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Sunil, Quincy, Badar - could I ask you people to please maintain individual copies of this thread - a lot of work has gone in and it looks archivable - and I wouldn't want it to get "lost" accidentally.

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It may be worth keeping copies of this thread. It will surely need to go into some sort of archive eventually - at least the info about the general.

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Vinodji and Prakash - i think Vinodji's message was a joke related to another thread.However, to avoid misunderstanding, I have deleted both your messages.Regarding the "good pic" - i'ts from the B-R Kargil picture collection.

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Incidentally, similar flash suppressors can be seen on some rifles - eg the Ishapore 7.62. Can't recall if the INSAS has this - it probably does.

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Related to Sukumar's explanation

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I think they're flash suppressors.- aha just saw Sukumar's note - he's probably right.The long barrel bit is interesting. I remember reading about the ideal propellant for any projectile - it should not be a rapid explosive like a warhead, but should burn relatively slowly so that the shell is...

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VishiThis has been discussed time and again hereThe two main reasons are: 1) Proximity of villages preventing a higher yield device being tested - even so house walls cracked2)India's proposed nuclear force does not envisage city-busting megaton nukes

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Here is the news item from today's deccan Herald <A HREF="http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/nov11/natbits.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/nov11/natbits.htm</A> Data confirms Pokhran yield at 50 kt NEW DELHI, Nov 10 (PTI)Post-shot radioactivity measurem...

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Bajirao, I have exchanged a few emails with this person and I asked him if the name Armugham implied a South Indian ancestry. He said no, and said that the name had some Arabic root - I cannot remember the details.

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Somehow this thread seems to be propagating a possible myth that "chain fed" LMGs are "the best"In the absence of any expert comments on this issue I would question the assumption. What is an LMG? What parameters define an LMG?What sub-types do LMGs fall into?What are the models availabl...

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You may be wrong on both counts Ananth There is an article on the INSAS series in the B-R monitor, and a long discussion archives under the military/tech archives.You will get a lot more info from there - but do state your reasons for making this comparison between the "outdated" (how and why?...

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This sounds like another Paki questionThis topic has been discussed to death - and unfortunately for hopeful Pakistanis and others - Pokhran II did work as stated and unlike the duds in Chagai - so there is no need to hope that the Pokhran series may not have worked.In any case the scientific ...

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Great links and info here.A short read through the links will reveal why iron bombs are still important and "concrete bombs" discussed in another thread can only have two possible roles - i.e. validating pinpoint accuracy of smart munition guidance and possibly a very very small role in bunker bu...

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Sachin - you can archive it yourself after deleting this message and yours above.Choose the archive option below when you feel enough replies have come in.

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At midnight on Dec 3rd 1971 as Indy Gandhi finished her address to the nation, MiG 21s from Lohegaon took off and roared right over where we lived in Poona flying towards Bombay. We later heard that it was a false alarm, though a couple of AA batteries are said to have opened up.A memorable...

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The reddish tint to the smoke in the 2nd photo suggests the Nitric acid containing liquid fuel. Any comments Sukumar/Salman/anyone?The following is an interesting statement from an informed person Ballistic missiles can use solid or liquid fuel. They are capable of carrying payloads, includ...

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OCRed from the HinduDEFENCE STRATEGY MUST LOOK BEYOND PRESENT THREATS - PANT (HINDU 2 OCT 1999)India's economic policy should further its defence and foreign ~ policy interests and vice-versa while the country's defence strategy must look beyond present threats and capabilities, the planning C...

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NikhilIt was noticed as early as in the 1965 conflict that planes that do not have swept back wings perform more predictably in the rarified atmosphere at 18000 + feet. If you play with paper or other toy aeroplanes (whose wings basically behave like those of any aeroplane) a broader striaghter w...

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Philip?Wakey wakey! Where are you?

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You're not Philip Fowler in disguise are you? If not, where the hell are you Philip?Philip has been saying this ever since the Kargil crisis began.

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If you look at the issue with the amount of information we forum members have - it would seem that no number of tests is sufficient. And after that no amount of nuke delivery system testing will be adequate. Someone will always want more. Perhaps there is an easy way out - ironically suggested...

