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by brar_w
22 May 2014 09:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 665901

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

tushar_m wrote:External stores for now , captive trials were going on for sometime


Thanks, would make some bad ass pictures :D
by brar_w
22 May 2014 09:16
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 665901

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

From the weapons bay or from external stores?
by brar_w
22 May 2014 09:00
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

F-35 B of the USMC along with 2 Eurofighter typhoons

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F-35, Internal and external combat load

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by brar_w
22 May 2014 08:31
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: International Naval News & Discussion
Replies: 3401
Views: 495394

Re: International Naval News and Discussion

Future of the AEGIS sensor suite, The largest gallium nitride (military application) undertaking in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWUTbaIRLWA
by brar_w
22 May 2014 06:45
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
Replies: 5225
Views: 214085

Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

PAK FA MKI @ 60 million sounds rather optimistic, especially for a production run of a 100. Stealth comes at a cost and complexity, it would be tough to credit lower cost of construction of legacy soviet era stuff to modern stealth jet with 2 rather large supercruising engines. I pulled that number...
by brar_w
21 May 2014 21:28
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
Replies: 5225
Views: 214085

Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

With 5 prototypes in the air and no fighter flying with full configuration, or mission system (and propulsion) we are years away from nailing down on the cost of construction for a licence build with its associated learning curve. No matter how PRACTICAL the Russians get they will try to add the mos...
by brar_w
21 May 2014 20:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
Replies: 5225
Views: 214085

Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

PAK FA MKI @ 60 million sounds rather optimistic, especially for a production run of a 100. Stealth comes at a cost and complexity, it would be tough to credit lower cost of construction of legacy soviet era stuff to modern stealth jet with 2 rather large supercruising engines.
by brar_w
21 May 2014 12:32
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
Replies: 5225
Views: 214085

Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Dassault hopes to sign Rafale India deal this year Dassault Aviation (AVMD.PA) Chief Executive Eric Trappier said he hoped to sign a deal to sell Rafale fighter jets to India by the end of the year following the election of pro-business candidate Narendra Modi as the country's new prime minister. I...
by brar_w
21 May 2014 11:05
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4029
Views: 176707

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

The Virginia production at 2 per year is the maximum it can get before millions would need to be spent to boost production further. The 2 per annum is the requirement for the USN and is likely to stay at that level for the foreseeable future. There is no room in the production line to accommodate a ...
by brar_w
21 May 2014 09:00
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4029
Views: 176707

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

My point was only to highlight that a change in relationships and "comfort levels" is not something that is out of the realm of possibility, and is infact a strong possibility given our track record of being a responsible military power, an emerging economic power horse, and a democracy th...
by brar_w
21 May 2014 08:52
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4029
Views: 176707

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

That is precisely what i am saying. And West does not mean only the US. The fact that the US and others will be forced to change their posture towards India is what I am hinting at. As it is, the US is our largest defense provider. Gone are the post-pokhran days, India today is a legitimate, respons...
by brar_w
21 May 2014 07:39
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4029
Views: 176707

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

Nothing is out of "reach" going forward as far as western acquisition is concerned. We must get out of this mindset. As we progress and as Modi establishes himself in the coming years, a lot many "doors" will open that were once closed.
by brar_w
21 May 2014 07:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

I think its just a matter of time before the South Koreans get an AAS type of setup. They have the shipbuilding to do something on their own, and have the money to add the B version to the A's they already have purchased. I think Japan and South Korea will build an AAS type setup that is similar to ...
by brar_w
21 May 2014 05:44
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

Costs.Current ests.for the JSF are $110-130m Cost is a relative term. What other 5th gen options are available for a potential Navy? A 85-100 Million dollar F-35A and B variant at full rate of production is an extremely competitive price given what other western fighters are selling for (eurofighte...
by brar_w
20 May 2014 10:48
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

