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by shiv
20 Nov 1999 08:08
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: PA Corps Structure and Commanders
Replies: 49
Views: 27744

Re: PA Corps Structure and Commanders

Sunil, Quincy, Badar - could I ask you people to please maintain individual copies of this thread - a lot of work has gone in and it looks archivable - and I wouldn't want it to get "lost" accidentally.
by shiv
17 Nov 1999 07:34
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Lt. Gen. Harbaksh Singh cremated
Replies: 13
Views: 10318

Re: Lt. Gen. Harbaksh Singh cremated

It may be worth keeping copies of this thread. It will surely need to go into some sort of archive eventually - at least the info about the general.
by shiv
14 Nov 1999 15:10
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Barrels of artillery guns
Replies: 14
Views: 8627

Re: Barrels of artillery guns

Vinodji and Prakash - i think Vinodji's message was a joke related to another thread.<P>However, to avoid misunderstanding, I have deleted both your messages.<P>Regarding the "good pic" - i'ts from the B-R Kargil picture collection.
by shiv
14 Nov 1999 07:47
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Barrels of artillery guns
Replies: 14
Views: 8627

Re: Barrels of artillery guns

Incidentally, similar flash suppressors can be seen on some rifles - eg the Ishapore 7.62. Can't recall if the INSAS has this - it probably does.
by shiv
14 Nov 1999 07:40
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Barrels of artillery guns
Replies: 14
Views: 8627

Re: Barrels of artillery guns

Related to Sukumar's explanation<P> Image
by shiv
14 Nov 1999 07:28
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Barrels of artillery guns
Replies: 14
Views: 8627

Re: Barrels of artillery guns

I think they're flash suppressors.<P>- aha just saw Sukumar's note - he's probably right.<P>The long barrel bit is interesting. I remember reading about the ideal propellant for any projectile - it should not be a rapid explosive like a warhead, but should burn relatively slowly so that the shell is...
by shiv
11 Nov 1999 18:14
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: What is a fusion boosted fission trigger
Replies: 8
Views: 4401

Re: What is a fusion boosted fission trigger

Vishi<P>This has been discussed time and again here<P>The two main reasons are:<BR>1) Proximity of villages preventing a higher yield device being tested - even so house walls cracked<P>2)India's proposed nuclear force does not envisage city-busting megaton nukes
by shiv
11 Nov 1999 11:58
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: What is a fusion boosted fission trigger
Replies: 8
Views: 4401

Re: What is a fusion boosted fission trigger

Here is the news item from today's deccan Herald<P> <A HREF="http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/nov11/natbits.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/nov11/natbits.htm</A> <P>Data confirms Pokhran yield at 50 kt <P> NEW DELHI, Nov 10 (PTI)<P>Post-shot radioactivity measurem...
by shiv
28 Oct 1999 11:33
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Pak Military's role in society - Repost
Replies: 8
Views: 6125

Re: Pak Military's role in society - Repost

Bajirao, I have exchanged a few emails with this person and I asked him if the name Armugham implied a South Indian ancestry. He said no, and said that the name had some Arabic root - I cannot remember the details.
by shiv
25 Oct 1999 07:28
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Army's Light Machine Guns
Replies: 17
Views: 10579

Re: Indian Army's Light Machine Guns

Somehow this thread seems to be propagating a possible myth that "chain fed" LMGs are "the best"<P>In the absence of any expert comments on this issue I would question the assumption. <P>What is an LMG? What parameters define an LMG?<P>What sub-types do LMGs fall into?<P>What are the models availabl...
by shiv
22 Oct 1999 07:44
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Army's Light Machine Guns
Replies: 17
Views: 10579

Re: Indian Army's Light Machine Guns

You may be wrong on both counts Ananth<BR>There is an article on the INSAS series in the B-R monitor, and a long discussion archives under the military/tech archives.<P>You will get a lot more info from there - but do state your reasons for making this comparison between the "outdated" (how and why?...
by shiv
11 Oct 1999 07:18
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Yield of Pokhran II ?
Replies: 37
Views: 11594

Re: Yield of Pokhran II ?

This sounds like another Paki question<P>This topic has been discussed to death - and unfortunately for hopeful Pakistanis and others - Pokhran II did work as stated and unlike the duds in Chagai - so there is no need to hope that the Pokhran series may not have worked.<P>In any case the scientific ...
by shiv
10 Oct 1999 07:52
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Short Note on Iron Bombs
Replies: 1
Views: 3504

Re: Short Note on Iron Bombs

Great links and info here.<P>A short read through the links will reveal why iron bombs are still important and "concrete bombs" discussed in another thread can only have two possible roles - i.e. validating pinpoint accuracy of smart munition guidance and possibly a very very small role in bunker bu...
by shiv
07 Oct 1999 15:12
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Question on 1971 war and Mumbai blackout
Replies: 18
Views: 12895

Re: Question on 1971 war and Mumbai blackout

Sachin - you can archive it yourself after deleting this message and yours above.<P>Choose the archive option below when you feel enough replies have come in.
by shiv
06 Oct 1999 11:27
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Question on 1971 war and Mumbai blackout
Replies: 18
Views: 12895

