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by ramana
20 Jun 2002 21:40
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism
Replies: 33
Views: 13729

Re: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism

The Jihad conquests article is interesting for two reasons. Inspite of globalization it has a narrow focus on Judeo-Christians and ignores the Hindus who suffered equally if not more under jihad. The Hindus were treated worse than dhimmis as they were not of the book. The compromise of the Middle ag...
by ramana
20 Jun 2002 21:02
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism
Replies: 33
Views: 13729

Re: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism

For sake of completeness. ramana Member Member # 356 posted 20 June 2002 10:21 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- National Review: Our Ally, our problem ----------------------------------------- June 18, 2002 8:45 a.m. Our Ally, Our Problem Pakistan i...
by ramana
20 Jun 2002 10:18
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism
Replies: 33
Views: 13729

Re: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism

Arun, While the Khilafat movement was marignal in its impact on restoring it in Turkey (yes the Turkish emporer took that title and it was being abolished by Attaturk) it had a seminal impact on some Indian muslims and served to rally them under a unifying cause. htis was later converted not the mov...
by ramana
19 Jun 2002 23:56
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism
Replies: 33
Views: 13729

Pakistan - Epicenter of Terrorism

The state of Pakistan came into existence on August 14, 1947 after Partition from British India. Since its formation it has embarked on a collision course with India. In addition to starting three wars, the Kargil war like situation it has carried on a proxy war in Kashmir and supported terrorists m...
by ramana
18 Jun 2002 21:33
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indo-US Operations in J&K
Replies: 27
Views: 11521

Re: Indo-US Operations in J&K

The UPI link is provided here: Analysis: Al Qaida's privileged sanctuary "The latest reports from Pakistan are ringing alarm bells throughout the Western intelligence community. Disinformation about U.S. intentions is being circulated by "midlevel" Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency operatives...
by ramana
12 Jun 2002 22:52
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled
Replies: 114
Views: 43291

Re: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled

Thanks Nandu. So Dowd was calling it a red herring! Kudos sunil. We bow to thee and Umrao jaan.
Aside for UJ. If you werent so prolific with your witticisms we would have understood your message earlier. And I did tell you this in your other avatars!!!
by ramana
12 Jun 2002 22:13
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled
Replies: 114
Views: 43291

Re: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled

Thanks a lot Rak. And hats of the Sunil for thinking the situation through and wonderng about red herrings.
What are 'head fakes'? Does she mean head shakes implying that Z is shaking his head in response to questions? Or something else all together.
by ramana
12 Jun 2002 22:06
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled
Replies: 114
Views: 43291

Re: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled

Sunil I heard on NPR that Maureen Dowd has a column in NY Times(June 12, 2002) where she thinks that this Muhajir guy was set up by Al Zubeydah. So maybe he sacrificed a pawn (goat) to protect a higher piece?
Can anyvone post full text of this column please?
by ramana
10 Jun 2002 22:18
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled
Replies: 114
Views: 43291

Re: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled

Umrao yes you have been telling about this for a long time. In fact in the Pak nuke thread you made a post on June 7th about the dangers of a suitcase thing from Pakistan and how Tim had poohpoohed us. So you were ahead of the curve. I should have made myself clear that jash was the one to make the ...
by ramana
10 Jun 2002 21:11
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled
Replies: 114
Views: 43291

Re: Pakistani plot to explode dirty nuke foiled

jash is right. This is no AlQ/OBL operation. Training in radioactive compounds is involeved. It means the TSP govt agencies are involved no matter what the spin is. Rememeber the scientists connected to TSP establishment who were OBL sympathizers? All this points to one thing the nightmare scenario ...
by ramana
06 Jun 2002 10:07
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: A trip down Bharat-Rakshak memory lane.....
Replies: 100
Views: 40616

Re: A trip down Bharat-Rakshak memory lane.....

George Please re-send. Thanks, ramana
by ramana
06 Jun 2002 00:16
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: A trip down Bharat-Rakshak memory lane.....
Replies: 100
Views: 40616

Re: A trip down Bharat-Rakshak memory lane.....

Sure its ramana56@hotmail
Can you believe they already had so many of them!
by ramana
05 Jun 2002 01:46
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: A trip down Bharat-Rakshak memory lane.....
Replies: 100
Views: 40616

Re: A trip down Bharat-Rakshak memory lane.....

