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by Rakesh
04 Apr 2007 09:25
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 55800

I am talking about people in India. For the sake of communal harmony, giving up beef is not that much to ask. Is it? For the sake of communal harmony, it is best that we allow people to practise their dietary habits. As long as no one forces beef (or any other food) down the throats of people, ther...
by Rakesh
04 Apr 2007 09:18
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 55800

The US system works well today becuase they kept working at it till the 1960's. It is also a system borne out of the unique experiences of the people belonging, largley to the christian faith and of european descent. India OTOH neither shares this faith or these experiences. India's only experience...
by Rakesh
02 Apr 2007 06:45
Forum: News Folders Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles - News Folder - April 2007
Replies: 4
Views: 4822

Indian Missiles - News Folder - April 2007

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by Rakesh
02 Apr 2007 06:44
Forum: News Folders Archive
Topic: Indian Air Force - News Folder - April 2007
Replies: 9
Views: 6509

Indian Air Force - News Folder - April 2007

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by Rakesh
02 Apr 2007 06:43
Forum: News Folders Archive
Topic: Indian Army - News Folder - April 2007
Replies: 14
Views: 8008

Indian Army - News Folder - April 2007

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by Rakesh
02 Apr 2007 06:39
Forum: News Folders Archive
Topic: Indian Navy - News Folder - April 2007
Replies: 13
Views: 8883

Indian Navy - News Folder - April 2007

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by Rakesh
02 Apr 2007 06:38
Forum: News Folders Archive
Topic: Indian Space - News Folder - April 2007
Replies: 10
Views: 6573

Indian Space - News Folder - April 2007

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by Rakesh
30 Mar 2007 19:29
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 6
Replies: 323
Views: 53218

Now, you (and your scripture) claims "God" created this universe. ( ie "God" was the INSTRUMENTAL cause ). But what about the MATERIAL cause? In other words, there was NOTHING other than "God" until the universe was created. Yes, there was nothing i.e. no MATERIAL caus...
by Rakesh
30 Mar 2007 18:59
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 6
Replies: 323
Views: 53218

[quote="Pulikeshi"]Brahman, at least in my understanding, is a concept beyond any “creatorâ€
by Rakesh
30 Mar 2007 18:47
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 6
Replies: 323
Views: 53218

Oh common! $450 shoes is for the poor/down trodden. The real wealthy should have $2500 ones and no two same for the same day. And definitely different for every new day. It is not extortion, if it is, it would not have been sold out! This choos are just priced right! Okay the Choos are priced just ...
by Rakesh
30 Mar 2007 18:42
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 6
Replies: 323
Views: 53218

Well, if religion is crap, then I insist that all religions are equally crap, and no religion should be consider more crappy than another :mrgreen: Well said. So going by what Richard Dawkins said, are you willing to abandon your religion and is everyone on this forum willing to do the same? Throw ...
by Rakesh
30 Mar 2007 11:37
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 6
Replies: 323
Views: 53218

With all due respects - you are absolutely wrong. Look at the choos [shoes] from Jimmy Choos. Because of the shoemaker which lives in every shoe that makes it priceless! Just like some people see divinity in hair, blood and bones. Jimmy Choo So can Jimmy Choo shoes laugh, cry, be sad, get angry jus...
by Rakesh
30 Mar 2007 10:58
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 6
Replies: 323
Views: 53218

Like I said many times before, if you feel my proofs are "irrational", I would love to see a refutation LOGICALLY. I don't see the logical reasoning behind God being present within urine, excreta, a bag of chips, a monitor, a pen, a car or a human being. If God was present within everythi...
by Rakesh
30 Mar 2007 09:24
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 6
Replies: 323
Views: 53218

christian god's character is very interesting. Christian god's sons including Satan and christian god have similar tastes. Example :-- job 1.6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...
by Rakesh
28 Mar 2007 06:14
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 5
Replies: 321
Views: 54669

If you didn't know this before, the story of flood is a rehash of older middle eastern stories of flood. Try Atrahasis, or Gilgamesh or Ziusudra to see the real story. My real story is there in the Bible. That is all I need to believe. As I said in my previous post, the only thing christian god car...
by Rakesh
28 Mar 2007 05:51
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 5
Replies: 321
Views: 54669

Rakesh, If I understand right, you main line of argument is that according to christianity all humans are sinners and it is okay for Christian god to kill humans who have sinned. All humans are sinners - yes. God does not kill them. They are judged and are sent to hell to face eternal tormentation....
by Rakesh
28 Mar 2007 05:34
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 5
Replies: 321
Views: 54669

Not very hard, if you are willing to apply logic, rather than cling fast to faith blindly. Thanks for the offer, but I will keep my faith in Jesus Christ :) How can there be an extra-cosmic entity in the face of "ex nihilo nihil fit"? So, one part of the Christian Trinity is a product of ...
by Rakesh
27 Mar 2007 02:24
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

Since "God" in Hinduism is immanent, "God" is bound by these rules as well. It's simply a matter of reason/logic. I can't undertand that logic. But very interesting :) I have learned more about Hinduism today from you and few others here, than in all my lifetime. Thanks. It is w...
by Rakesh
27 Mar 2007 01:40
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

I understand the context in Noah's myth. The men at the time were evil, did bad things etc. I am not saying anything about killing bad people, I am talking about children. Are they evil, too? Your question needs to answered with Biblical verses and thus the following. Please note, I quote only from...
by Rakesh
26 Mar 2007 23:17
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

