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by Liu
14 Feb 2009 10:54
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

that is why I come here. I am not "hiding dirty behind carpet",but show you a real china. maybe. that is also why I come here. I think that the exchange with you is much more reliable than what english medias and CHinese medias tell me. er, what is the guarantee that you are not a chinese...
by Liu
14 Feb 2009 10:04
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

Liu, I do notice you've tried responding to my questions in the prev page. Thx for the effort. Still, I come off with the feeling that you missed the main point I was trying to make. The Chinese Communist party (CCP) is legislature, judiciary and executive all rolled into one. Thus, whilst other co...
by Liu
14 Feb 2009 09:30
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

This is prolly why we see people snooping in forums from the Commie raj. China prepares $6.6b to improve image in foreign media. :rotfl: http://worldfocus.org/blog/2009/01/13/china-prepares-66b-to-improve-image-in-foreign-media/3589/ Which brings me to my second point: the credibility of the media ...
by Liu
14 Feb 2009 09:10
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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As for "Mass protests will not be reported in the media and the whole thing will be supresed" ,I do disgree it. Today, internet is so popular in China that it is impossible to "cover" "masss-protest" in CHina today. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Internet censorship i...
by Liu
14 Feb 2009 09:03
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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Liu: If you showed an Indian person these two pictures above, without any signs of it being China, they would think it was some Indian rural area. If you think Indian rural areas are all mud huts with no roads, you have no idea what you are talking about. that is why I come here. I am not "hid...
by Liu
14 Feb 2009 08:56
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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good question! 1.Legally,Judciary in China is " independly" ,but in fact ,the leaders of local judiciaries are nominated by the leaders of local CCP branch . the budget of local judciary is also controlled by the leaders of local government. So , In fact , Local judiciary in China is cont...
by Liu
14 Feb 2009 08:37
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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BTW, I think CHnese government's priority of investment is quite different different Indian government ,even most Indian people here. For example: According to my understanding, if Indian government has 100 million USD, Indian government usually tends to spend most of the fund on "more allowanc...
by Liu
14 Feb 2009 08:11
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

And I do have explained that how "urban villiages" , the Chinese "slum" you call,appears , what is the difference between "urban villages" and "slum" and why is it so hard for Chinese government to rebuild them. If you still think "urban villages"=&...
by Liu
14 Feb 2009 07:34
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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2. if " the state" wants to build a expressway through a village, " the state" has to "buy" the occupied land from "the village". Just as I refered, the leaders of local governments usually have to do what they can do to stop or avoid " mass-protest"...
by Liu
14 Feb 2009 00:42
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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Liu, Simple question onlee. How easy and typical is it to sue the Chinese govt and actually win? I mean, Is it even possible (coz last I heard that needs an independent judiciary, not a pakistan-style one)? Sounds like a dumb question, right? Well, why that question gains importance is this - if th...
by Liu
13 Feb 2009 23:16
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

Liu I posted a question to you several posts ago which you have either ignored or don't want to answer. I'll rephrase the question and post it again and hope you'll attempt to answer so that we can have a serious discussion going. Q: What do you think will be effect of a fat U-shaped (or even a dou...
by Liu
13 Feb 2009 23:02
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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Wonder why nobody saw the irony in this. A Chinese poster gloating that there are no Mao Guerrillas in China, no separatists like in Assam, no "continuous bombs...." Liu, just so you know: Maoists in India are funded by China; "Separatists" in Assam, Arunachal, are actively enco...
by Liu
13 Feb 2009 22:44
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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RaghavK: Please tone it down. If the other poster is factually wrong, just rebut the statements with facts instead of inciting a lynch mob. Liu: Let me give you some background. There is a very long history of (dozens of) Chinese ex-posters on this forum over many years, all of whom came running in...
by Liu
13 Feb 2009 22:33
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

Liu, Please do your utmost to convince the members here who haven't been to China that there are no slums etc. etc. coz I am not convinced. My parents visited China in 2008 and basically what they had to say was this...the cities look great and very 1st world but the further you stray from the busi...
by Liu
13 Feb 2009 10:49
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

But sometimes, the govenment would refuse the price the owners offered.when the amount of relocating-compesation is not agreed ,such funny stalemates often appear as showed in the picture: Enough of your BS :!: . The last image of the house standing there is because the owner of the house is a memb...
by Liu
13 Feb 2009 10:27
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

so where did all these peasants go? given apartments in that tower? generally what kind of money or housing is given to peasants and farmers forced to relocate by developers? how far away are these housing located...people of that type generally tend to work close by in small industry, small shops,...
by Liu
13 Feb 2009 09:11
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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http://www.newint.org/features/2006/01/01/introduction.jpg BTW, this photoe seems quite old,because I know the place quite well. The place is called " Cai_wu_wei(蔡屋围)", the downtown of Shenzhen city, one of the richest and most advanced CHinese cities. the skyscraper in the picture is cal...
by Liu
13 Feb 2009 08:48
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

1.slum. Have you seen any slum in Chinese cities? Vietnam also has land distribution system similar with china. Have you seen any slum in Vietnam cities? Liu, We haven't seen ANY pictures of inner city areas of Chinese cities because photographers are not allowed to take pictures. Interestingly whe...
by Liu
13 Feb 2009 08:02
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: Global Economy
Replies: 2337
Views: 455940

