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by ramana
04 Mar 2004 10:13
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 02 Mar 2004
Replies: 326
Views: 62243

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 02 Mar 2004

Making a nuke weapon is not assimple as outsourcing the components.
The game was to have bogus enrichment facility via TSP and get real working weapons from China.
Guys lets not get carried away. In the end truth shall prevail. ,In Telugu 'chere moorkuni manasu ranjimpa radu; pemmaya singhdi mani'
by ramana
04 Mar 2004 03:30
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 02 Mar 2004
Replies: 326
Views: 62243

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 02 Mar 2004

Any ideas where the older thread is? Its not in the trash can archive.
Thanks, ramana
by ramana
03 Mar 2004 03:38
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

There are 84 refs to Samuel Baid in google. He seems to be prolific writer.

Google search results on Samuel Baid
by ramana
03 Mar 2004 01:52
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

Pioneer Op-Ed.... in Foray section.. America's terms for silence Samuel Baid On February 4, 2004, Dr AQ Khan, the father of Pakistan's nuclear bomb, apologised for himself and on behalf of his junior colleagues for their errors of judgement in proliferation of nuclear technology and appealed for Pre...
by ramana
28 Feb 2004 01:17
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

Tim, One way would be to see if there are any Space Imaging shots of Chagai II? Since the May 30th tests were in vertical shafts they would leave craters. Am sure the experts at LLNL would have looked at it. Check with Perkovich or Carey Sublette of FAS?
by ramana
27 Feb 2004 23:06
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

Something is not right. For years, Pakistan focused on making weapons out of highly enriched uranium, using centrifuge enrichment technology that Dr. Khan stole from Europe, improved in his laboratories and ultimately began to sell. The North Koreans, meanwhile, focused on plutonium, producing a few...
by ramana
27 Feb 2004 22:35
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

shiv, the May 30th test was detected by seismographs. It was in the low 4s and matched the last Chinese test. All this was discussed in my PU sample at Chagai article which is now lost in the BR Archives. The buried device was at POKII. It was recovered by BARC. I dont recall any Paki stuff being un...
by ramana
27 Feb 2004 11:19
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

Jasjit Singh on AXK.... Atomic Agent ----------------------- Atomic Agent JASJIT SINGH THE city of Bhopal has been home to many illustrious Pakistanis. Former foreign secretary Shaharyar Khan is one; Abdul Qadeer Khan, eulogised as the ‘‘father’’ of Pakistan’s nuclear bomb, another. Qadeer, we now k...
by ramana
27 Feb 2004 11:09
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

jargun all the text please. BRF was the first one to say that TSP tested somebody else nuke on May 30th. Too bad all our archives got trashed. I remember Tim was surprized and even George Perkovich was claiming it was Pu from Pokhran had drifted. This is scoop of first order. Wait for them to admit ...
by ramana
27 Feb 2004 10:28
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

Steve Shagan "Pillars of Fire"
by ramana
27 Feb 2004 07:58
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

Rangadu, On May 30th soon after the Ras Koh hills test, CNN interviewed Gobar. He was ecstatic about that test more than the earlier May 28th one. From the low yield I figured that May 30 was payload for the Hatf/ M11 etc which was more needed for operationalizing their stuff. The heavier model is p...
by ramana
27 Feb 2004 07:16
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

Ah so! Calvin thanks for the summary. What was the CHIC -4 design? It was a HEU implosion design not Pu. needs much less HEU than the gun type. So it was a big advance when it came out. The NYT reference to Nagasaki is to the technique not the asli maal. I am going to print these refs that you poste...
by ramana
26 Feb 2004 21:30
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

From this article Andrew Koch acquired a AXK/KRL brochure advertising its wares in Novemebr 2000. When Pakistan opened its first international arms exhibition in the port city of Karachi, something was amiss. It was November 2000 and there, among defence industry stalls offering tanks, missiles and ...
by ramana
26 Feb 2004 20:56
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

Calvin, I think your are on the right track about the AXK proliferation hungama. What is known is that he and the TSP proliferated the centrifuge technology and weapons designs that were acquired or got gratis. The important thing is even if the Western European countries provided the wherewithal to...
by ramana
26 Feb 2004 03:48
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

