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by Rakesh
24 Aug 2016 02:35
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 22 April 2015
Replies: 4211
Views: 286864

Re: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 22 April 2015

A BIG thanks to The Australian for posting it :roll:

You need subscription. Paks are beggars, so they will run to China to finance the subscription.
by Rakesh
24 Aug 2016 01:50
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 22 April 2015
Replies: 4211
Views: 286864

Re: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 22 April 2015

Yeah, but what do we do with the six submarines that are in various stages of completion?
by Rakesh
24 Aug 2016 01:39
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 22 April 2015
Replies: 4211
Views: 286864

Re: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 22 April 2015

The hits just keep on coming for the submarine arm :(
by Rakesh
11 Aug 2015 02:47
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 2892
Views: 334615

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

I got caught up in the emotion of things and I let it get the better of me. I was wrong, you guys were right. My apologies for derailing this thread.
by Rakesh
09 Aug 2015 09:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 2892
Views: 334615

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Vishnu Som makes a report and stands by it. I read the report by Vishnu and it is a good one. This sounds so much like my grandmother who used to warn us when we were kids if she found us laughing by telling us that excessive laughter inevitably leads to tears in due course. You know, your grandmot...
by Rakesh
09 Aug 2015 09:17
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 2892
Views: 334615

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Avarachan: Air Chief Marshal Dalton did say that and it speaks very poorly of his professionalism. However never get into a mud fight with a pig, you will be just as dirty and the pig will actually enjoy it. SaiK put it best, "Exercises are done for constructive corrections of SOPS and OPS.&quo...
by Rakesh
09 Aug 2015 05:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 2892
Views: 334615

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Thanks SaiK. As usual, complete hogwash from you Shreeman. And, I am still waiting for your "detailed" reply in the Rafale thread. They kept a score. Why? Is the score something that the proponents of IAF here invent? No. The methodology? No. The counting? No. Anything that can be changed ...
by Rakesh
09 Aug 2015 01:31
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 2892
Views: 334615

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

The statements by other airforces, leaked videos et al were psuedo official at least, if not official. There is nothing wrong with a 56 inch chest when data has been respectfully provided, and is favorable. Not sure why the sulking and crying over past lost egg-sir-sizes was any different or more a...
by Rakesh
09 Aug 2015 01:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 2892
Views: 334615

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Yes yes. I am sure the IAF will be proud of the "most well behaved contingent" silver it brought back. So now there were medals handed out as well :roll: Perhaps next time, you can host a Miss Universe contest and provide a trophy model to the pilot who scores gold. I am sure that will be...
by Rakesh
08 Aug 2015 19:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 2892
Views: 334615

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Let me be frank here. Im tired of Indians being told how to behave, how to follow Dharma, how to be courteous, how to be gracious people. None of such can be expected by Indians from other peoples. ( Remember, the its the other peoples who have a history of lies, deceit, brutal colonization & m...
by Rakesh
08 Aug 2015 03:52
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 2892
Views: 334615

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Hate to be a party crasher, but everyone who attended the exercise learned something valuable. At the end of the day, regardless of the score, both sides have gained a fair bit of knowledge about the aircraft and the men who fly them. That is what these exercises are all about. For the IAF in partic...
by Rakesh
03 Aug 2015 01:34
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 109581

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

Vivek: Before you criticize the Prime Minister or the Defence Minister, I would suggest you determine if the news is really true. I am not saying our elected officials are above criticism, but determine what the facts are first. Secondly, criticize the policies not the individual. Mud slinging will ...
by Rakesh
21 Jul 2015 07:31
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Shreeman: Since you have ignored to answer either question on what you plan to do in the interim on how you plan to make up the gap by the time the Astra enters service and replaces all the foreign stock of missiles in the IAF's kitty and the same for the aircraft (~400 domestic fighters to replace ...
by Rakesh
21 Jul 2015 06:32
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Fanne: Regardless, the MiG-21 was the second choice. I never knew that. I stand corrected. Thanks Ramana and Cosmo_R.
by Rakesh
20 Jul 2015 03:39
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

In the past GOI overruled IAF and bought Mig21, and that has been a great decision. AFAIK, that is incorrect. But If you have a source to prove the above, I will stand corrected. Either cough up the shekels that the French want,capitulate to them,or order more MKIs or MIG-29s,a more realistic and c...
by Rakesh
19 Jul 2015 22:14
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions
Replies: 3980
Views: 116488

Re: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions

Viv S wrote:Actually the original RFI to LM, Saab, MiG and Dassault was sent out in 2001.