Re: GLOBAL ECONOMY

some interesting rank: -------------------------------------------------------------------- the 2008 GDP of actual material sections( agriculture+industry or GDP-the service section) http://www.ccthere.com/thread/2026254 [original data : wold bank] 1:USA,2.9 trillion USD: 2:China,2.4trillin USD: 3:J...
by Liu
13 Feb 2009 08:01
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 389601

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

some interesting rank: -------------------------------------------------------------------- the 2008 GDP of actual material sections( agriculture+industry or GDP-the service section) http://www.ccthere.com/thread/2026254 [original data : wold bank] 1:USA,2.9 trillion USD: 2:China,2.4trillin USD: 3:J...
by Liu
13 Feb 2009 07:41
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

:!: Folks: We've seen this before; someone comes in and tries to start an H&D argument and everyone descends on him. By all means use facts to argue, but personal attacks will lead to intervention from the moderators. I do agree . personal attack should be baned. it is a forum for us to exchang...
by Liu
13 Feb 2009 07:39
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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Liu it would be better if you state facts and not official propoganda of the party. People here are not dumb Pakis who will swallow all your statement without a challenge. Since you have come down to bombs and Guns argument. Please explain why and what was the reason that 20 -35 million Chinese had...
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 22:48
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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Liu, Sorry to say but your post seems to indicate that the bad in your earlier bad wolf moniker was more attuned to “stupid” than anything else. Your per capita figures of various regions of China make for excellent fiction but I’ll let it go. However, this piece is a gem – a keeper among quotable ...
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 22:05
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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Do you have a basis/proof to support this? You are too pessimistic to China's future. Just as I refered, China's land distribution system is much superior to India's. Nearly all Chinese peasants has their own land for issurance [/quote] Basis/proof? 1.slum. Have you seen any slum in Chinese cities?...
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 21:44
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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Do you have a basis/proof to support this? How do you respond to this? http://drishtikona.com/archives/rural_development/001205.php China Vs. India- Indian Farmers Far Better Lot Posted : March 26, 2006 at 6:18 pm [IST] Indian Farmer Chinese Farmer ‘The economist’ has an article on the fate of the ...
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 20:14
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Economy: News and Discussion (June 8 2008)
Replies: 2768
Views: 378598

Re: Indian Economy: News and Discussion (June 8 2008)

excuse me ,everyone here!
may I ask question?

which do you think is the biggest barrier to the further development of india's economy ?

1. infrastructure.

2. land distribution system.

3. political system

4.anti-industrialization policy.
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 19:37
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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What an interesting indication it is that Chinese trade surplus is still roaring! "Total foreign trade was US$141.8 billion, with the trade surplus up 102 percent over the same month of last year to US$39.1 billion." http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-02/11/content_7467126.htm If it g...
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 18:21
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 389601

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

Abhi, Trade war with China may not be a bad idea. :D That will stop the shipping of iron ore and other commodities to China. Its better we keep iron ore in the country and produce steel with it rather than feeding Chinese steel mills. And the demand from steel in China has fallen so the export of s...
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 18:05
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

You are too pessimistic to China's future. Inland CHina is hardly to be affected by the crisis while inland china has 60%+ of china's population . Badwolf, You know massaging data with selective quoting of facts is a useful procedure when you want to paint a rosy picture. However, you need to be ca...
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 17:00
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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archan wrote:sorry. It has to be something like JohnG, G_John or something.

how about "Johnliu"?
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 16:56
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 389601

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

India-China Trade Tensions Rise China threatens to bring its opposition to India's toy import ban to the WTO, while India seems poised to restrict other Chinese products Sino-Indian trade is small fry in absolute terms but expect this trade row to get watched rather carefully and played up by inter...
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 16:40
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

For your point #1. Here is the link http://www.strategicforesight.com/crouchingdragon-chinesepeasants.htm The farmers in China do not even have land ownership rights. There are about 373 million peasants forming about 49 per cent of China’s total labour force of 750 million. The land is legally own...
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 15:41
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

Our Chini friends are gurus of Bakistanis in twisted halal logic :mrgreen: Here Obviously you misunderstand the data. well, because of there are one-week-long vacation of CHinese new year on the January , 14 days of the January's 31 days In China are non-working days. This implies that there were n...
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 15:34
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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Suraj wrote:badwolf: This is a forum moderation note - your username is not acceptable. According to forum guidelines, you need to register with a human name. Please provide one, and your profile will be adjusted accordingly. Thanks.

would you mind changing my username to "goodJohn"?
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 10:58
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

when peple's income decreas, what people would give up buying first,Rolls-Royce or clothes? Obviously, People usually give rolls-royce. That is what is happening today. The exports of the countries who produce the luxery like rolls-rayce decreased most ,such as UK and Japan. Instead, the export of C...
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 10:50
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

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My cheeni colleague says that there is serious discontentement amongst the masses, but there is enormous pressure put on the disaffected crowd by chanting the mantra of 'collective harmony', whatever that $hit means. She cited an example that if any tenant in a building wanted to complain, the enti...
by Liu
12 Feb 2009 10:36
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: PRC Economy and Industry: News and Discussions
Replies: 3933
Views: 532619

Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II

BW China's exports plunge 17.5 percent in January BEIJING China says its exports plunged by a stunning 17.5 percent in January from the same month last year. The sharp fall, reported by China's customs agency Wednesday, was the biggest decline in more than a decade and reflected steadily weakening ...

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