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by John
01 Feb 2019 02:00
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 1703
Views: 368758

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

^^Rakesh it is a marketing gimmick. The Russians haven't been able to make the Amur work even without this VLS plug. This is high fantasy onlee. A fantasy which our good old Philip saar likes to remind us of every now and then as if it is already in production. Yeap Rakesh it is marketing gimmick a...
by John
01 Feb 2019 00:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 1703
Views: 368758

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Even then a 8 Brahmos VLS will weight well over 30 tons, that will have sizable impact on its performance and require design changes to accommodate that. Even Virginia class carries only 12 TLAM which weight far less than 8 Brahmos. If we go with Soryu, at this point i would rather keep it simple a...
by John
31 Jan 2019 23:52
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 1703
Views: 368758

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

I will be reply to rest later on but I believe Brahmos vls for SSKs is out of picture it is simply too big ( you are taking about something 3x the size of tomahawk incl canister. Isn't Soryu class has a displacement of over 3500T? That's pretty big as far as modern SSKs go. Even then a 8 Brahmos VL...
by John
31 Jan 2019 23:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 1703
Views: 368758

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Russia will never agree to putting BrahMos VLS plug on a Soryu Class though. I prefer to see a BrahMos VLS plug on the upcoming six SSNs. Patrolling the Malacca Straits and the South China Sea. Every now and then, ping the PLAN that we are in the area :) I will be reply to rest later on but I belie...
by John
31 Jan 2019 18:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 1703
Views: 368758

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Tsarkar I believe this is referring the networking ability of Barak-8 where other MF-STAR can guide missiles ( in case of Barak-8 they provide mcg but they can provide illumination for Semi active radar guided missiles). So Chennai can be launch platform but Kolkata could provide target tracking and...
by John
31 Jan 2019 02:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1517
Views: 91841

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

One of major aspects for ships getting retired is the ships machinery nearing end of life mainly the propulsion system, simply not feasible to replace turbines/engines, shaft and propellers along with their control units. Ironically one of my main concerns with Vikramaditya is her boilers and steam ...
by John
30 Jan 2019 18:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Russian Weapons & Military Technology
Replies: 1617
Views: 247027

Re: Russian Weapons & Military Technology

Why does tweet claim it is similar to Su-57?
by John
28 Jan 2019 05:24
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 1371
Views: 341744

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1088678611974930438 ---> Here's a clipping of the recently tested New Generation Anti-Radiation Missile (NGARM) developed by DRDO from the IAF's 85th Anniversary Video. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxvDOWEV4AEucHi.jpg Su-30mki could easily carry 4-6 along with few...
by John
27 Jan 2019 10:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Russian Weapons & Military Technology
Replies: 1617
Views: 247027

Re: Russian Weapons & Military Technology

Almost zero visibility and snow around is receipe for disaster , wet runways or snow can lead to skidding , why do they even fly in such dangerous conditions unless the weather changes drastically in couple of minutes can happen , seems hard landing and bounce leading to breaking of fuselage , RIP ...
by John
25 Jan 2019 17:35
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 1371
Views: 341744

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Barak-8-ER is not meant for the navy. If it comes, it will only be for the airforce. The Extended range version requires an additional solid booster. This increases the minimum range at which the missile can engage a target. For the navy the missile is supposed to work from point defence mode, upto...
by John
25 Jan 2019 01:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 1371
Views: 341744

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Even a 100km+ SAM would be a great capabklity.My concern is that our major surface combatants cannit carry large nos. of these LR SAMs.What is also needed is a short-to-med. range very effective anti- missile system for all classes of warships to replace Barak-1.These are needed to counter saturate...
by John
24 Jan 2019 21:04
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 1371
Views: 341744

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

NGARM and LR-SAM tested. Considering latter was test fired from INS Chennai (which has already been inducted) i am hoping these are tests for Barak-8 ER and 150 km range happens to range quoted for Barak-8 ER. Added: The article seems to be indicates that this is ER ("Extended interception rang...
by John
23 Jan 2019 02:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 2955
Views: 618380

Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Honeywell clearly knows that they got the IAF right where they want them to be. No other engine manufacturer has an upgrade program for the Jaguar. So they will jack up the price. At this stage, if Honeywell does not budge then the IAF will have to continue with the Darin III upgrade minus the F125...
by John
22 Jan 2019 21:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 3857
Views: 712203