Must surely be upon the recommendation of a babu who advised DM George Fernanades that rules must be followed. One vendor competition is anathema to the MoD. Indian jugaad at its best!
by Rakesh
19 Jul 2015 19:26
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

NRao: Am I to assume that sarcasm is lost on you? :) Shreeman: Will reply to your post soon. johneeG: Indeed geo-politicis and geo-economics are the domain of govt. That was clearly evident in PM Modi reducing the Rafale order from 126 to 36 aircraft. Unless the Govt wants to hire "armchair&quo...
by Rakesh
18 Jul 2015 21:38
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

For the rest, short of a war how does a weapon get respected? By its adoption and demonstration. In this, the IAF is horrible. Domestic platforms (untested as you say) bring unlimited demonstration to the table. As with platforms, it is with the astra and similar homemade droppings that I relate he...
by Rakesh
18 Jul 2015 10:07
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Firstly, the IAF noise is not loud enough. Or coherent. If there were 4 squads of LCAs operating at IOC with 10% availability, the clamoring for rayfail may make some sense. But we will neve see that day. Right now, to someone sitting afar, the IAF message is not coming through as coherent. Just as...
by Rakesh
18 Jul 2015 09:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

What jugaad, nothing would be logistically easier to induct than fighters that the IAF has rich experience with. The Shornet is neither cheap nor easily inducted causing an altogether new fighter type from a whimsical vendor. Thank you for that. We can't see the wood for the trees sometimes. This i...
by Rakesh
18 Jul 2015 06:46
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Kakkaji wrote:The IAF argument about falling numbers is fallacious in that you don't build numbers with an ultra-expensive aircraft.

You just hit the nail on the head. It is fallacious. We really do not need the Rafale. Nothing more than a 14 year tamasha. The GoI should walk away from this deal.
by Rakesh
18 Jul 2015 05:24
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

^^^ Admiral Since no one else calls me Admiral here anyone, thank you :mrgreen: , with due respect this kabadiwala (scavanger) approach hits on india-genious products first. Supporting it does not kill the RayfailBan super polarised sunglasses, just the corner chashma dukaan. Even a second hand toy...
by Rakesh
18 Jul 2015 05:06
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

This is what happens when you refuse to entertain Plan B. 54 Jets Set to Be Scrapped, Air Force Looks to Cannibalize on its Squadrons http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/54-jets-set-to-be-scrapped-air-force-looks-to-cannibalize-on-its-squadrons-774920 "We will have to pull out about 50 odd aircrafts...
by Rakesh
18 Jul 2015 04:55
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Yes, Qatar was willing to see her Mirage 2000s to us in the mid-2000s. However we balked at the cost back then, saying they were way too expensive. But now it appears the cost of the Rafale is of little concern, because there is no Plan B :) The only link I can find is below; India again looking at ...
by Rakesh
18 Jul 2015 04:26
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

As per wiki, 15 new build Mirage 2000-5 Mk.2s were ordered in 2000 and the last was delivered in 2007. Also as per wiki, deliveries of the 12 Qatari Mirage 2000-5 started in 1997. That is 27 aircraft and if we get them, we can add to the three squadrons (~50) already in service. While the numbers ma...
by Rakesh
18 Jul 2015 04:13
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Dassault can afford to be arrogant. Until the IAF down selected the Rafale, I never expected to see her flying in another nation's colours. However, Egypt beat us to it. The late 90s and 2000s are filled with missed opportunities for the Rafale. However, today the Rafale no longer carries the monike...
by Rakesh
18 Jul 2015 03:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

