in production is a fool's errand. It is a first-rate industrial power with a third rate military. Rather alarming premise that the PRC is currently...
by Liu
08 Apr 2017 07:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

even if you holy emperor toilet gave you the legitmacy,your 'proclaim' of course would not work,because you can not receive the support of powers. in the world, the legitmacy can never work alone,without the suppport of powers. otherwise,china would have never allowed outer mogolia to break away an...
by Liu
08 Apr 2017 05:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

guy,wake up, as for tibet, india has neither more ligitmacy nor more power than china now. your guys have no chance to march into lhasa under your own flag today. Nice chinese try to change the focus. It is the other way around - the reason this thread was started. It is teh Chinese that do not hav...
by Liu
08 Apr 2017 05:13
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

Our friend Liu needs a couple of lessons in his own country's history... Pop quiz. Can you guess who these soldiers are, and upon whom they are exerting "direct dominance" in these pictures? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ABSIXVU-DAU/Tz6pjwrawBI/AAAAAAAADiI/3Wgs06hla-E/s1600/11-Loodiaah+Sikh+R...
by Liu
08 Apr 2017 05:09
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

Liu. Please keep India out of this discussion. I want to know how valid was this abdication receipt of Qing. I the emperor of my toilet seat proclaim ownership of all provinces of China since the gas I passed has wafted all over your country via tradewinds and hence was a heavenly tribute and bless...
by Liu
07 Apr 2017 22:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

was Mughal Empire indian? all Mughal Empire,Yuan Empire and Qing Empire were 'Conquerer dynastry'( backward tribes conquered advanced civilization) and usually looked on as a part of the conquerees' history,because the conquerers have been assimilated and lost their ethnic characteristics. if Mugha...
by Liu
07 Apr 2017 20:17
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

What China has done to Tibet, China will do to the other nations in time. China will occupy Nepal, as an example. Some African nations are already owned by China. at least by now,china's claim of sovereignty has been strictly limited to the border of Qing dynasty. no proof suggests that china would...
by Liu
07 Apr 2017 18:23
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

The Yuan empire was Mongolian not Chinese. So by this China belongs to Mongolia, if we use Chinese logic. It was during the Mongol Yuan dynasty that Tibet was administered by Mongols not the Chinese, . was Mughal Empire indian? all Mughal Empire,Yuan Empire and Qing Empire were 'Conquerer dynastry'...
by Liu
07 Apr 2017 14:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

3. is The Sikh empire from india or pakistan? i am not sure of it. You should know that Pakistan itself was part of India and an artificial construct from 1947. It does not have a locus standi before 1947 as more than 50% of population of West Pakistan migrated from India during partition. but now ...
by Liu
07 Apr 2017 13:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

before 1950s, neither china/tibet nor Britain/india had any administration in Aksai Chin. at that time,Aksai chin was a uninhibinated area as a natural buffer between china/tibet and Britain/india. According to a boundary line(Johnson line) unilaterally written by britishmen, Britishmen seemed to t...
by Liu
03 Apr 2017 06:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

well, there is a huge difference. that is, when in 1950s chinese took over Aksai Chin,chinese had nothing to expell there. however,when british india took over Tawang in 1930s~1940s, they expelled Tibetan administrations there,which had worked there for hundreds of years. So by that LOGIC the part ...
by Liu
03 Apr 2017 05:48
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

After 17th or 18th century,china set up an indirect dominance in Tibet ,as Britain did with india Thanks. Again. I am glad you agree that Tibet was never a part of China. You see in free India we read history. you are wrong. case is that India once was a part of British empire( as Tibet was a part ...
by Liu
03 Apr 2017 05:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

Chinese do understand the difference between then and now, past and present? Again Mongolia is the rightful inheritor of China, why be selective? Or is consistency against the CCP's directives? if today mogolia still occupied/controlled china(just as Anglosaxon does so with USA/canada/Australia/New...
by Liu
03 Apr 2017 01:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

A difference is that Tibetans never had administrations in Timbuku,while Tibetan administrstions had worked in Tawang for hundreds of years before British india invaded in 1930s or 1940s. you can not ignore it. Thanks. Proves China was never in the picture. After 17th or 18th century,china set up a...
by Liu
03 Apr 2017 00:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

Not to forget does any such logic apply for the UNCLOS ruling on SCS? I am keen to hear what chinese "deep throat"s have to say while swallowing hard and long .....truth... there are some similarties between Chinese claims of SCS(9 dashes)and india's one of sino~india boundary lines(mainl...
by Liu
03 Apr 2017 00:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

so going by that logic(if you know what it means) we can have tawang..as we have controlled/administered it for more almost 70 years; more than what chinese did with aksai chin? well, there is a huge difference. that is, when in 1950s chinese took over Aksai Chin,chinese had nothing to expell there...
by Liu
02 Apr 2017 22:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

Liu, Was chinese administration there in Aksai Chin before 60s? before 1950s, neither china/tibet nor Britain/india had any administration in Aksai Chin. at that time,Aksai chin was a uninhibinated area as a natural buffer between china/tibet and Britain/india. According to a boundary line(Johnson ...
by Liu
02 Apr 2017 21:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

Since china insists That is the problem. BTW, the birth of a DL can take place anywhere. So to associated the birth PLACE of a DL to a Tibetian area is wrong to start with. IF the next DL is born in Timbuktu, then China will lay a claim on that place in Africa too. Not that China needs any reason t...
by Liu
02 Apr 2017 21:17
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

