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by shiv
25 Apr 2002 10:11
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Indianness - a (simple?) survey
Replies: 117
Views: 49384

Indianness - a (simple?) survey

Are you Indian? If yes, why do you say that? What makes you Indian? What constitutes Indianness? If this question is easy to answer, let me ratchet up the difficulty level and ask you to put yourself in someone else's shoes and answer the following: a)You are a Muslim from North India. Your family i...
by shiv
04 Apr 2002 18:54
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Understanding INSAS
Replies: 176
Views: 48631

Re: Understanding INSAS

Originally posted by Rudra Singha: using the same size of bullet are there any options to increase the damage with a new design? Hey Rudra - increase damage to what? Tissue damage in humans is pretty severe in any hi velocity injury. You may have seen slowed down x-ray videos of anesthetized sheep ...
by shiv
20 Mar 2002 23:37
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Understanding INSAS
Replies: 176
Views: 48631

Re: Understanding INSAS

Originally posted by rupak: Since everyone has already had a sneak preview. Perhaps we should exclude the Defexpo Photofeature from the BRM. Not so sure about this. Personally - i think the forum links and dioscussions are seen only by a few. The monitor is more longterm and more of an archive - an...
by shiv
20 Mar 2002 18:28
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Understanding INSAS
Replies: 176
Views: 48631

Re: Understanding INSAS

Originally posted by ukhrul:
The INSAS is a really beautiful and attractive gun!
One more:

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/defexpo/d02insas.jpg
by shiv
19 Mar 2002 17:12
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Understanding INSAS
Replies: 176
Views: 48631

Re: Understanding INSAS

I can't resist this - and since Raj sent the pics and the brochures and the report let me give you guys a sneak preview of one of 100 odd defexpo pictures.

INSAS - night scope, black furniture.
www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/defexpo/rajinscope2.jpg
by shiv
16 Mar 2002 07:38
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Understanding INSAS
Replies: 176
Views: 48631

Re: Understanding INSAS

Thanks for the super write up - I have learned something here. This material really needs to go into a more permanent place.
by shiv
09 Feb 2002 09:34
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 3)
Replies: 25
Views: 11866

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 3)

Back to Sunil's question from the old thread.<p>Did the Agni test really aggravate Pakistan more than previous tests or Naval missile tests?<p>Perhaps some clues here - though there is no reference to the Agni test - and sorry for cross posting again - but it's an interesting theory (never mind if i...
by shiv
09 Feb 2002 04:30
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Amitabh: This seems to be a simple reaction with the obvious objective of easing the pressure on Pakistan. It's still unclear to me what discussing Pakistan's "psyche" adds to our understanding of the response to ...
by shiv
08 Feb 2002 05:17
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Amitabh: "It's the timing, stupid."<p> Pakistan wants to make India look like an aggressor. <hr></blockquote><p>Yes. Timing definitely has something to do with it.<p>But you have yourself stated something that bri...
by shiv
08 Feb 2002 04:26
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Gerard: <p>The Jews have an expression "self hating Jew". Pakistanis are self hating Indians. <hr></blockquote><p>Beautiful and interesting.<p>Long ago on the forum I had described Pakistan as India gone bad - but...
by shiv
08 Feb 2002 04:22
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by sunil sainis: <p>My impression is that the Pakistani leadership has been `rational' post 1971 in that they have accepted the reality that the conventional imbalance cannot be redressed. This has not however made t...
by shiv
07 Feb 2002 19:49
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

Sunil - I am sure that all nuclear weapon armed states would like to predict a situation in which "breakdown of deterrence" would occur. <p>I get the general impression that Pakistani leaders after 1965 have been "rational" in that they have distanced themselves from direct military assault on India...
by shiv
07 Feb 2002 18:26
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by sunil sainis: Hi, <p> Shiv, So if i understand you right, this is `psychology' stuff, i.e. the pakistanis want to be seen `responding' to the indian weapons test but they can't so their `policy and opinion makers'...
by shiv
07 Feb 2002 05:52
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by kgoan: the Paks never expected to face India's full force. India's ambitions to look beyond Pakistan, without ever "solving" that problem, gave them a bit of security. <hr></blockquote><p>Spot on kgoan<p>Sorry - b...
by shiv
07 Feb 2002 04:28
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by sunil sainis: Hi,<p>(apropos to a conversation with Rupak) I am still juggling with the reason for the Pakistani angst over the Agni SR. <p> <hr></blockquote><p>Sunil, Thinking about your thoughts.<p>Actually, it ...
by shiv
06 Feb 2002 06:54
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by chuckles: Hi guys,<p> I just have a simple question..does India have the hydrogen bomb or the capacity <hr></blockquote><p>Chuckles <p>Two things:<p>1)The answer to your question is here<p> http://www.bharat-raksh...
by shiv
06 Feb 2002 04:42
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by George J: I know its early in the morning...but i think my eyes are playing tricks with me!!!<p>Are these pics of the same missiles or something's amiss...besides my caffine?<p> <hr></blockquote><p>George - the "p...
by shiv
05 Feb 2002 05:50
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by subbu: Can a version of Agni be launched from say AN-32 (or perhaps a bigger transport plane)? (am clueless as to the dimensions of the cargo bay of AN-32), extending the range by about 500km using the Air launche...
by shiv
04 Feb 2002 18:42
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