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No, India should not test for the following reasons1) A test now would remove all support we have for any issues. It would embarrass the French, Israelis and the Russkies who are quite pally with us nowadays.2) It would mean that all the statement made over that past year and more about having...

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The Pukistanis are talking crap as usual.

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Folks, it's not just the equipment - but how its used - and this statemant has been made on this forum repeatedly without much effect.You cannot compare two hardware items without a whole host of other factors.Just to remind you:34 years ago India was in the middle of a war with Pakistan (S...

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In the first place what AAMs does the terrorist state of Pakistan operate?All photos I have seen show only some version or other of the Sidewinder. What's all this about Magic and Super-530?A Jaguar, flying at 200-400 feet on a strike mission for a single pass attack and a quick getaway at dus...

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An RCL is essentially a Bazooka - tube with both ends open. I shall post a 1965 picture of a jeep mounted RCL on this thread if it lasts much longer.The great part about an RCL is that whe it is fired people need to stay away from both the front and back ends http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/ubb/smi...

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Thanks for the information dsandhu. I shall reset and reprogram my errant neurons.

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Speaking of antitank weapons used in 1965 and 1971, a few points seem to have stuck in my mind. One is about "weak points" on the tank - and one definite weak point is the tracks. Tanks were sought to be disabled by hitting the track at close range - and that would stop them.The only real antitan...

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"Grenades cannot destroy tanks or any other armoured vehicle"This is right, bajwa, but I think a grenade lobbed into an open hatch is good for converting the humans inside into ribbons http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/ubb/smile.gif [This message has been edited by shiv (edited 02-09-1999).]

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Narayanan - having entered a double digit age 2 days after the 1965 war ended I can rightly claim to remember vastly more than you.Yes there were RCL guns mounted on jeeps in 1965 - I have a picture of one in a post conflict souvenir released at that time. But I do remember that Hav. Abdul Hamid ...

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In addition, a single burning tank or truck would then have made a nice beacon to light up more targets.

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Atul, I haven't seen the movie, but I'll try to answer some of the stuff1) Because of Indian anti tank mines, the Paki tanks couldn't move forward. That is fine. Pakis thought there could be a large Indian force( may be because of Indian firepower or the shouts from Indian side), so they decided ...

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Actually the version I heard from my cousin after the war was even more romantic regarding the army's role. There were fewer than 100 men (15 men is what I remember my cousin as saying) and they only had one recoilless rifle and some small arms. But they had loud hailers and what they gave the Pakis...

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Incidentally narayanan, this hitting the ground and then flying off business has actually ocurred.A cousin of mine (Flt.Lt. KS Suresh in 1971) was one of the 11 pilots involved in the Longewala action. During one sortie he says he was firing off rockets at a tank and he says there was an almighty...

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His name is Kuldip Singh Chandpuri.Go to the B-R main page and look for the section on conflicts - and you will find all the information you can get about Longewala under the 1971 war sectionPS - the the url is <A HREF="http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/History/1971War/Longewala.html" TARGE...

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Hi again ramana.ramana is definitely the only B-R member who has tarvelled thru India during the Kargil conflict and his observations are interesting. It's almost as though this country needed a conflict to focus its attention.Unlike 1971 there are now a lot of people with disposable incomes -...

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I think ramen_das made an important point about IW. A large part is surveillance - just listening, classifying, fingerprinting, recording, trying to decode and analyse so that one has a better idea of what the enemy is up to and what he might want to do. Since Dorniers are made in India under lic...

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up and thanks for the info.

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vram - it may be a question of semantics.Ultimately one has to destroy the enemy's resources. The artillery were anyway hitting the men on the peaks but were unable to target the supply depots and stores.Only the air force was able to do this and all accounts appearing now seem to suggest that...

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"Ved: What about the stories about Maruts and Ajeets being used? I heard that HAL had fitted a sizable number with flare dispensers."What stories Shirish?We have some older aircraft whose exhaust IR signatures are bigger and brighter than any flare.IR suppression is one thing people are...

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