Georgemj please give chetan our regards and we do miss him. I remember his views on seeking Israel's help in taking out the Kahuta and manny other stuff. I also rememeber his remark about the importance of 1990 and Sumdrung Chu. and if you want to contact me use the private e-mail icon.
by ramana
22 May 2002 23:01
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

Raja Ram thanks for the nice summation. Yes there was total blankout of PK-II. All we know is its start and end dates. And approx. location 150 km from border so no need to notify anyone. I also note the difference between '71 and now that you have pointed out. Last time it was Mrs. IG who had to go...
by ramana
21 May 2002 22:19
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

Soon after Kargil ABV was asked about the NFU in an interview. He said to paraphrase offcourse we wont be sitting around when we detect signs of preparation by the otherside but will honor the NFU. It was taken to mean that if India gets to know that TSP is readying its arsenal then India will go af...
by ramana
21 May 2002 20:36
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

GF rushing back is obviously due to Lone's killing by TSP terrorists in Kashmir.
by ramana
17 May 2002 22:30
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Understanding INSAS
Replies: 176
Views: 42328

Re: Understanding INSAS

rahuls thats a fair assessment.
Raj, can we please now have an article on the INSAS?
by ramana
15 May 2002 02:33
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

From The Telegraph on PK-II May 14, 02: http://www.telegraphindia.com/national.htm#head9 BORDERS BRISTLE WITH FRESH WAR GAMES FROM SUJAN DUTTA New Delhi, May 13: A series of manoeuvres by Indian armed forces over and above its deployment under Operation Parakram has worried the global community led ...
by ramana
14 May 2002 01:40
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pak nukes activation during Kargil crisis - Discussion
Replies: 29
Views: 10074

Re: Pak nukes activation during Kargil crisis - Discussion

I think the Indian press reports have put a different spin on the Bruce Reidel report. He in essence says that the TSP Army activated its nuke forces wihtout the knowledge of the electd politcal authority - Nawaz Sharif. If this is not a rogue operation I dont know what is. It clearly shows that the...
by ramana
12 May 2002 23:36
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pak nukes activation during Kargil crisis - Discussion
Replies: 29
Views: 10074

Re: Pak nukes activation during Kargil crisis - Discussion

I dont know about that. We already know that during Kargil India did activate its necessary deterrent. See teh BRF archive. This 'leak' will not deter India from what it decides to do. Also Bruce Reidel is writing his memoirs and that is why the paper is coming out. BTW, India Abroad(May 4th issue h...
by ramana
12 May 2002 23:09
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pak nukes activation during Kargil crisis - Discussion
Replies: 29
Views: 10074

Re: Pak nukes activation during Kargil crisis - Discussion

"Pakistan’s uranium bombs are designed to be dropped by plane or carried by Ghauri missiles, while smaller plutonium warheads can be attached to Chinese-made M-11 missiles." See how easily they slip in the damaging evidence in the news item. Khusab reactor went critical in October 1998 and the tests...
by ramana
12 May 2002 21:43
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Pak nukes activation during Kargil crisis - Discussion
Replies: 29
Views: 10074

Pak nukes activation during Kargil crisis - Discussion

Times of India has a report quoting Sunday Times that the Pakistani Army had activated their nukes during Kargil and without the Prime Minister knowing that. This is based on first person account of Bruce Reidel in a forthcoming paper at Center for Advanced Study of India at Uty of Pennsylvania(upen...
by ramana
10 May 2002 02:43
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

Whats amazing is the total blackout on the PK-II exercise leaving us to flail in vain. I have been looking at regional sections of the English language press but no success.
by ramana
09 May 2002 23:25
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Indianness - a (simple?) survey
Replies: 117
Views: 42270

Re: Indianness - a (simple?) survey

krs thanks for the self criticism. I would like to suggest the same traits are exhibited by most societies still low on the economic ladder. Given more time and growth these will diminish. Some on said India is a like a snake with its head in the 21 century and the tail in the 17th. So the paln is t...
by ramana
09 May 2002 03:09
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: A trip down Bharat-Rakshak memory lane.....
Replies: 100
Views: 40616

Re: A trip down Bharat-Rakshak memory lane.....