Re: Question on 1971 war and Mumbai blackout

At midnight on Dec 3rd 1971 as Indy Gandhi finished her address to the nation, MiG 21s from Lohegaon took off and roared right over where we lived in Poona flying towards Bombay.<P><BR>We later heard that it was a false alarm, though a couple of AA batteries are said to have opened up.<P>A memorable...
by shiv
05 Oct 1999 08:07
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Ghauri II -- Liquid Fuelled -- Analysis
Replies: 11
Views: 7053

Re: Ghauri II -- Liquid Fuelled -- Analysis

The reddish tint to the smoke in the 2nd photo suggests the Nitric acid containing liquid fuel. Any comments Sukumar/Salman/anyone?<P>The following is an interesting statement from an informed person<BR><B>Ballistic missiles can use solid or liquid fuel. They are capable of carrying payloads, includ...
by shiv
02 Oct 1999 16:33
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Strategic Affairs - II
Replies: 27
Views: 12448

Re: Strategic Affairs - II

OCRed from the Hindu<P>DEFENCE STRATEGY MUST LOOK BEYOND PRESENT THREATS - PANT (HINDU 2 OCT 1999)<P>India's economic policy should further its defence and foreign ~ policy interests and vice-versa while the country's defence strategy must look beyond present threats and capabilities, the planning C...
by shiv
25 Sep 1999 07:28
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: What is Thrust Vectoring?
Replies: 7
Views: 4199

Re: What is Thrust Vectoring?

Nikhil<P>It was noticed as early as in the 1965 conflict that planes that do not have swept back wings perform more predictably in the rarified atmosphere at 18000 + feet. If you play with paper or other toy aeroplanes (whose wings basically behave like those of any aeroplane) a broader striaghter w...
by shiv
25 Sep 1999 06:44
Forum: The Kargil Archive
Topic: Why didn't we try Harriers in Kargil mountains?
Replies: 42
Views: 30152

Re: Why didn't we try Harriers in Kargil mountains?

Philip?<P>Wakey wakey! Where are you?
by shiv
24 Sep 1999 16:46
Forum: The Kargil Archive
Topic: Why didn't we try Harriers in Kargil mountains?
Replies: 42
Views: 30152

Re: Why didn't we try Harriers in Kargil mountains?

You're not Philip Fowler in disguise are you? If not, where the hell are you Philip?<P>Philip has been saying this ever since the Kargil crisis began.
by shiv
14 Sep 1999 06:38
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India planning another nuclear test: Shamshad
Replies: 40
Views: 16178

Re: India planning another nuclear test: Shamshad

If you look at the issue with the amount of information we forum members have - it would seem that no number of tests is sufficient. And after that no amount of nuke delivery system testing will be adequate. Someone will always want more.<P><BR>Perhaps there is an easy way out - ironically suggested...
by shiv
12 Sep 1999 18:24
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India planning another nuclear test: Shamshad
Replies: 40
Views: 16178

Re: India planning another nuclear test: Shamshad

No, India should not test for the following reasons<P>1) A test now would remove all support we have for any issues. It would embarrass the French, Israelis and the Russkies who are quite pally with us nowadays.<P>2) It would mean that all the statement made over that past year and more about having...
by shiv
12 Sep 1999 14:59
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India planning another nuclear test: Shamshad
Replies: 40
Views: 16178

Re: India planning another nuclear test: Shamshad

The Pukistanis are talking crap as usual.<P>
by shiv
11 Sep 1999 07:36
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Harrier vs Mirage V/III
Replies: 22
Views: 11345

Re: Harrier vs Mirage V/III

Folks, it's not just the equipment - but how its used - and this statemant has been made on this forum repeatedly without much effect.<P>You cannot compare two hardware items without a whole host of other factors.<P>Just to remind you:<P>34 years ago India was in the middle of a war with Pakistan (S...
by shiv
09 Sep 1999 07:07
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Harrier vs Mirage V/III
Replies: 22
Views: 11345

Re: Harrier vs Mirage V/III

In the first place what AAMs does the terrorist state of Pakistan operate?<P>All photos I have seen show only some version or other of the Sidewinder. What's all this about Magic and Super-530?<P>A Jaguar, flying at 200-400 feet on a strike mission for a single pass attack and a quick getaway at dus...
by shiv
04 Sep 1999 07:02
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Battle of Longewala
Replies: 53
Views: 23880

Re: Battle of Longewala

An RCL is essentially a Bazooka - tube with both ends open. I shall post a 1965 picture of a jeep mounted RCL on this thread if it lasts much longer.<P>The great part about an RCL is that whe it is fired people need to stay away from both the front and back ends http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/ubb/smi...
by shiv
03 Sep 1999 21:39
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Battle of Longewala
Replies: 53
Views: 23880

Re: Battle of Longewala

Thanks for the information dsandhu. I shall reset and reprogram my errant neurons.
by shiv
03 Sep 1999 07:07
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Battle of Longewala
Replies: 53
Views: 23880

