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by hanumadu
13 Jun 2012 18:34
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 305713

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

RajeshA wrote:hanumadu ji,

Max Muller's date for Aryan Invasion into India is 1500 BC.


Rajesh ji, no ji for me please. :)
by hanumadu
13 Jun 2012 18:29
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 305713

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Manish ji, It wasn't your first post, you were replying to Bji's comment, nevertheless you mentioned that Hinduism being a natural religion tends to forget it's Gods: The armada of charioteers and mounted riders is a myth. Theology is not a static characteristic of a culture, and esp. not 'natural'...
by hanumadu
13 Jun 2012 18:26
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 305713

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

At the turn of 2nd millenium BC , the first speakers of a language which is a branch of indo-european family entered Indian subcontinent. The language now called 'Vedic Sanskrit' is developed in India, the first snapshot we see of a their language is the ṛgveda. ManishH, Probably you mean 3rd mille...
by hanumadu
13 Jun 2012 14:01
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 305713

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

If Indo Aryans quickly demoted Indra after Rigveda, how come he remained the prime god for thousands of years after they left their home land? As for your natural religions evolving, there is enought time from steppe land to Rigveda for Indra to become a lesser god? Again how come the other cultures...
by hanumadu
12 Jun 2012 10:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 305713

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

This is a comedown. I thought thats what the AIT/AMT supporters claim. You have a pre-conceived notion that AIT says RgVeda was composed outside India. Whereas reality is that no one has claimed so. When the real position is spoken out, it sounds like a 'comedown'. OK. Where was it composed then ac...
by hanumadu
12 Jun 2012 06:20
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 305713

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Either I used unclear language or you have misunderstood the context. What I meant to say is that there is no remains of domesticated horse found in India at the time where OIT claims it (~5000 BC by conservative estimates). The earliest proof of domesticated horse in India is Surkotada at 2100 - 1...
by hanumadu
12 Jun 2012 05:49
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 305713

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

RgVeda can never be transported anywhere except the greater Indus region. No one has ever claimed the authorship of RgVeda happened anywhere outside the Indian subcontinent. This is a comedown. I thought thats what the AIT/AMT supporters claim. So what exactly is from outside India about RigVeda? J...
by hanumadu
12 Jun 2012 05:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 305713

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Now sacred grass (Dūrvā Grass - Cynodon dactylon) matches 100 times.... Doesn't this grass best grow between 30° south and 30° north latitude? Images for Steppe Grass If you look images for steppe grass, they show longer grass than the Durva Grass but not something that creeps along the ground. How...
by hanumadu
09 Jun 2012 05:42
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 305713

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

2. Domesticated horses leave dateable traces in the archaeological record. 3. A domesticated horse allows people to move significant distances in one lifetime . 4. The domesticated horse in steppes was a precursor to greater warfare. The mobility brought more people into conflict. This is evidenced...
by hanumadu
08 Jun 2012 10:30
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 305713

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

0. PIE originates in India, the horse is imported from steppes, the united PIE speaking people give it a name. And every IE branch that moves out of India, moves out only after the horse has been archaeologically attested in India (2100-1700BC). This requires a domesticated horse, since wild horses...
by hanumadu
08 Jun 2012 05:24
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 305713

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

It is not as if there are no horse remains in India. THE HORSE EVIDENCE Meanwhile, in several Harappan sites remains of horses have been found. Even supporters of the AIT have admitted that the horse was known in Mohenjo Daro, near the coast of the Arabian Sea (let alone in more northerly areas), in...
by hanumadu
18 Apr 2012 17:48
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 4358
Views: 172712

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

shiv wrote:
Atri wrote:

oh my that's a nifty bit of modelling!


As per this animation, only part of the third stage is conical. The rest is cylindrical.
by hanumadu
07 Apr 2012 06:20
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Army : News and Discussion
Replies: 1596
Views: 58005

Re: Indian Army : News and Discussion

Who is Lt-Gen Tejinder Singh? Those involved in the making of purchases for security agencies under the Home Ministry or the PMO say that retired Lt-General Tejinder Singh,who has been explicitly accused by the Army of having floated reports that Chief of Army Staff General V K Singh spied on Defen...
by hanumadu
11 Feb 2012 15:56
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 15 Jan 2012
Replies: 2849
Views: 91347

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 15 Jan 201

Hold your horses sir. Let me get one thing clear. Where did you get the idea that I " attribute extreme chanakyanness to GOI in dealing with Pakistan "? If you interpreted that from something I have written kindly point me to the passage so I can explain myself. If you are merely parrotti...
by hanumadu
11 Feb 2012 10:43
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 15 Jan 2012
Replies: 2849
Views: 91347