Maybe should post names that we miss...
1) Faheem
2) Salman
3) Chetan/Unknown
4) Ronjon Dasgupta from Germany
by ramana
09 May 2002 02:44
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: A trip down Bharat-Rakshak memory lane.....
Replies: 100
Views: 40616

Re: A trip down Bharat-Rakshak memory lane.....

I once sent GD an e-mail to change his handle to more realistic one. He assured he would by and by. I noticed that his posts were getting better as time went by and so didnt pursue the matter. No wonder the saying goes "Namo Namah" he couldnt continue to make fatous posts with a handle like that. So...
by ramana
08 May 2002 04:01
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

GD on should try with available resources and not unobtanium. See what you can plan with the ~850 a/c that IAF has. And dont know how many Prithvis are there. Say the 333 full load only.
by ramana
08 May 2002 01:58
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

Vikram your comment the GOI should show similar pro-active thinking is quite illuminating. In the past it has shown that. During '71 war it had only one battalion facing the PLA. However it had ~13 squadrons dedicated for that effort. One thing to think about is there can be no sudden shift of air a...
by ramana
07 May 2002 23:46
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Indianness - a (simple?) survey
Replies: 117
Views: 42270

Re: Indianness - a (simple?) survey

The progress of Inglish: Yeh dil maange more...of Indian English "To help spearhead the evolution of Indian English, the University of Pune’s department of English has for the first time allowed two students to take it up as a research topic for MPhil last year. This year, a subject is propose...
by ramana
07 May 2002 02:43
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

Lots of good thinking going on here. Nitin thanks for the extra info on the subsequent exercises. Vikram Gajraj had air commando operations and might have paradrops too. Yes in all these exercises only the combined arms aspects are shown. Yes it is quite possible that IAF by itself could cross the r...
by ramana
05 May 2002 07:24
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

OK nitin for you my take.... ---------------------- IAF’s Gajraj analyzed In Frontline, Jan 2, 1999, John Cherian writes about the role of IAF in the Indian armed forces exercise Shiv-Shakti’98: “The Air Force played a pivotal role in the exercises. According to a senior Air Force official, 125 comb...
by ramana
04 May 2002 02:53
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

Nitin please google for Exercise/Operation Gajraj circa 1998 held along with Shiv Shakti to get an idea of IAF tempo. I feel that event was not studied here on BR properly. Basically it appears that GOI wants to cream them using IAF and the so called signals on redlines say that is crossing the thre...
by ramana
04 May 2002 00:54
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

I really dont know. But Vij did his duty and I think it was to smoke the other side. Also it had to be senior officer like him or else it would look bad. Also note the move was done knowing that uncle is watching from sky. That it self tells you it was planned. It wasnt the Vij transfer that told th...
by ramana
04 May 2002 00:32
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

Also how do they plan to cross redlines while the US troops are in place for the OBL chase? By mobilizing in Jan '02 India showed that it was quite willing to take the fight into TSP. And the US vacated the bases give to it during GWOT/GOAT(BR term) and its naval patrols went back to the Persian Gul...
by ramana
03 May 2002 02:29
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

TOI: India begins war games on Pak border Note its an AFP report so will be on yahoo et al. JODHPUR: India on Thursday began military exercises with thousands of combat troops near the border with Pakistan. An Army spokesman said that the Army would conduct the exercises with support from the Air Fo...
by ramana
03 May 2002 02:13
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

Gd lets get serious now. Rummaging countryside takes away time from job at hand besides the Indian version of MLRE sounds quite tempting. Read the Saink Samachar April 2002 issues. Crossing the redline. The TSP has intimated its US interlocutors(Cohen especially) that it would go after an advancing ...
by ramana
03 May 2002 00:59
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

Random thoughts... The Italian scholars report (Landau Network) indicated that the SPD thought that a destruction of their warmaking assets would be a redline. Even Ahrari in his Asia Times article thought that the TSP doctrine was First Use (FU) if the Intl boundary was crossed. So maybe PK-II is t...
by ramana
02 May 2002 03:03
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front
Replies: 173
Views: 53500

Re: Parakram II: all services excercise on western front

The Hindu: Army raising second artillery division NEW DELHI MAY 1. The Indian Army is currently raising its second artillery division to ensure better deployment of this powerful fighting arm in the plains. The process began about two months ago and is expected to be completed soon. The new division...

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