Rye asks: So who is this Kishore Kuchibhotla, I wonder. From google he is a graduate of MIT class of 2002 - astrophysics?. He has particpated in many seminars on intl relations etc while at MIT. He appears to have written stuff for Henry Stimson Center. From what I can make out he is an intellectual...
by ramana
26 Feb 2004 00:29
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

You know all this Shakepearean talk reminds me of another play. The lack of US reaction to AXK's shenanigans is "Much Ado About Nothing"
by ramana
24 Feb 2004 02:03
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

The way I see it. AXK proliferation was enabling technology to axis of evil countries - Libya, Iran and North Korea. The trail not followed is the PAEC's Bashir Ahmed's proliferation to alq/oble. This is probably of the type that Jose Padilla was involved in. THe RATs consider the jihadi/Army of Isl...
by ramana
24 Feb 2004 00:14
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

Calvin, There is a report in Friday Times about Mushy's visit to Karachi. The story appears mundane but could be deeper.... Musharraf averted crisis in Sindh Advertise Here Mazhar Abbas The MQM wants Musharraf to dismiss the city government and call for early elections; that may not happen too soon ...
by ramana
23 Feb 2004 23:30
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

Sunil, That quote from Shakespeare shows how well rounded the education system is in India and also reflects on how you used your time for self improvement. Also by extension how well acquainted the members here are.
by ramana
21 Feb 2004 01:20
Forum: Military Exercises Archive
Topic: Operation Parakram: An Analysis
Replies: 163
Views: 60444

Re: Operation Parakram: An Analysis

From Pioneer book reviews... Present shining, Future glowing Sidharth Mishra says Gen Padmanabhan's experience at the helm of affairs in the Indian Army lends his narrative an authenticity and makes his book a very absorbing read Several years ago, while studying at the Rashtriya Indian Military Col...
by ramana
21 Feb 2004 01:03
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

Rudra Singha Member Member # 3011 posted 20 February 2004 12:07 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Its quite possible credible proof of possession of dirty bomb (like a small radioactive sample in lead case) has been passed onto US diplomats in Pak vi...
by ramana
20 Feb 2004 23:30
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian NCA formalized
Replies: 82
Views: 27290

Re: Indian NCA formalized

A few things clear from the spate of stories about TSP proliferation are: TSP proliferated centrifuge technology to Libya, Iran, And North Korea TSP proliferated UF6 to Iran. This is the feedstock for the enrichment program. TSP provided supplier lists for hardawre for centrifuge technology - Wester...
by ramana
20 Feb 2004 21:45
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004
Replies: 334
Views: 68661

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 20 Feb 2004

FWIW from newsinsight.net...... US to safeguard Pak nukes 20 February 2004: While the United States has no intention to denuke Pakistan, it is pressing for installation of safeguard command-and-control systems in all its nuclear facilities, and president George W.Bush has approved a special grant fo...
by ramana
20 Feb 2004 04:35
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian NCA formalized
Replies: 82
Views: 27290

Re: Indian NCA formalized

AD good catch! I still dont get it. Why specialize on India while there is a whole world out there?
SV could be a Japan scholar or Europe scholar why India?
by ramana
19 Feb 2004 23:29
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian NCA formalized
Replies: 82
Views: 27290

Re: Indian NCA formalized

Rediff might have printed it based on the MIIS connection. Rememeber Gaurav Kampani was also from there and often published in ReDiff. My surprise is how did a DOO get on Senate committee and most probably he doesnt have citizenship. He just doesnt have the required time in the US. Could be due to h...
by ramana
19 Feb 2004 22:01
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian NCA formalized
Replies: 82
Views: 27290

Re: Indian NCA formalized

Now a Oracle operator takes up nonprolif studies and aims at India...