From what I've read the current lhdS cannot accommodate the jsf without serious mods. The design can however be easily upgraded for such aircraft for future versions should Japan wish to actually have a mini carrier. The advantages of a mini transitional or interim carrier in the Pacific are huge. N...
by brar_w
20 May 2014 06:11
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

Australia may order the F-35B on top of the 72 F-35's Defence Minister David Johnston told The Weekend West _the Government was considering buying the "B" model of the F-35 - a specialised variant of the stealth jet being built to operate from aircraft carriers.Last month, Australia commit...
by brar_w
20 May 2014 05:52
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.
Replies: 183
Views: 8197

Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Shourie - Commerce minister, Jaitley - Finance Minister, Modi - Defense Minister, and Rajnath : Home Minister. CNN IBN is reporting this morning that MM Joshi is expected to be the next raksha mantri.. :x and Jaitley as EAM..
by brar_w
19 May 2014 19:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.
Replies: 183
Views: 8197

Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

@ Phillip, CNO of the US Navy's position is based on years and billions of investments in tactical data links, SATCOM and and things like NIFC-CA where the constant development of sensors and weapons have occurred even before the technology is ready and operational. The SM6 for example has a range f...
by brar_w
19 May 2014 16:24
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.
Replies: 183
Views: 8197

Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

I want: Brar_w ji, Very good post. To me Rafale deal has always been suspect. As you said a thorough analysis will introduce much needed clarity whether it is actually needed or if better/equivalent substitutes can be be procured at far lesser cost. I think the rafale is a great multi role fighter....
by brar_w
19 May 2014 09:14
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.
Replies: 183
Views: 8197

Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

I hope Modi and whomsoever he chooses as raksha mantri do not shy away from a near term "capability shortfall" when addressing long term strategic acquisition, development and strategy for the armed forces. I'd rather take a capability gap in the near term, then be forced with a broken str...
by brar_w
19 May 2014 08:25
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.
Replies: 183
Views: 8197

Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

I want: * A complete analysis on doubling or tripling the LCA production line * A cost vs capability analysis (a transparent one perhaps) on the rafale vs a mix of LCA and Mki's * A cost vs capability analysis of the entire rafale deal vs in house production of super MKI's * MOD investments and stak...
by brar_w
19 May 2014 07:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

18K for the size of a F-16 or so. Data points: And, add to that the next gen engine is being designed to be 25% more efficient + greater thrust. And, this "6th Gen" engine is expected to be ready when the "definitive" engine for the PAK-FA will be ready. A point often overlooked...
by brar_w
19 May 2014 05:44
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

18,483 lbs.!? That's huge. I used to fill up A-4M's at 10,000lbs of fuel. And that was with two drop tanks full. The F-35 is expected to do what the F-16 blk 50/52's do with CFT's and/or huge external drop tanks on internal fuel and then quite a bit on top of that. The main boost comes from the hug...
by brar_w
18 May 2014 12:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 665901

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

The F-22 entered Low rate of production (not prototypes being hand made, but industrial production from an actual production line) some 14 years ago (iirc) with full mission systems, 5th gen propulsion and early block software. It soon began development testing and achieved IOC clearance some 4 year...
by brar_w
15 May 2014 20:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 665901

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

Is there a non-basic definition? Or a complex one? Is there a definition by nation? Or Air Force? The first time such a definition appeared was during the early 90's as the programs like the ATF were in early phases. I guess the modern use became common due to the f-22 and the yf 23 programs where ...
by brar_w
13 May 2014 10:54
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 665901

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

* Secondly, as it relates to the F-35, the best I have come across (from LM) is that the F-35 is slightly better than a loaded 4/4.5 gen plane and will beat any plane. And, the latest from Gen. Bogdan states it very clearly (I find this very funny and strange that when he had so much -ve to state p...
by brar_w
13 May 2014 10:10
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