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 15 Jan 201

No need to get upset saar - but the tendency to look inside oneself when the problem is outside is one of the sillliest things I have heard being repeated ad nauseam. It reflects in the stupid solutions I hear - where the US supplies Pakistan with arms and we ignore that using some stupid rationali...
by hanumadu
27 Nov 2011 12:37
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011
Replies: 2844
Views: 89288

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 201

The how, what and where of Nato supply trucks There are two routes into Afghanistan from Pakistan, one across the Khyber Pass to the Afghan border town of Torkham and on to Kabul. The other goes through Pakistan’s Balochistan province to the border town of Chaman and on to the southern Afghan city,...
by hanumadu
14 Aug 2010 16:34
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown (Jan 26 2010)
Replies: 3870
Views: 327418

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown (Jan 26 201

Massaland seems to be in deflation in a way. Most of the food chains have low cost options on the menu. They haven't reduced the prices on the existing menu, but they added new low priced items. The quantity served is less, but the cost is also less. If you do not have a big appetite they could be a...
by hanumadu
09 Nov 2009 12:09
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: Indian IT Industry
Replies: 3944
Views: 331899

Re: Indian IT Industry

The question is how long before their one-trick ad pony gets threatened by the likes of Mickeysoft? Coz right now only their ads earnings are pretty much bankrolling and cushioning the expenses of the other stuff like YouTube, Android etc. etc. Its the text ads on the search results pages that brin...
by hanumadu
13 Oct 2009 21:27
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Oil and Conflict
Replies: 71
Views: 6143

Re: Oil and Conflict

Ukraine,trying to cosy up to the west and NATO,is trying to get Russia out of the militarily important Crimea,a region historically part of Russia and consists of a pro-Russian population.The lease to Sevastopol runs out in 2017 and Russia is exerting pressure upon Ukraine to extend the lease.Ukrai...
by hanumadu
08 Oct 2009 11:07
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 2936
Views: 720171

Re: Indian Missile Technology Discussion

I am left speechless. A forum that has been the hallmark of Strategic analysis, Patriotism and what not, is loosing some of it's pillars? Nothing personal, all I can say is things have changed a lot since those informative years of missile technology discussions... Gradually I am finding myself res...
by hanumadu
24 Sep 2009 15:00
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Discussion on Indian Epics, Texts, Treatises & Kathas
Replies: 4574
Views: 30660

Re: Dicussion on Indian Epics, Texts, Treatises & Kathas

The below are youtube links to a television program which brilliantly builds up a case for the existence of Indian civilizations going as far back as 10000 yrs. Very enjoyable. Apologies if already posted. 10,000 YEAR OLD METROPOLIS FOUND PART 1 of 5 part 2 of 5 part 3 of 5 part 4 of 5 part 5 of 5
by hanumadu
22 Apr 2009 09:27
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: Indian IT Industry
Replies: 3944
Views: 331899

Re: Indian IT Industry

Earlier IBM was in the only one stop shop for hardware, application servers(java based) and database. It was hard to beat the combination. The software (app server. database) came cheap if you bouth the hardware (AIX/Linux machines). BEA, SUN and Oracle partnered before to compete with IBM, but I gu...
by hanumadu
29 Mar 2009 04:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 202483

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

I too believe in a slow and steady approach. We should not take in pakistan as long as it is islamic. Islamism can be dormant and rear its ugly head even after centuries.

--hanumadu
by hanumadu
10 Jan 2009 12:06
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: Indian IT Industry
Replies: 3944
Views: 331899

Re: Indian IT Industry

One estimate is that Congress is planning to spend 10Crs per Assembly elections and 30Crs per Parliament constituency. Another rumor was that YSR offered 1000crs to TSR. At 300 assembly seats and 45 parliament seats that comes out to Rs 4350 cr. I don't believe any party in India has that kind of m...
by hanumadu
04 Jan 2009 18:22
Forum: Terrorism Archive
Topic: Terror Attacks in Mumbai - IV
Replies: 2097
Views: 184623

Re: Terror Attacks in Mumbai - IV

one contradiction ! he calls for speedy trials for the terrorisdts, but he was party to the decision to hold the (pending) judgement for Afsal Guru hanging in parliment attack case !? Or he is hinting GOI to hang him soon. He revealed the truth after his term as President is over. Afzal Guru's peti...
by hanumadu
03 Jan 2009 05:17
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: A Nation on the March
Replies: 789
Views: 192567

Re: A Nation on the March

Twist in drunk drive tale as cop calls bluff In another case, the traffic police caught a drunk driver twice within an hour on Thursday. Rajan Patel, 46, was first caught at Worli Naka for riding his bike under the influence of alcohol. The police charged him Rs2,000 as fine and also confiscated hi...
by hanumadu
24 Dec 2008 04:28
Forum: Terrorism Archive
Topic: Indian Response to Terrorism
Replies: 2748
Views: 174964