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

I wonder if leftist Obama administration also gave them the YF-23 design as a partying gift barring the wings design this looks so similar to the YF-23 design China is importance in the growth of US economy is always understated (granted it came at the expense of Europe and Japan). it helped provid...
by John
22 Jan 2019 20:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 2955
Views: 618380

Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Given the typical cost 50-100% overruns with almost all projects this will easily end up around 40+ million per AC. And HAL will likely lose money on this deal and not to mention significant risk with certification. I would not be surprised if they are praying for this deal to be axed as well. Inter...
by John
22 Jan 2019 18:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 2955
Views: 618380

Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

So the new cost of two engines for each Jag, cost 2/3 the price of LCA MK1 :rotfl: Even the 2013 quote, if we include the cost of the entire change, it comes to 30 million per Jag, more than LCA Mk1 :rotfl: And they need to retire in max of 10 years! Not even worth it at this point to upgrade it ev...
by John
18 Jan 2019 23:24
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 4047
Views: 634215

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

I have a feeling IA will hold the LCH to the cost and go for more Rudra. You are technically getting double the numbers with some inferior capability, however still with rockets, AAM,, FLIR & ATGM. 2 Rudra will have more loadout over 1 LCH, nor can it be on two places at the same time. Actually...
by John
18 Jan 2019 22:02
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 4047
Views: 634215

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Rudra is half the price of LCH? The weapon type,number of engine, majority of the avonics are similar. LCH might be able to carry 4 more ? ATGM. Higher speed due to the shape. But then I don't think the cost includes weapons. What adds to the cost of LCH? Low rate of production? May be it is the co...
by John
18 Jan 2019 18:40
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 1703
Views: 368758

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

^ I believe there was plan to fit Barak-8 + Mf-Star which would be equally complex and more expensive. If that is still planned as part of extensive refit may be in mid next decade not sure why cannot lump in elevator modification as part of that.
by John
16 Jan 2019 23:46
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 4047
Views: 634215

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

True.However, building such variants was repirtedly sjot dow becos of cost.Tucanos are in service in several nations.Even the armed Yak-130 is a cheaper option than armed Hawk variants.It can carry 3 tons of ordnance like AAMs, ASMs, PG bombs, etc on 6 uw stations, plus two wing- tip AAMs/ ESM pods...
by John
16 Jan 2019 19:37
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 3910
Views: 876334

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Neshant wrote:
John wrote:Contract for 83 should be signed soon.


What have they been doing all this while.

The usual price negotiations while writing blank checks for Russian imports..
by John
16 Jan 2019 19:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Russian Weapons & Military Technology
Replies: 1617
Views: 247027

Re: Russian Weapons & Military Technology

^^^ Yes there some real RC Mig-29s around but the original video was definitely CGI. Its from a simulator its says right in video description. Amazed at all discussion whether it is CGI or RC or not here and in YouTube comments section when author clearly states everything :D FANTASTIC Russian Miko...
by John
15 Jan 2019 19:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 4047
Views: 634215

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

IMO Helicopters are useful for COIN we have seen how quickly apache's and mi-28 are used to level any large insurgent attacks in Iraq/Afghanistan. Lack of attack helicopters greatly hurt Iraq during ISIL rise.
by John
15 Jan 2019 09:10
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Pakistan Armed Forces: News & Discussion Thread
Replies: 810
Views: 201867

Re: Pakistan Armed Forces: News & Discussion Thread

Austin wrote:PA testing its newly acquired LY 80 SAM from China , Video

https://twitter.com/Ali_answers/status/ ... 1465395202

There are reports that couple of these are in unkil labs being dissected I do wonder who might have provided them...
by John
14 Jan 2019 20:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 4047
Views: 634215

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Philip wrote:In Afghanistan, the US lost 12 Apaches, 15 UH-60s and 27 Chinooks.The Saudis have slso lost a few in Yemen.