Umrao Jaan - I did not have a compass big enough to draw an arc on a huge map (Zilch engg tools anywhere near me) - I marked the dots by hand using a scale, scanned the image and added the other stuff later.<p>Hence the crooked curve - which should have been a proper arc.
by shiv
04 Feb 2002 18:17
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

OK Sanjay, this is a special for you:<p>The image shows a Map of part of India and China. Beijing is marked on the map. <p>An Isometric line joining spots equidistant from Beijing are maked on the map, and a little inset marks out only the states through which the 2500 Km, 3000 Km, 3500 Km and 3700 ...
by shiv
04 Feb 2002 12:21
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by peeyoosh chadda: Sanjay<p>Biejing to New Delhi is around 3700 km., if that helps.<p>Use : http://russia.shaps.hawaii.edu/ap-distance-calc.html <p>Peeyoosh <hr></blockquote><p>Hey - this link says 3268 Km not 3700 ...
by shiv
31 Jan 2002 04:13
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by ramana: Pioneer report:[url=http://www.dailypioneer.com/secon2.asp?cat=\story6&d=FRONT_PAGE]Army chief to clear Prithvi deployment[/url]<p> The Government also ordered that Prithvi missiles will only carry con...
by shiv
30 Jan 2002 12:41
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr> http://www.indiadefence.com/2strike.htm <p>India embarked on the 150 km Prithvi missile development programme in 1983. The rich experience of the Navy in the 1971 war in the maintenance of Styx liquid fuelled missiles was studied by ...
by shiv
28 Jan 2002 08:46
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)
Replies: 241
Views: 62815

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 2)

If, in theory, India were to test a cruise missile in a year's time - we may well be tempted to ask - OK - so why have we been fooling around with the Prithvi till last year?<p>The answer, as mentioned by ramana in the old thread lies in history and may be read in detail in Raj Chengappa's book, "We...
by shiv
26 Jan 2002 07:00
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)
Replies: 227
Views: 64843

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by paul: <p>this sort of yarn is spun everytime India defies the west. <hr></blockquote><p>Sorry to use this excuse to branch off into my one of my favourite subjects:<p>"India defies the West" is a very interesting ...
by shiv
25 Jan 2002 18:54
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Marshal of the Air Force Arjan Singh, IAF
Replies: 51
Views: 25455

Re: Marshal of the Air Force Arjan Singh, IAF

Good.<p>Better late than never.<p>Don't know if this page will show up - anyhow click below and try your luck . .<p>http://www.geocities.com/thalsena/pages28.jpg
by shiv
25 Jan 2002 18:46
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)
Replies: 227
Views: 64843

Re: Agni-I/SR: Strategic Implications (Thread 1)

The videp clip in the news shows a 2 stage missile - obviously shorter than the Agni we have seen in earlier tests.<p>Heh heh! 700 Km - that should shut a lot of people up. This one is a Pakistan special. Of course the RAPE spokesmen will say that they have no intention to do a tit for tat. That is ...
by shiv
15 Dec 2001 10:41
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Weapons & Equipment for Special Forces
Replies: 36
Views: 27430

Re: Weapons & Equipment for Special Forces

The 9mm submachine gun can be seen in action in a Maratha Light Infantry training video here<BR> <A HREF="http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/clips/roomatak.rm" TARGET=_blank>www.bharat-rakshak.com/clips/roomatak.rm</A> <P>Please do not foregt to also visit the MLIR web page at <A HREF="http://www.roa-mli...
by shiv
15 Dec 2001 10:30
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Weapons & Equipment for Special Forces
Replies: 36
Views: 27430