Re: Indian Response to Terrorism

Why did Jaswant Singh personally escort Masood Azhar to Kandhar? Vivek K, Please give JS a break. This has become a huge stick to beat him up. When this question was put to him at one of his talks in the bay area, he said that the bureaucracy decided it was best for him to go in case he has to make...
by hanumadu
23 Dec 2008 10:23
Forum: Terrorism Archive
Topic: Indian Response to Terrorism
Replies: 2748
Views: 174964

Re: Indian Response to Terrorism

beards and civilians are all mixed up. faujis are the only clearly identifiable elements with PN followed by PA being the clear and easy whipping boys. civilians will have to take their chances and move in concert with police to control the beards - stuff them both, civilians are all busy donating ...
by hanumadu
19 Oct 2008 09:21
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: Indian Autos Thread
Replies: 3784
Views: 407619

Re: Indian Autos Thread

^^The talk then was that Coca Cola bought all the bottling companies and Thumbs up had a tough time finding bottlers. He had no choice but to sell his brands to Coke. It was big money at play. Those days, Indian companies were much smaller than now.

--hanumadu
by hanumadu
09 Oct 2008 02:01
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: Indian Autos Thread
Replies: 3784
Views: 407619

Re: Indian Autos Thread

The compensation given by WB to the farmers is said to be Rs 10 lakh per acre whereas that given by Gujarat is market price(which as per a guess is Rs 1.25 crore per acre). The undercompensation is bound to make farmers unhappy not only in Bengal but anywhere. Latest example is Maharashtra which is...
by hanumadu
08 Oct 2008 07:39
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: Indian Autos Thread
Replies: 3784
Views: 407619

Re: Indian Autos Thread

With SEZs in other states also experiencing problems, Gujarat seems to be the only safe bet. Farmers in AP have been agitating too for more compensation. That might have weighed on Tata's mind when choosing Gujarat. I hope this will be a lesson to other states, that they will have to keep up with Gu...
by hanumadu
28 Jul 2008 08:04
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: Indian Roads Thread
Replies: 2950
Views: 289833

Re: Indian Roads Thread

My friend got a ticket for jumping the red signal in hyderabad. It was mailed to him along with a picture of him crossing the lines.
by hanumadu
23 Jul 2008 10:25
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Understanding the Great Game and role of India & Asian stability
Replies: 997
Views: 82140

Re: Understanding the Great Game and role of India & Asian stabi

It is amazing that so many Indians still think that it was the British who rid us of Mughal empire, they did not. Sikhs & Marathas had alread destroyed the Mughal empire. In 1760's or so, Marathas had occupied Delhi, later in 1780's approximately Sikhs had defeated the titular Mughal king and e...
by hanumadu
20 Jul 2008 04:18
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuclear issues - News and Discussion 16 july 2008
Replies: 439
Views: 41898

Re: Indian Nuclear issues - News and Discussion 16 july 2008

The trouble is, the only way they coud have got it through is to appeal to everyone to unite the country behind them. They should have rallied the nation on the national security agenda, but they have been apologising themselves silly over the real threat, to our North. So maybe they deserve to go....
by hanumadu
14 Jul 2008 10:47
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry
Replies: 5395
Views: 508467

Re: A Nation on the March

Apologies if posted earlier

Apparently an Indian, Somdev Dev Varma is twice NCAA tennis champion in the USA.
He was recruited by the University of Virginia coach for his team from Chennai.

You tube Video

Best athlete in UVA history?

More tennis news
by hanumadu
17 Jun 2008 03:53
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Economy: News and Discussion (June 8 2008)
Replies: 2768
Views: 359883

Re: Indian Economy: News and Discussion (June 8 2008)

Thanks Suraj for your answers. But the capital expenditure led growth cannot be expected to continue for a long time. Sooner or later, shouldn't consumer spending increase so that the next wave of capital investment occurs? And for that to happens, if I understand correctly, lower interest rates and...
by hanumadu
14 Jun 2008 06:34
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Economy: News and Discussion (June 8 2008)
Replies: 2768
Views: 359883

Re: Indian Economy: News and Discussion (June 8 2008)

I mentioned earlier that a number of capacity augmentation projects were coming onstream over 2008-09. Suraj, What are the sectors/goods facing the supply side constraints. You say that once the suppy side constraints are eased, inflation should come down and so should interest rates. But Ratan Tat...
by hanumadu
13 Jun 2008 06:16
Forum: Technology & Economic Forum
Topic: Oil & Natural Gas: News & Discussion
Replies: 1503
Views: 227491

Re: Oil & Natural Gas: News & Discussion

Shouldn't they be comparing the prices of Reliance natural gas with the international price of natural gas and not that of oil? Natural gas is selling at 10-12$ in the international market. So how is 4.2 an 80% discount to 12? The author is also wrong in assuming we will be importing as much less oi...

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