Absolutely. That is all that i was asking for. There is no need to make a counter accusation when a simple explanation says exactly this. The original accusation was obviously an egregious one - but the error was compounded by not defending it, or "defending it" with an unrelated counter ...
by Rakesh
26 Mar 2007 23:17
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

Regarding the situation of Noah, I am not that well versed to start speaking on behalf of christianity. So, it would help if others who do, try to explain it. I am sure over thousands of years people have come up with contextual explanations for them. What exactly about the Noah story do you have q...
by Rakesh
26 Mar 2007 23:00
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

I understand the context. In case you missed the obvious. I was questioning your acceptance that Adam and Eve walked on earth and are responsible for the whole population. But you seem to laugh at the possibility that 50,000 follks walking on earth (or just any figure) seemed illogical. Point was t...
by Rakesh
26 Mar 2007 22:38
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

Once again, Rakesh, there is a mix-up. What exactly do you mean by "sovereignty of God" in the context of Hinduism? Unlike the Judeo-Christian belief, there is no extra-cosmic entity called "God" in Hinduism. "God" is Hinduism is necessarily immanent. The "transce...
by Rakesh
26 Mar 2007 21:30
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

Why is it convinient to assume a man and a woman walked on earth and not 50,000's of them? I mean what's the logic? Did you really put Bible aside in this example? :) If two can be dropped from someplace why not 50,000? Absolutely I put the Bible aside, because no where in the creation story does i...
by Rakesh
26 Mar 2007 21:24
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

Kumar, Vishy, Shiv: It is great to see that you are clearing the misconceptions about the questions that Joype posed, as from your answers it is clear that the story of Arjun, Krisha et al have been taken out of context and they are not actually mass murderers as Joype may have suggested. In the sam...
by Rakesh
26 Mar 2007 21:18
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

Not if you are a monist or even a dualist in the Hindu religion. The Hindu Gods have to act within the rules of their creation, preservation or determined destruction – only to be recreated again. Intervention is possible, but if God (lets say Vishnu) decides to take out Pulikeshi, he better have...
by Rakesh
26 Mar 2007 09:41
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

There is no way to defeat xtianity without taking aim at the OT. The whole purpose of this discussion is to defeat Evanjehadism and not defeat Christianity. They are not one and the same. It is, however, strange that Jewish historians who lived and wrote during the same period or a little later, fa...
by Rakesh
26 Mar 2007 09:35
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

Assuming bible is true, Christian god is the biggest mass murderer. He kills off everyone except Noah's family in the flood. Hmm... talk about a real terrorist. I guess he saves Noah's family because they follow him as the real god. I guess it is halal for christian god to kill innocents without ev...
by Rakesh
26 Mar 2007 09:17
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

Hey Rakesh, did you get my mail? It's been a while and you havn't replied to my questions. I sent you a reply to your email. Did you not get that? Not all of us believe in rebirth, and it is not even essential to believe in it as a Hindu. Now this is news to me and something I did not know. Thanks.
by Rakesh
25 Mar 2007 13:31
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

Kumar, I apologise for not replying earlier. Been really busy. Just as a curiosity, Rakesh are your views your personal views or are they shared by the orthodox church that you belong to? They are my views. The above institution that you refer to has its share of evils and is ridden with curroption ...
by Rakesh
23 Mar 2007 19:40
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

The hindu is already aware of the danger of islam, but teh fact that the followers of EJ-Christianism do not sport beards and AK-47s and suicide belts does not mean that they are any less dangerous as events unleashed by the success of the christianization of your northeast has already shown. I am ...
by Rakesh
23 Mar 2007 11:03
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 4
Replies: 321
Views: 67032

I was talking about homophobia which you seem to have mistaken for homosexuality - the exact opposite. Yikes! I saw the term homophobia and I overlooked it! My bad. Bible is homophobic - that means it expressly condemns homosexuality and even goes so far as to mandate killing of homosexuals. This i...
by Rakesh
22 Mar 2007 23:12
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 3
Replies: 338
Views: 55769

Abhijit wrote:Did Hitler explicitly abdicate Christianity ? Did he never go to Church?
http://nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm


You do realise that Hitler twisted the words of the Bible to suit his own agenda? In that senese, he ain't no different than the Evanjehadist.
by Rakesh
22 Mar 2007 14:31
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 3
Replies: 338
Views: 55769

Leviticus 20:13 "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." There are many other examples of bible's distaste with homosexuality. Now in the current world, we don't care ...
by Rakesh
22 Mar 2007 14:19
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 3
Replies: 338
Views: 55769

Try saying that to an Orthodox Christian. Guys will go ballistic. I don't know if any of you have been to an Orthodox Church. Let me tell you the number of pictures in there and the kissing of icons, the profusion of incense, spraying of water, etc. is strongly reminiscent of Yindoo traditions... o...
by Rakesh
22 Mar 2007 13:00
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 3
Replies: 338
Views: 55769

Rakesh, I was asking about 101 myth book because it came highly recommended from someone who understand and practices Christianity. We had same semantic talk about being in science and having faith. The book actually try to decipher the Divine nature of Bible by pointing that the stories in Bible a...
by Rakesh
22 Mar 2007 11:51
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread 3
Replies: 338
Views: 55769

I have problems with the Christian belief system too. Because those beliefs do not seem consistent nor logical. I mean I can understand 'faith' being beyond logic but I would expect 'faith' to be consistent - logically - with itself. On one hand Rakesh claims a complete faith in Biblical inerrancy ...

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