Re: Weapons & Equipment for Special Forces

In confirmation and acknowledgement of what Mohan Raju says above regarding my confusion of bren and sten, the bren is pictured here<BR> <A HREF="http://www.hidden-and-dangerous2.co.uk/photo/tnbre.jpg" TARGET=_blank>http://www.hidden-and-dangerous2.co.uk/photo/tnbre.jpg</A> <BR>and here <A HREF="htt...
by shiv
15 Dec 2001 07:47
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Weapons & Equipment for Special Forces
Replies: 36
Views: 27430

Re: Weapons & Equipment for Special Forces

A simple Google search for the Kalashnikov and Lee Enfiled 303 gives a lot of variable information, but many speak of an <I>effective range</I> of 300 M for the Kalashnikov assault rifle and 800 M for the 303. <P>Note that both weapons retain their lethality - i.e. they can kill over much longer dis...
by shiv
14 Dec 2001 22:39
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Weapons & Equipment for Special Forces
Replies: 36
Views: 27430

Re: Weapons & Equipment for Special Forces

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mahadev:<BR><STRONG>The point is that in the first ring of security, there is high probability that contact will be established.<P></STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Valid point. And to repeat a question I asked in that...
by shiv
14 Dec 2001 19:24
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Weapons & Equipment for Special Forces
Replies: 36
Views: 27430

Re: Weapons & Equipment for Special Forces

Cross post<BR><A HREF="http://headlines.sify.com/378news2.html" TARGET=_blank>When Sami ullah and Singh rose to the occasion</A><P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> while the terrorists were armed with the deadly AK-47 assault rifles and grenades, the four UP consta...
by shiv
14 Dec 2001 14:47
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Weapons & Equipment for Special Forces
Replies: 36
Views: 27430

Re: Weapons & Equipment for Special Forces

AFAIK - the bren remains a good weapon for close in situations.<P>The 7.62 packs a punch at longer ranges and is accurate - and must not (and cannot) be used for rapid fire spraying like we see Palestinian diwali celebrators do.<P>Someone asked why a policeman took shelter behind a pillar.<P>Two poi...
by shiv
14 Dec 2001 11:21
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Weapons & Equipment for Special Forces
Replies: 36
Views: 27430

Re: Weapons & Equipment for Special Forces

Yesterday I was shot by a 7.62 mm SLR. Nothing happened to me because the gun was old. I picked up a new gun and shot my assailants. <P>Luckily there were two cars waiting. One was a 1985 Maruti and the other was newer - a 1989 Amby. I escaped in the newer car - obviously the better one.
by shiv
12 Nov 2001 10:40
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Who was responsible for Kashmir being taken to the UN?
Replies: 46
Views: 31622

Re: Who was responsible for Kashmir being taken to the UN?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sunil sainis:<BR><STRONG>Arre Bhai,<P>HICAF kis liye hai?</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> I am with Sunil here<P>HICAF= <B>History</B> and Current Affairs Forum.<P>This thread is going there - please continue on HICAF
by shiv
12 Nov 2001 08:38
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Who was responsible for Kashmir being taken to the UN?
Replies: 46
Views: 31622

Re: Who was responsible for Kashmir being taken to the UN?

This link was sent to me in a private message by Karthik Krishnamurty about a month ago<P><A HREF="http://ttp://www.kashmir-information.com/Storm/" TARGET=_blank>Kashmir- the storm center of the world</A><P>Check this chapter: <A HREF="http://www.kashmir-information.com/Storm/chapter8.html" TARGET=_...
by shiv
26 Sep 2001 21:45
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India test-fires indigenous missile [ DHANUSH ]
Replies: 39
Views: 8667

Re: India test-fires indigenous missile [ DHANUSH ]

testing<P>(not a missile, though)
by shiv
21 Sep 2001 21:18
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India test-fires indigenous missile [ DHANUSH ]
Replies: 39
Views: 8667

Re: India test-fires indigenous missile [ DHANUSH ]

This thread certainly makes a welcome change from the oppresive news and events of the last 200 odd hours.
by shiv
12 Aug 2001 10:48
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: The Road to World Power
Replies: 120
Views: 49052

Re: The Road to World Power

Hear Hear victor.<P>good post.
by shiv
10 Aug 2001 19:44
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Aerospace Industry Developments
Replies: 50
Views: 26011

Re: Indian Aerospace Industry Developments

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pankajc:<BR><B>Can somebody tell me who will be the vendors of avionics for LCA? </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Have you read this?<BR> <A HREF="http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/ISSUE3-5/sainis.html" TARGET=_blank>h...

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