Once during the Simla conference of 1914,Tibetans agreed to cede Tawang to British india, on the precondition that Britishmen sucessfully forced China to acknowlege the independence of Tibet and accept the Tibet~china boundary so called. At that time, newly~born Republic of China resisted the pressu...
by Liu
02 Apr 2017 20:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 214316

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

^^^There is a religious angle to the Tawang fixation. The monastery in Tawang belong the 'Yellow hat' sect of Tibetan Buddhism, the same sect to which Dalai Lama belongs. The 6th Dalai Lama (current Dalai Lama is 14th in series) was born at a place close to Tawang. The current Dalai Lama has also s...
by Liu
02 Apr 2017 17:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA: News & Discussion - June 2014
Replies: 2757
Views: 363872

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread - June 2014

well,
rumor came out from CD, that T50 is frozen and china wants it badly.

one famous chinese “deep throat” adult movie star reported it on Weibo(chinese poor attempt at copying twitter).

is it a joke on 1st,April?
by Liu
29 Mar 2017 08:35
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4394
Views: 961192

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

At LIMA 2017 China Displayed AIP based S26T submarine , Thailand will buy 3 Submarine of this class https://vpk.name/file/img/napl-s26t-1490616825.t.jpg http://quwa.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/CSIC-Submarine-01-692x360.png http://quwa.org/2017/03/28/thai-prime-minister-confirms-plans-buy-submari...
by Liu
27 Mar 2017 21:31
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4394
Views: 961192

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

its not shown on map but I believe there is a golmud to lhasa pipe, maybe for refined petroleum. look for large POL farms around lhasa that will be where its stored for use. usually will be near railway line to move heavy equipment and to use oil trains if pipe is under repair. looks like cheen is ...
by Liu
18 Mar 2017 06:06
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA: News & Discussion - June 2014
Replies: 2757
Views: 363872

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread - June 2014

Full tech transfer could derail Indo-Russian fifth-gen fighter program http://www.defensenews.com/articles/full-tech-transfer-could-derail-indo-russian-fifth-gen-fighter-program it is no way for any country to transfer full tech of 5g fighter to india..(if india were in the position of russia, woul...
by Liu
15 Mar 2017 22:04
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4394
Views: 961192

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Mean time China wants restrictions on high tech trade with EU to be eased as a pre requisite for higher imorts from EU :evil: .. take away from the last plenary .. so the last bastion of tech will finally fall .. copy cats here we come !! many civilian tech can be easily used for military purpose. ...
by Liu
15 Mar 2017 15:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4394
Views: 961192

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

That is like a soft counter measure , ever Radar out there would have some kind of EW system to degrade it or atleast try to. Interestingly, you would have to get within LOS to actually directly target an emitter and one of the solutions the article suggests is to tackle a mega watt class radar by ...
by Liu
15 Mar 2017 14:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4394
Views: 961192

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

news from sina. here are some parts of it. WS10B to power J20 soon http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd ... ychhus1398358.shtml 《中国日报》最新报道援引中国航空发动机集团公司代表、航空发动机研发人员陈祥宝的话称:“我国第五代战斗机(即歼-20)配备国产发动机已为期不远。发动机研发过程进展顺利。” recently on CHINA DAILY,MR. Chen Xianbao,the congressman from CAGC(china aeroengine group c...
by Liu
14 Mar 2017 22:50
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4394
Views: 961192

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

........... Shenyang has got lots of mature tech/experience for 5g bird already, that is why j31's prototype can roll out so quickly. ............. What mature tech? I know you are trolling here but still please try to add some substance to your outrageous claims. Making an air-frame which looks li...
by Liu
14 Mar 2017 22:36
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4394
Views: 961192

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Although this thread is turning into a complete loony bin, but here are my 2 cents. I for one won't be surprised at all if Saudis are paying for Porky toys. Porkies just agreed to send a brigade worth of troops to be stationed at Saudi Arabian borders . Funny that they cried like babies when americ...
by Liu
14 Mar 2017 22:13
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4394
Views: 961192

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Liu, you are amazing man. Your post would have been complete if you had mentioned that the 300 J31s was going to transform into Autobots during battle. Shenyang was defeated by Chengdu when bidding for PLA's 5 g backbone bird. Chengdu won the bid with J20. Shenyang is the loser of the bid, but it a...
by Liu
14 Mar 2017 21:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4394
Views: 961192

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

cd news. some guy said on CD that a certain rich MD coutry(s.arabia?) might invest on chinese J31 via pakistan. s.arabia has a good impression on china~made drones after placing a huge order of chinese drones recently in Zhuhai,one prince from s.arabia visited Shenyang and was impressed on the cost...
by Liu
14 Mar 2017 08:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4394
Views: 961192

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

cd news. some guy said on CD that a certain rich MD coutry(s.arabia?) might invest on chinese J31 via pakistan. s.arabia has a good impression on china~made drones after placing a huge order of chinese drones recently in Zhuhai,one prince from s.arabia visited Shenyang and was impressed on the costp...
by Liu
11 Mar 2017 21:13
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 4394
Views: 961192

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

yesterday, Mr. Yang Wei, the chief engineer of J20/j10/jf17, was interviewed by Xinhua. here are some of Mr. Yang Wei's words during the interview. http://3g.163.com/touch/article.html?channel=news&docid=CF1O9E3E000187V5 “航空装备发展要服务于国家战略。中国航空人将凭借自主创新让新装备不只有某个机型的 惊鸿一瞥 ,而是全面、系列化赶超世界先进水平。” the devel...

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