As far as NGJ integration is concerned, if the USAF/USMC want it they'll get it, there are no fundamental constraints against it. Alternatively, they might find the APG-81 adequate for EW tasks. EW capability will be available starting with the Block 3F and the capability will no doubt be enhanced ...
by brar_w
13 May 2014 08:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

The ASQ-239 is a defensive suite. It doesn't come anywhere close to the ALQ-218/ALQ-99/INCANS combo, especially one that is mounted on a dedicated airframe. As for the NGJ, we shall see. It is a long way off, and as of now, and there has been little beyond a news blurb regarding F-35 integration. I...
by brar_w
13 May 2014 08:42
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

It's easy to blame "sequestration" for all ills,but the underlining truth of the word is "unaffordable" for whatever purpose Now that the 1 Trillion Dollar Myth has been busted we can continue to discuss this in a civil manner. Sequestration does have a key role to play. The USN...
by brar_w
13 May 2014 08:28
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 665901

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

Getting AESA is not the issue here. AESA's have been flying on US fighters even prior to the F-22 IOC. The main issues with 5th gen (and 5th gen + avionics) is Systems integration. This is the achilles heal of cutting edge weapons systems as has been shown to cause bothersome delays and technical ch...
by brar_w
13 May 2014 08:28
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

The USAF however is planning to use over a thousand stealthy F-35s, 185 F-22's, B-2's, UAV's, UCAV's and 150 or so Next Generation Bomber, therefore for them standoff EW is not required as the stealth RF target is extremely low (Massive reduction in SAM rings) and that the USAF can tackle with inbu...
by brar_w
11 May 2014 18:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 665901

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

The range of PAK FA is 5500 km: Sukhoi PAK FA Engine types Saturn AL-31 Saturn AL-41 Turbofan Top speed 2,135 km/h Length 20 m Wingspan 14 m Range 5,500 km Weight 18,500 kg Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor Engine Pratt & Whitney F119 Top speed 2,410 km/h Length 19 m Wingspan 14 m Range 2,960 km Manu...
by brar_w
11 May 2014 12:09
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 665901

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

Yes,it is the most expensive fighter programme in history.Becoming unaffordable in large numbers-read the latest post in the JSF td. about the USN cutting orders by almost 50% for 2015,36 instead of 69.A trillion indeed for the whole programme.Lovely use of a lot of money that could be spent more m...
by brar_w
11 May 2014 12:01
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

This report,though a trifle old,spells out the USN's dilemma.How much progress has been made since that report,is illustrated by the fact that the USN's JSF 2015 procurement numbers have dropped....by almost 50%,36 instead of 69! (http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/ ... px?ID=1436) Do you even ...
by brar_w
11 May 2014 11:57
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

Absolutely,"the proof of the pudding is in the eating".Whether it be the JSF,FGFA or any other bird But it is clearly not. You treat the completely OPEN auditing, transparent media including a sizable tabloid defense media as proof of a failed program. Yet you view an OPAQUE, secretive pr...
by brar_w
11 May 2014 10:57
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

LM can only tout their bird to prevent the programme from tanking Yes tanking for sure. They do not need to tout it. It is securing orders from multiple nations and inter services in America. Its even managed to win 3 customers outside of the program even before the first version has IOC'd. In fact...
by brar_w
11 May 2014 08:10
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

So, Boeing says something technical, LM counter technical. The real problem - of course - is funding, a non-technical problem The discussion (hypothetically of course) Boeing: F-35's stealth inadequate, its jamming not as extensive as the growler Lockheed: US Department of defense sent us Stealth r...
by brar_w
11 May 2014 07:04
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?
Replies: 2467
Views: 119590

Re: JSF,"turkey or talisman"?

Of course Boeing want to sell more Growlers,etc.,taking advantage of the JSF's perceived weaknesses,esp in EW,WVR combat ,etc. JSF's perceived weakness is not a weakness at all. If you try to study the matter the approach USN is wanting it does not apply to the F-35, F-35 only shows up in Boeing's ...

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