johneeG...the model you suggested is not going to work. Defence Ministers and Babus are not aware of what is considered primary, secondary and tertiary needs when it comes to the armed forces. You run the risk of creating RFPs that are ambiguous and opens the door for even more arms dealers and corr...
by Rakesh
17 Jul 2015 21:07
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Arun: I have the same feeling. This offset tamasha is going to sink the Rafale. If that happens, it could be a blessing in disguise for the Tejas. Then again the phoren lobbies are very powerful in India. Is there any offset for 36 which was promised to purchase in Paris?? I was under impression th...
by Rakesh
17 Jul 2015 20:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Arun: I have the same feeling. This offset tamasha is going to sink the Rafale. If that happens, it could be a blessing in disguise for the Tejas. Then again the phoren lobbies are very powerful in India. Chinmayanand: We do not need enemies. We are self imploding. There is an old African proverb. I...
by Rakesh
17 Jul 2015 19:29
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Arun: The problem is the Ministers and Babus have no clue what the IAF wants. They only look at cost. The IAF has sounded the alarm about the low number of squadrons, but apart from requesting shiny new phoren toys (i.e. in the case, the Rafale) they appear to be stubbornly opposed to other avenues....
by Rakesh
17 Jul 2015 06:18
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

Here we go again :roll: Neither side has learned from the previous episode. Someone has to budge.

Indian Rafale talks hit offset snag
http://www.janes.com/article/52553/indian-rafale-talks-hit-offset-snag
by Rakesh
17 Jul 2015 06:16
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

IAF seeks 80 fighters, not 36 :) http://www.telegraphindia.com/1150705/jsp/nation/story_29657.jsp#.Vahcerc4KPk The Indian Air Force has told the government it needs at least 80 aircraft of the capabilities of the Rafale to make up for the shortfall in its fighter jet squadrons.
by Rakesh
17 Jul 2015 05:19
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: International Military Discussion
Replies: 2943
Views: 304886

Re: International Military & Space Discussion

Now that is low...really low...

The RAF's No.3(F) Squadron's ‘anniversary jet’ was among the Typhoons that operated from RAF Northolt.

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by Rakesh
17 Jul 2015 05:14
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 109581

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

Exercise 'Indradhanush': IAF Contingent Leaves for UK http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/Exercise-Indradhanush-IAF-Contingent-Leaves-for-UK/2015/07/15/article2922015.ece A 190-member Indian Air Force contingent, backed by Su-30 fighters, IL-78 tankers, C-17 strategic and C-130J tactical airlift...
by Rakesh
17 Jul 2015 05:07
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

There will be a repeat order of 36 Rafales. If this deal goes through, I can guarantee you that. If an additional 8 attrition reserves are bought, that will be a well rounded 80 aircraft order. Add the 50 Mirage 2000s that are being upgraded to the Dash-9 standard and you have 122 - 130 aircraft. 12...
by Rakesh
17 Jul 2015 03:33
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Replies: 3973
Views: 196778

Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015

The first Egyptian Rafale. From the contract sign of February 16, 2015 to the date this picture was taken (I presume July 15, 2015) has taken 5 months. This aircraft DM101 (and another - DM102) are right off the Rafale production line which were originally meant for the Armée de l'air. The only sign...
by Rakesh
16 Jul 2015 07:49
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pakistan arms sales, ops, doctrine, etc
Replies: 3094
Views: 213325

Re: Pakistan arms sales, ops, doctrine, etc

Zaid Hamid joins ANP http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2015/07/16/features/zaid-hamid-joins-anp/ The charismatic speaker, with a considerable following in Pakistan, was speaking to reporters in a break between being lashed on his back and gluteus maximus. I believe his constipated smile - in the link...
by Rakesh
16 Jul 2015 04:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions
Replies: 3980
Views: 116488

Re: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions

Ramana, that should depend on the load the aircraft is carrying. I suspect combat radius would fluctuate depending on mission parameters, weapon load out and number of fuel tanks carried. Someone correct if I am wrong.

srai: you beat me to it. But well detailed. Thanks.
by Rakesh
16 Jul 2015 04:10
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Transport Aircraft for IAF
Replies: 3636
Views: 272797

Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Viv_S: Saar, you do realise you are beating a dead horse right? I echo Nachiket's statement. Facts, stats and figures have no place here. They are falling on deaf ears. Remember, according to him... Russia is a superpower :eek:

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