Re: Battle of Longewala

Speaking of antitank weapons used in 1965 and 1971, a few points seem to have stuck in my mind. One is about "weak points" on the tank - and one definite weak point is the tracks. Tanks were sought to be disabled by hitting the track at close range - and that would stop them.<P>The only real antitan...
by shiv
02 Sep 1999 13:28
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Battle of Longewala
Replies: 53
Views: 23880

Re: Battle of Longewala

"Grenades cannot destroy tanks or any other armoured vehicle"<P>This is right, bajwa, but I think a grenade lobbed into an open hatch is good for converting the humans inside into ribbons http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/ubb/smile.gif <p>[This message has been edited by shiv (edited 02-09-1999).]
by shiv
02 Sep 1999 07:34
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Battle of Longewala
Replies: 53
Views: 23880

Re: Battle of Longewala

Narayanan - having entered a double digit age 2 days after the 1965 war ended I can rightly claim to remember vastly more than you.<P>Yes there were RCL guns mounted on jeeps in 1965 - I have a picture of one in a post conflict souvenir released at that time. But I do remember that Hav. Abdul Hamid ...
by shiv
31 Aug 1999 18:04
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Battle of Longewala
Replies: 53
Views: 23880

Re: Battle of Longewala

In addition, a single burning tank or truck would then have made a nice beacon to light up more targets.
by shiv
31 Aug 1999 14:19
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Battle of Longewala
Replies: 53
Views: 23880

Re: Battle of Longewala

Atul, I haven't seen the movie, but I'll try to answer some of the stuff<P>1) Because of Indian anti tank mines, the Paki tanks couldn't move forward. That is fine. Pakis thought there could be a large Indian force( may be because of Indian firepower or the shouts from Indian side), so they decided ...
by shiv
31 Aug 1999 07:51
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Battle of Longewala
Replies: 53
Views: 23880

Re: Battle of Longewala

Actually the version I heard from my cousin after the war was even more romantic regarding the army's role. There were fewer than 100 men (15 men is what I remember my cousin as saying) and they only had one recoilless rifle and some small arms. But they had loud hailers and what they gave the Pakis...
by shiv
31 Aug 1999 07:10
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Battle of Longewala
Replies: 53
Views: 23880

Re: Battle of Longewala

Incidentally narayanan, this hitting the ground and then flying off business has actually ocurred.<P>A cousin of mine (Flt.Lt. KS Suresh in 1971) was one of the 11 pilots involved in the Longewala action. During one sortie he says he was firing off rockets at a tank and he says there was an almighty...
by shiv
31 Aug 1999 06:54
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Battle of Longewala
Replies: 53
Views: 23880

Re: Battle of Longewala

His name is Kuldip Singh Chandpuri.<P>Go to the B-R main page and look for the section on conflicts - and you will find all the information you can get about Longewala under the 1971 war section<P>PS - the the url is<P> <A HREF="http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/History/1971War/Longewala.html" TARGE...
by shiv
18 Aug 1999 15:06
Forum: The Kargil Archive
Topic: Kargil Impressions - Trip Report
Replies: 9
Views: 9899

Re: Kargil Impressions - Trip Report

Hi again ramana.<P>ramana is definitely the only B-R member who has tarvelled thru India during the Kargil conflict and his observations are interesting. It's almost as though this country needed a conflict to focus its attention.<P>Unlike 1971 there are now a lot of people with disposable incomes -...
by shiv
17 Aug 1999 06:52
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Navy's IW Squadron
Replies: 7
Views: 4354

Re: Indian Navy's IW Squadron

I think ramen_das made an important point about IW. A large part is surveillance - just listening, classifying, fingerprinting, recording, trying to decode and analyse so that one has a better idea of what the enemy is up to and what he might want to do. <P>Since Dorniers are made in India under lic...
by shiv
15 Aug 1999 13:52
Forum: The Kargil Archive
Topic: IAF Scores a Kill - the actual story!!!
Replies: 14
Views: 15386

Re: IAF Scores a Kill - the actual story!!!

up and thanks for the info.
by shiv
24 Jul 1999 08:41
Forum: The Kargil Archive
Topic: Understanding Air Operations in Kargil
Replies: 23
Views: 16744

Re: Understanding Air Operations in Kargil

vram - it may be a question of semantics.<P>Ultimately one has to destroy the enemy's resources. The artillery were anyway hitting the men on the peaks but were unable to target the supply depots and stores.<P>Only the air force was able to do this and all accounts appearing now seem to suggest that...
by shiv
24 Jul 1999 06:34
Forum: The Kargil Archive
Topic: Understanding Air Operations in Kargil
Replies: 23
Views: 16744

Re: Understanding Air Operations in Kargil

"Ved: What about the stories about Maruts and Ajeets being used? I heard that HAL had fitted a<BR> sizable number with flare dispensers."<P>What stories Shirish?<P>We have some older aircraft whose exhaust IR signatures are bigger and brighter than any flare.<P>IR suppression is one thing people are...

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