0 apache due to hostile fire and 13 Chinook due to hostile fire.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... fghanistan
by John
14 Jan 2019 19:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 4047
Views: 634215

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

^ Su-25 didn't fair to well against manpads and no amount of armor is going to protect you from that ( need a soft kill mechanism or APS).
by John
14 Jan 2019 04:53
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 3910
Views: 876334

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Contract for 83 should be signed soon. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/the-lowdown-on-hals-order-book/article25980989.ece HAL has also stated that with anticipated collections up to March, the cash position is expected to improve and in terms of future orders, final contracts for 83 LCA Mk1A ...
by John
13 Jan 2019 21:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 1371
Views: 341744

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Considering we wrote a blank check to Russia for S-400 with no extensive trials and testing I love how they are complaining about this. Perhaps we should acknowledge and do the same for S-400 & Grigorivich deals.
by John
10 Jan 2019 23:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 1703
Views: 368758

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Aditya_V wrote:Per Wiki P-28 top speed is 25knots

It's wiki it's based on initial specs, There was article that higher displacement caused lower top speed for first two vessels hence they moved to composite mast for latter two. I believe Kitan can get close to 24 knots.
by John
10 Jan 2019 19:30
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 3910
Views: 876334

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Can we stick to topic? This is turning into discussion for Malaysia RFI? There is intl thread for that.
by John
10 Jan 2019 18:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 1703
Views: 368758

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Are you referring to this? http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/kochi/2019/jan/07/csl-to-sign--rs-5400-crore-contract-with-navy-1921517.html As link states these are ASW corvettes intended to built cheaply in larger nos we discussed them a couple pages back. More P-28 appear to be unlikely as sta...
by John
09 Jan 2019 19:00
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 1703
Views: 368758

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Are you referring to this? http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/kochi/2019/jan/07/csl-to-sign--rs-5400-crore-contract-with-navy-1921517.html As link states these are ASW corvettes intended to built cheaply in larger nos we discussed them a couple pages back. More P-28 appear to be unlikely as stat...
by John
09 Jan 2019 02:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 1703
Views: 368758

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1082626750578741249 ---> Given Mazagon Dockyard Limited's idling capacity, one additional P-15B & one more P-17A can probably be built there by the second half of the 2020s. I think New Delhi should seriously look at this. GRSE, Kolkata is also in the same bo...
by John
04 Jan 2019 19:38
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments
Replies: 2804
Views: 433745

Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

I would not waste my time trying to reengineer Tunguska the system is just a mess. The plan was to build a suite of systems around Skyshield (fixed, tracked, naval etc) but bribery scandal conveniently killed that venture..
by John
04 Jan 2019 18:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments
Replies: 2804
Views: 433745

Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

^ IA considering Ki-30 Biho SPAAG system? Maybe not too happy with Tunguska, it's a maintenance hog. Multiple issues iirc Russians shipped rusted Tunguska systems, system failed to live up to marketing brochure and as you mentioned it was maintenance nightmare. With China money train drying up ( mo...
by John
03 Jan 2019 18:32
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Naval LCA - News and Discussion
Replies: 997
Views: 170087

Re: Naval LCA - News and Discussion

^ Why do we keep discussing Rafale for Vikrant and Vikram, Rafale will not fit in lift of either carrier and even if we sort that out Dassault will require IN funding for Ski jump operations certification. So all said and done just fielding a squadron of Rafale will cost over 6 billion IMO... We re...
by John
03 Jan 2019 11:16
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Naval LCA - News and Discussion
Replies: 997
Views: 170087

Re: Naval LCA - News and Discussion

^ Why do we keep discussing Rafale for Vikrant and Vikram, Rafale will not fit in lift of either carrier and even if we sort that out Dassault will require IN funding for Ski jump operations certification. So all said and done just fielding a squadron of Rafale will cost over 6 billion IMO...
by John
29 Dec 2018 20:50
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 1371
Views: 341744

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Its a bit facetious to claim that subsonic cruise missiles are dead. Low flying CMs like the Nirbhay are practically undetectable and are very effective against a wide variety of land targets. Not every land target is going to be protected with a S400 type system. I am also worried about the lack o...
by John
29 Dec 2018 09:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 1371
Views: 341744

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

One of the defence youtube channel is claiming Nirbhay program is going the Trishul way and is going to be abandoned/cancelled. I mentioned it while back that Nirbhay will likely get the ax simply took too long and shift to hypersonic missiles is all the rage now. This should be case study of how n...

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