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by member_20453
16 Sep 2015 16:35
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 3963
Views: 186901

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

http://www.oneindia.com/india/oneindia- ... 33530.html

The first modified aircraft was only available as of Feb 2015. Instrument tests started in July which means, the aircraft other upgrades were being validated between Feb and July.
by member_20453
16 Sep 2015 16:31
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 3963
Views: 186901

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

those are mere speculations or things to be incorporated later, why not test fire plain vanilla brahmos from plain vanilla mki. they had issues, first with weight reduction, then adapter. Going by past reports, the sequence for testing is, 1st, instrument flight test most likely for the missile ada...
by member_20453
16 Sep 2015 14:33
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 3963
Views: 186901

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

The reason for the delays in operationalizing the Brahmos on the Super 30 MKI I believe has more to do with one of the core intentions. Majority of the modifications to the aircraft were not just the hardening of the undercarriage but also hardening of the aircraft's electronics against EMP. These B...
by member_20453
11 Sep 2015 15:27
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

SH of course. A type that's been rendered utterly irrelevant by the F-35. SH International is still a far better aircraft in the Indian context than the Rafale. For the same amount being spent on the Rafale in a pure FMS with 50% offsets, we can easily get 70 Super Hornets in less than 5 years with...
by member_20453
08 Sep 2015 16:01
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 164491

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

With IJT being late by god knows how many years, its only natural the IAF will look at the Scorpion, I for one support this one. Looks like a very pragmatic aircraft, can easily be used for light combat roles too, would work well with the Combat hawk. IJT always had issues, best to scrap it. The Sco...
by member_20453
07 Sep 2015 10:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pakistan arms sales, ops, doctrine, etc
Replies: 3094
Views: 260720

Re: Pakistan arms sales, ops, doctrine, etc

fanne wrote:Wow 3 billion for 22 Apache !!! Is rafale cheaper?


The 22 Apache deal is worth 1.4 billion and includes costs of infrastructure, service, maintenance and it's weapons package (over a 1000 hellfires, 200+ stingers etc)

http://www.indiastrategic.in/topstories839.htm
by member_20453
03 Sep 2015 14:02
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 4375
Views: 748155

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Well I think all 3 services i.e IAF/IA/IN can use the Apache, equipped with longbow, they will have unprecedented capability when it comes to Helo based command and control for coordinated & networked strike ops. They could easily act as C2/C3 nodes in the battlefield guiding and multiplying the...
by member_20453
03 Sep 2015 13:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Well I do not see any sanctions against India from the US, they have too much business opportunities and sanctions would threaten any future possibilities of business. I think we should go ahead and do an underground test of one of our megaton thermonukes just to test the waters, apart from some con...
by member_20453
02 Sep 2015 20:33
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Now question is, is there money or the will left over to buy another 3-4 sqds of super Mki? What would be the earliest possible delivery timeline if deal is done this week. Can we hope for some quick deliveries like Egypt or do we need to wait 2-3 years for the 1st ones.
by member_20453
02 Sep 2015 17:35
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Indeed, 36 won't be the last, I think another 36 or more will be ordered in the future when money is found. Actually makes no sense to have 36 only, get 90 i.e. 1 squadron of 18 for every one of the 5 air commands and be done with it. However, weapons integration is probably agreed it upon, probably...
by member_20453
02 Sep 2015 14:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

My problem was never with the aircraft but with the people pushing it, seems like they have been told to get in line else loose the deal, well glad that at least IAF gets something out of it. Agree with Karan, a 36 aircraft deal is hardly scratching the surface, the deal size should be at least 90 (...
by member_20453
28 Aug 2015 19:33
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

<POOF> Final warning before a perma-ban
by member_20453
28 Aug 2015 17:24
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

[quote="arthuro"]I am pretty sure IAF will get rafale's source codes (let's see) and for a first tier ally of France it shouldn't pose any issue as this was part of the package proposed to Brazil, Switzerland and now Canada. For the F35 just forget it, don't even ask. And sorry for the rea...
by member_20453
28 Aug 2015 17:00
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Septimus P. IAF trialed Rafale as part of MMRCA. F35 was not there. You mention 'cataracts in their eyes for over a decade now" - why?[/quote] I speak of countries where F-35 did participate against the Rafale and the nations picking the F-35 have never flown the bird during evaluations, even t...
by member_20453
28 Aug 2015 13:20
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Second, vast majority of F35 exports were not open tenders or with a strong US bias. You can't ignore that some countries are buying US aircafts for strategic reasons. Only in the Netherlands and Canada the rafale faced the F35. In the Netherlands the rafale was rated extremely close to the F35 and...
by member_20453
26 Aug 2015 16:51
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