Sundara Vadlamudi- Resume

Something is not right here cant put my finger on it.
by ramana
19 Feb 2004 07:33
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004
Replies: 333
Views: 63654

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004

So how are things in Naidu land? What does aam janata think about the TSP nuke madness? Could you get the take from any Daily Siasat or Rahenuma- e -Deccan? ---------- The centrifuge technology was developed in early 70s was good enough for reactor grade fuel. Were the Germans proofing the higher en...
by ramana
19 Feb 2004 00:09
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004
Replies: 333
Views: 63654

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004

But all this talk of Openheimer begs the question. Espionage is not proliferation as TSP elite is making out to be.
by ramana
17 Feb 2004 20:50
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004
Replies: 333
Views: 63654

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004

The early Chinese program was based on gas diffusion process similar to Project Manhattan. Then they also developed from Russian sources the Pu reactor technology. They had a two track approach. Same as Manhattan Project. The URENCO/Pak-I centrifuge is an Aluminum sub critical speed rotor- it whirls...
by ramana
17 Feb 2004 04:29
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004
Replies: 333
Views: 63654

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004

These are my thoughts on TSP's shenanigans. TSP got its enrichment hardware from Western Europe especially Germany. It got the associated electrial components from Canada, Britain and the US. All this is proscribed hardware. The individuals knew what it was ment for. TSP got its weapon designs from ...
by ramana
13 Feb 2004 09:22
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004
Replies: 333
Views: 63654

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004

Any new info about Chagai yield from the experts?
by ramana
13 Feb 2004 02:44
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004
Replies: 333
Views: 63654

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004

Tell me BRF didnt figure this one out: Qadeer has been ascribed almost supernatural qualities in the public imagination. The most extreme belief that I have heard in the last few weeks was that Qadeer actually gave Zulfikar Ali Bhutto the idea of making an atom bomb, even though the idea had been pr...
by ramana
12 Feb 2004 22:36
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004
Replies: 333
Views: 63654

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004

Looks like Mike is disillusioned with the non-prolif razza (raid) he was waging. Little did he realize his razza was mere tool in the US big jihad(struggle) to gain dominance. he should go back to academia and delude more people.
by ramana
12 Feb 2004 22:29
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004
Replies: 333
Views: 63654

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004

R, Better to get a new regime in place than join a failed one. The NMD and the new treaty are signposts of naya yug. Same with Sec Council after POKII India has defacto veto power. There is a reason why those two acceded in 1990s. By then they had proliferated to their hearts content. France may sou...
by ramana
12 Feb 2004 21:59
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004
Replies: 333
Views: 63654

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004

The NPT was formulated for a different era. Its main goal was to prevent West Germany and Japan getting the bomb. India was a drive by shooting victim that has recovered. TSP getting the bomb was power politics by China and US. The NPT is not sufficient for the post Cold War world. A new treay / reg...
by ramana
12 Feb 2004 21:23
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004
Replies: 333
Views: 63654

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004

Some Issues: 1) How did TSp peddle China's designs to third parties? Was there no end use controls put in by China or was it with their assent? 2) The prolif supply chain always originated in Western Europe. Were these folks proofing their systems in TSP? Its always German hardware at the core. Sort...
by ramana
12 Feb 2004 09:10
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004
Replies: 333
Views: 63654

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004

That Oakley quote & the US laison committee putting authorizing codes onover 40 weapons is diturbing noting that the TSP's stated target is India. If they are worried about loose nukes falling into extremist hands xhouldnt they corral them or better yet take them out? Otherwise India would have ...
by ramana
12 Feb 2004 04:04
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004
Replies: 333
Views: 63654

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 11 Feb 2004

We should summarize what is now known about the TSP program from all these revelations. Otherwise collecting all these prolif tamasha is just that. What does all this mean to India and then the rest of the world?
by ramana
12 Feb 2004 00:47
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 07 Feb 2004
Replies: 354
Views: 68263

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 07 Feb 2004

Pravin Sawhney wonders..... Mysterious Dr Q Mysterious Dr Q Pravin Sawhney The US-Pakistan-India triangle never ceases to surprise. Just when the world concluded that this time President Musharraf had landed himself in the quicksand of nuclear proliferation, he proved that he indeed had nine lives. ...
by ramana
12 Feb 2004 00:23
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 07 Feb 2004
Replies: 354
Views: 68263

Re: Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation - 07 Feb 2004

Thanks Tim. Lets touch base after the speech.

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