The French are really on a roll!! If India does not act fact, the Euro 8 billion may go up to Euro 10 billion, take it or leave it!!. The tragedy is that the Indian procurement process and Modi's announcement in Paris in May may have provided the credibility and impetus for the Qatari, Egyptian and ...
by member_20453
26 Aug 2015 16:37
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Imported Air Force or not, IAF has always had a major problem at the highest levels. The lowly fighter pilot whether in an outdated airframe fatigue infested Mig-21 or sparling new Su-30MKI rushes off to defend the skies and take the battle to the enemy when needed and we are ever grateful for their...
by member_20453
26 Aug 2015 13:21
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread
Replies: 444
Views: 38445

Re: Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

RAW has very deep assets in Pak, everything from key peeps, key nut jobs, to strategic assets are very carefully monitored or can be found. RAW had very specific intel on OBL while the West was turning over boulders in caves looking for him. It was RAW's key intel that urged the US to look closer to...
by member_20453
20 Aug 2015 13:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions
Replies: 3980
Views: 174437

Re: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions

Can Saurav confirm which other Missiles will be integrated on the LCA, I mean Air to surface/ Anti ship/ Anti radar missiles specifically. Will they be integrating KH-31A/P, KH-35, KH-59 on the Tejas?
by member_20453
13 Aug 2015 14:37
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 3963
Views: 186901

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Yes, waiting for the Pragati/Prahar trials, no news for quite some time, wonder what's happening.
by member_20453
11 Aug 2015 12:56
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

The Rafale & EF are no doubt good aircraft, they can work well with the MKI. The problem with Rafale was never the aircraft but the people pushing it. They have fallen flat on pretty much every promise made from TOT to costing. Meanwhile precious time is wasted and both are quite expensive even ...
by member_20453
10 Aug 2015 13:35
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

And that's why IAF has always been a strong proponent for the rafale and is still pushing for aditional ones. The IAF - RAF exercise does not prove in any way that the Mki is superior to the typhoon. Personnaly I think the Typhoon has an edge against the SU30 both in WVR and BVR in a true combat sce...
by member_20453
07 Aug 2015 17:06
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 3963
Views: 186901

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Gyan Ji, I believe the Barak-8 should already have an effective range of 100 km+, I really doubt the 70km range they keep mentioning. Barak-8 ER will have range of 120km but it will really be more like 160 km or so.
by member_20453
06 Aug 2015 15:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 3366
Views: 532994

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Well, I think we should really scrap the Rafale deal and order around 60 more Super MKI with Brahmos/Nirbhay ability to add to the 40 already on order which will also have this ability. I think we need at least 100 MKI which are Brahmos/Nirbhay capable. They wont because Rafale is targetted at diff...
by member_20453
06 Aug 2015 13:50
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 3366
Views: 532994

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Well, I think we should really scrap the Rafale deal and order around 60 more Super MKI with Brahmos/Nirbhay ability to add to the 40 already on order which will also have this ability. I think we need at least 100 MKI which are Brahmos/Nirbhay capable.
by member_20453
28 Jul 2015 12:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Abdul Kalam passes away Oct 15, 1931 - July 27, 2015
Replies: 222
Views: 11661

Re: Abdul Kalam passes away Oct 15, 1931 - July 27, 2015

President Kalam's last moments. Quoting this in full as for truly great men, their life is their message. Just reading about his last few hours is enough to understand what made him so great and such an inspirational figure. http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/on-facebook-president-apj-abdul-kalams-aide...
by member_20453
12 Jul 2015 05:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 3366
Views: 532994

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Absolutely, SDB is a fantastic weapon. To say SDB was developed to fit into teeny bomb bays of F-35s and F-22 is all but silly, couldn't be further away from the truth. SDB allows for all fighters to utilize the stations better and the weapon can be used against a variety of targets. It also has a g...
by member_20453
07 Jul 2015 14:03
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Small Arms Thread
Replies: 4653
Views: 871574

Re: Small Arms Thread

Indeed as Picklu suggests the SLR made by OFB is a very reliable rifle as, actually I would love IA/OFB to come up with a modified variant of the SLR, it would be make the ideal squad sniper rifle. Actually they only need to add a piccatiny rail on top, perhaps a couple of small rails up front, perh...
by member_20453
06 Jul 2015 12:48
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Small Arms Thread
Replies: 4653
Views: 871574

Re: Small Arms Thread

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.be/2013/04/mods-massive-rs-15000-cr-upgrade-for.html Normally quality shouldn't be an issue any more once this upgraded Excalibur Rifle goes into production, 15K crores are being pumped into all 41 OFB factories to drastically improve quality, plan is to turn these into 21...
by member_20453
30 Jun 2015 16:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119258

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

https://www.f35.com/news/detail/f-35-fl ... -maneuvers

The farticle from War is Boring is pretty fake. The F-35 AF-2 being mentioned only flew for the 1st in BFM against the F-35 in April. It didn't fly as mentioned in Jan.
by member_20453
16 Jun 2015 12:20
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 11 June 2014
Replies: 706
Views: 29083

Re: Joint Army/IAF Anti-Terrorist Cross Border Op into Myanm

The decision on who would hit the camps was a forgone conclusion. The only troops capable of carrying out such a delicate operation was secretive unit known as 21 Para (Special Forces). Forging a new legacy The success of the June 9 operation has demonstrated the need for India’s military to re-exa...
by member_20453
05 Jun 2015 13:19
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions
Replies: 3980
Views: 174437

Re: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions

I see only one way out. DM should force the IAF to accept the LCA mk 1/1.5. I think if the DM goes forward and sanctions additional 100 LCA mk-1.5s all to be delivered latest by 2020/21, IAF will have no choice but to live with it. I think an immediate effort to double production rate from 16 next y...
by member_20453
04 Jun 2015 18:32
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions
Replies: 3980
Views: 174437

Re: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions

IAF is suffering from four of the six personality traits that lead to error/mistake zone. -Anti-Authority: Don't tell me what to do! - Invulnerability: It cant happen to me! -Macho: I can to it! - Mission-it is: I must get "it" right away! A fifth uncharitable one is "I need my toy o...
by member_20453
04 Jun 2015 16:17
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Brig. RayC RIP
Replies: 90
Views: 12544

Re: Brig. RayC RIP

My deepest Condolences to Sir Brigadier Ray, a true soldier, a wise practitioner of the core values of a patriot. May his soul rest in piece. May this beautiful land of ours continue to produce more leaders/officers/patriots like him. I humbly take off my hat to this man and raise my palm in salutat...
by member_20453
04 Jun 2015 13:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

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I fail to see how that American blessing - a mirage actually - helped us in 1965 or 1971. In fact Nixon and Kissinger were clearly on Pakistan's side during the entire '71 conflict. It was an all out war and Pakistan got its ass whupped. Please wake up from your vegetative coma. At the short of a g...
by member_20453
03 Jun 2015 13:09
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Your lack of logical thinking clearly has no limits. A handful of SF transports, 10-12 don't constitute anywhere near the fighting punch 126 MMRCA do and nor are the former anywhere near as hard to replace or represent the financial outlay 126MMRCA do. See above and think. You were the one quoting ...
by member_20453
02 Jun 2015 19:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

LCA mk-1 should be forced into the IAF regardless of how much they bicker. I think the DM should mandate a large expansion of the LCA line with at least 30 aircraft per year and an immediate order of an additional 100 MK-1 should be made, all to be delivered in FOC config. by 2020.
by member_20453
02 Jun 2015 19:13
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Silly you call it meaningless yet the same transports will be used to deploy SF deep into the heart of the enemy, they are not war fighting equipment per say but they enable a respectable war. Actually, good luck using fighter aircraft alone to fight any battle. Also you speak of one system? You do ...
by member_20453
02 Jun 2015 18:51
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Each time US SD f@rts, those SH will become hanger queens. Then we should give back everything we ever bought from them I suppose and cancel whatever we plan to buy including more P-8Is, C-130Js, C-17s, what about the eventual large fleet of S-70Bs? If anything as long as things are good, US aircra...
by member_20453
02 Jun 2015 18:36
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 254131

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Speaking of finances, the only aircraft under MRCA that was affordable and quite capable is the Super hornet. A straight out buy of this work horse would have addressed any shortages in aircraft without breaking the bank. But IAF just couldn't resist the dance moves Rafale/EF could do. Also I don't ...

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